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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
its not tough at all, you said it yourself, if they have a nats (or similar) backend, affiliates are credited no matter what processor gets used. i see this as the only way to use cascading billing. its not like nats is expensive. sure, the program is just trying to save the sale but they apparently don't care if its saved for the affiliate as well by only paying out on one processor. in my mind its just justified theft by being too cheap to go with a solution that can handle more than one processor.
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What's your site? Do you have Nats MPA3 etc, running your affiliate program? Do you have an affilaite program? Lot of talk if you don't. It's not as easy as you think to get this stuff running. You seem to think that you buy some software and it magically gets setup overnight.
Some of us are trying to run a site. 1 fucking site. not 30 or 100 sites. A cascading affiliate program requires a hell of a lot more work than a simple ccbill program. You suddenly have to deal with hosting issues and content creation for the program etc. PLUS you have to be able to send out payment to the affilaites every 2 weeks or what ever your schedule is by yourself. will Ccbill they take care of that for you. Your going to drop at least 3 grand right from the begining to get everything setup. plus pay out another 300+ a month to rent the software. Ccbill charges nothing extra. How many extra member signups per month do you figure a single site would have to get in order to cover these costs?
We are already paying for the Hosting, content creation, credit card billing, props, dildos, design, workstations etc Plus I have to pay for all the travel to GET to that content, worry about 2257 and all the other bullshit that's coming down on site owners AND I'm paying ccbill affiliates 50% of the ccbill sale and all recurring. I have other processors on my join page, which all together account for less than 10% of the total signups the site makes. 90% still come from ccbill. The ones that ccbill misses hopefully the other catch. You call it shaving, I call it surviving.
I'm not a server guy. I know squat about unix, linux apachie or even HTML for that matter. I'm not able to take a script and install it myself let alone get something like a cascading program running. It gets to the point where you just say fuck it and stay with the ccbill program.
I started with the ccbill program like 4 years ago, was able to get it running with one phone call to ccbill and 2 hours of time. at that point affiliates where able to make sales to the site and get paid. For the last 2 fucking YEARS I have tried to get a cascading program running yet, it's still sitting undone. Promote me or don't. The ccbill program is there and stable as ever. You WILL make money. If you don't like the setup then promote something else, simple as that. Or better yet, change roles and run your own paysite and look at it from the other point of view.