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kane · 08-20-2006, 04:32 PM

This is an interesting thread. There are a lot of problems with our prison system and I think some things could be done to help curb the amount of repeat offenders.

First there is the question of legalizing weed. This will only keep a very small number of people out of jail. In almost every case if you get caught with weed you get a ticket. the only time you ever get anything more than a fine and maybe probation is if you have a lot of of it on you and they think you are a dealer. There was a guy near me recently that had a bunch of it growing in a greenhouse. They took it all, wrote him a ticket and that was it. So legalizing weed will do next to nothing to curb this problem

You have to figure that there are basically two choices to stopping repeat offenders. Repeat offenders are the biggest problem. Almost all of the people in prison have been there before. You can either:

1. make is such a horrific experience that they never want to go back and make sentencing even tougher. Instead of three strikes and you get 20 years tell them flat out you get one chance and if you come back we execute you.
or
2. we do something to actually help rehabilitate those that can be. By this I mean people that sold drugs or stole things. People that commited violent crimes like rape probably can't be rehabilitated. What I mean is this: most prisoners get out of jail and they have nothing. They have no skills, no job offers, no money. They move to a halfway house and get a shitty job that pays next to nothing. Also, they are paroled right in the same place the offended so they are surrounded by the same influences. So they get peer pressure and mix that with a shitty job and a poor looking future and they decide to steal/rob/sell drugs because they don't think they have any other option. Maybe they should be allowed to learn a trade while in jail and then when released they are sent somewhere far away from where they committed the crimes. If they stole a bunch of cars in LA, you parole them in Kansas City. If they learn a trade they can get a decent paying job and start fresh and this might discourage some of them from re-offending.

I also think the prisoners should have to work. We should wall up the border, deport all the illegals and make the prisoners do the work that the illegal immigrants were doing. This way they don't just get to sit around and watch TV and work out or whatever all day, they have to put in a 40 hour week just like everyone else. They might think, "well, if I steal this car and get caught I'm going to go back to jail and have to work in the fields for 3 years. Maybe I won't do that."

Something clearly needs to be done because the current system is obviously not working. Maybe my ideas of not it, but all I ever hear from people is "be more strict on crime." and that doesn't seem to be working.

08-20-2006, 04:32 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	This is an interesting thread. There are a lot of problems with our prison system and I think some things could be done to help curb the amount of repeat offenders. First there is the question of legalizing weed. This will only keep a very small number of people out of jail. In almost every case if you get caught with weed you get a ticket. the only time you ever get anything more than a fine and maybe probation is if you have a lot of of it on you and they think you are a dealer. There was a guy near me recently that had a bunch of it growing in a greenhouse. They took it all, wrote him a ticket and that was it. So legalizing weed will do next to nothing to curb this problem You have to figure that there are basically two choices to stopping repeat offenders. Repeat offenders are the biggest problem. Almost all of the people in prison have been there before. You can either: 1. make is such a horrific experience that they never want to go back and make sentencing even tougher. Instead of three strikes and you get 20 years tell them flat out you get one chance and if you come back we execute you. or 2. we do something to actually help rehabilitate those that can be. By this I mean people that sold drugs or stole things. People that commited violent crimes like rape probably can't be rehabilitated. What I mean is this: most prisoners get out of jail and they have nothing. They have no skills, no job offers, no money. They move to a halfway house and get a shitty job that pays next to nothing. Also, they are paroled right in the same place the offended so they are surrounded by the same influences. So they get peer pressure and mix that with a shitty job and a poor looking future and they decide to steal/rob/sell drugs because they don't think they have any other option. Maybe they should be allowed to learn a trade while in jail and then when released they are sent somewhere far away from where they committed the crimes. If they stole a bunch of cars in LA, you parole them in Kansas City. If they learn a trade they can get a decent paying job and start fresh and this might discourage some of them from re-offending. I also think the prisoners should have to work. We should wall up the border, deport all the illegals and make the prisoners do the work that the illegal immigrants were doing. This way they don't just get to sit around and watch TV and work out or whatever all day, they have to put in a 40 hour week just like everyone else. They might think, "well, if I steal this car and get caught I'm going to go back to jail and have to work in the fields for 3 years. Maybe I won't do that." Something clearly needs to be done because the current system is obviously not working. Maybe my ideas of not it, but all I ever hear from people is "be more strict on crime." and that doesn't seem to be working.