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Old 08-14-2006, 02:24 PM  
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Originally Posted by baycouples
I'm simply saying that Hezbulah is a terrorist organization ( since the original post video was claiming that it's not )
Fine - you are entitled to your opinion as to whether Hezbollah is a "terrorist organization" or not. Five nations consider Hezbollah as a terrorist organization while most people on this planet do not.

I don't really care what labels are stuck on any party (that is too simplied and a mechanism used by govts), - and not advocating either for or against Hezbollah or Israel, - but because you think Hezbollah is a terrorist organization does not matter.

Both sides in this conflict can produce 400 reasons why each has a valid claim - and these can be justified.

It is also an extreme simplification to claim conflict can be defined as:

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TERRORISTS: target civilians and innocent people on purpose
MILITARY: never target civillians or innocent people
Each conflict is like a fingerprint - entirely different - and reality in each conflict can change that definition. Your comments about eg the "military" never targets civilians?? On the contrary, in this conflict we have seen many instances of a military targetting civilians. Each day Israeli fighters are targetting as many vehicles on roads as possible and blowing them up. There is no distinction between motorcycles and buses/trucks - that started almost on day one of this conflict. The Lebanese people were instructed to leave areas or suffer shelling - they no longer leave by using transport - they have to walk since there is a high chance they will be bombed.

Attempting to justify this as "collateral damage" to like using a mouthwash. McVey described the deaths at Oklahoma as "collateral damage" - he was trained by the military and accustomed to "sweetening terminology". Dramatic titles for operations in Iraq - eg "Shock and Awe", killed many 1000's of people, but that's "collateral damage" and "legal".

It is easy to sit in a totally different part of the world and have opinions. In reality, 99% chance, if the same scenario was within your area - you'd do exactly the same thing. If a bomb wiped out your family or a family member was illegally held as a "prisoner of war" or a "political prisoner" by another nation for years on end - you'd prob blow them to hell and back. Any Israel whose family suffered from suicide bombings would prob feel the same way.

It is ironic that there has been little moral objection to funding groups, which by your definition, were "terrorists" in the 20th century, but in the 21st century they appear to now be a major source of concern and something to have an opinion on. The world never did change because of the first "terrorist" attack on US soil - that existed long before even the US existed.

Truth is.. "we" know fuck all about this conflict, apart from international treaties and what is published in the media and what govts try to tell us what we think. Snippets of "justification" in movies is just that - whether it's Galloway or some spokesperson for Lebanon or Israel. The people that do know are those on the ground.

Nuff said
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