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Old 07-23-2006, 02:58 AM  
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Originally Posted by Well Dunn
Ok thanks for the lengthy, informed post, I realy do appreciate it. However as far as BOS taking bets outside of games, I personaly booked a bet with an agent before the bears/packers game. So I have first hand knowledge of this, as do alot of other people. It would be awfuly hard for someone to tell me that didnt happen, since I was there and all.
Sure.. understand. The problem with that is whether this was the something from Gary Kaplan's days or after he sold out BOS. It is already known Mr Kaplan had a ... flippant regard for US laws - and still does - although he is a US citizen.

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Originally Posted by Well Dunn
as far as the WTO goes I guess we will see, however it is laughable to assume they would jeoparidize world commerce by placing any kind of demands on the table that the US would not comply with. If there are any demands from the WTO it would be to grant bail, and enter into some kind of negotiations with the WTO. It will not be a matter of "free this man or we will place tarriffs". This world is ran by money, and in the end the WTO is going to side with the US government on at least some of the charges against him. That's the real reason they are charging him with a ton of stuff that doesnt seem relevant.
The WTO issue has nothing to do with granting bail or charges against David - nor has it any rights to demand "free this man or we will place tarriffs"

The WTO already has made judgement and has not granted this in favor of the US and ruled that the Wire Act, Travel Act and the Illegal Gambling Business Act are in violation of international trading.

The above acts are the basis of charges against Carruthers - and deemed to be "illegal" under GATS. If the law is ruled illegal and the US wishes to change the law and avoid tarriffs, there are no charges against Carruthers.

Basically there is a choice - change the law and permit US citizens access to internet gaming (and some other stuff) or have possible tarriffs implemented.

BTW.. This action was taken by the Govt of Antigua and Barbuda, Canada, EU, Mexico, UK and others - the relevance kinda supercedes the current BOS matter.

There is also a scenario for the adult industry where any webmaster can be grabbed off an airflight and tried under local law in any country he happens to pass thru for possible adult-related offenses within that country - even tho he has no business interests or lives in that country. If all countries started behaving like that - we would all end up in jail cells over the world.
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