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Old 07-31-2006, 05:23 PM  
Libertine
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Originally Posted by Lenny2
GO FUCK YOURSELF

Israel has every right to defend itself from terrorists so quit all your fucking boo-hooing over the collateral damage.
Do you think Hezbollah gives a flying fuck if their rockets kill Israeli civilians?

Let the Jews kick the shit out of these dumb ass towel heads once and for all and get it over with.
You are giving two rather odd arguments here.

The second goes like this: "If an evil, fundamentalist, terrorist organization kills innocent civilians, it is ok for Israel to copy the behaviour that makes the organization in question evil, fundamentalist terrorists."

I don't think I even have to point out why that line of argument doesn't exactly work.

The first is simpler, and more interesting: "Israel has the right to defend itself."

Indeed, it does. However, only with proportionate actions. Furthermore, right now, Israel is not just defending itself. It clearly is not interested in a cease-fire at this point, and in fact wants to win this conflict completely. While that may be a rational position, it does mean that Israel is in fact not merely defending itself, but is on the offensive, choosing an aggressive role in this conflict. That changes things, a lot, because it gives Israel the full responsibility for any consequences their strategy has.
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