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SplitInfinity · 07-28-2006, 11:56 PM

Spudstr - Congrats on your ARIN assignment! Clap! Clap! Hard to beat he beaurocracies. (spelled right? lol) To succeed is to win for real with ARIN.

Kre8t0r - Thread of the month, radical! Im happy now. I needed one of those in my GFY life-time. :-) I am happy some hosts posted their ASN's. Those who didnt want to respond to the "call-out" well... there is no reason they shouldnt post their ASN's if they have them. Hell, there was a time even I didnt have my own... maturity kicked in though. :-)

New key? Old farts have ASN's? lol

The purpose of this post R.Benoit is that web hosting companies should
really BE multi-homed if they claim to be and if they REALLY are multi-homed, then they should show that by publicly showing thier ASN.
I see alot of banner ads claming multi-homed however most are not "themselves" multi-homed and carrier neutral. Being carrier neutral is very important and provides mobility of ip space should one tier one go Enron on you.

Scenario....

Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!!

Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes
go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime.
No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime.
In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location...

Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.

07-28-2006, 11:56 PM
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Spudstr - Congrats on your ARIN assignment! Clap! Clap! Hard to beat he beaurocracies. (spelled right? lol) To succeed is to win for real with ARIN. Kre8t0r - Thread of the month, radical! Im happy now. I needed one of those in my GFY life-time. :-) I am happy some hosts posted their ASN's. Those who didnt want to respond to the "call-out" well... there is no reason they shouldnt post their ASN's if they have them. Hell, there was a time even I didnt have my own... maturity kicked in though. :-) New key? Old farts have ASN's? lol The purpose of this post R.Benoit is that web hosting companies should really BE multi-homed if they claim to be and if they REALLY are multi-homed, then they should show that by publicly showing thier ASN. I see alot of banner ads claming multi-homed however most are not "themselves" multi-homed and carrier neutral. Being carrier neutral is very important and provides mobility of ip space should one tier one go Enron on you. Scenario.... Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!! Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime. No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime. In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location... Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.