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Originally Posted by Webby
Shit... your asking a lot of things in one post 
OK.. I'll throw my own shit into the pot. You got two people, the leaders of both Lebanon and Israel. Neither of them are stupid men. Both may have a wish to have some life with peace. Meantime, there is a problem - not necessarily caused by either leader, but with internal issues. Both these guys have "internal issues" - whether that comes from "terrorist orgs" or within members of their own cabinet.
While attempting to keep the world all cool and living in lala land, both leaders were blessed with a brain and a mouth. There is/was nothing to hinder either arranging constant and regular communication towards having peace. In the background, it may well be that "incidents" are occuring and this is not helpful. However, the main goal is a peace settlement and not the daily rabble of aggression. Both need to understand that fully - and little doubts both do in reality.
Then Mr Stupid creeps under the door. Why would any leader who wants to work with another then launch a missle strike on the offices of the other??? DUH? Got to be one of the dumbest diplomatic moves in history.
From that point, it just set any prospect of peace back.. dunno.. 20 years.
Truth is man... I don't believe there was any desire on the part of the current Israeli govt to have any peace. There are others in the background who also have no desire for peace and they are being guided by advisors with an agenda on a bigger scale. There is war going on - the bullets may be flying in Lebanon, but the main front is elsewhere and more closer to home. |
Yes I'm sure there is some connections closer to home.. I posted it earlier that I'm sure we will find out soon enough if the Bush admin has plans to go after Syria or Iran. If they really have that agenda this will be the time they do it, because they have the perfect cover to do it.
Top that off with the fact that Israel is already in the fight so we could use them as an ally instead of keeping them out like it happened in Iraq. I have no arguments on that matter at all and I don't support it in any way. Belive me I don't support what our govt does in some of these matters in any way shape or forum.
The argument I have is when you guys are acting like this entire deal is all Israel's fault. Then saying the civilian deaths are all their fault when it's not. There maybe agenda's on our side and the Israeli's side.. but Hezbollah has a equally evil agenda and they are at fault in this matter as much as anyone.
Also I don't buy it for one damn minute that Lebanon "coundn't" do anything about Hezbollah. They allowed them to operate within their boarders as 'juz" said, if they couldn't control their own country then they shouldn't have it.
You are talking about diplomacy but what would Lebanon have done about it? They wouldn't have done shit, just like always. The other issue about prisoner trades, the Israli's already did that with Hezbollah in the past they traded over 1k prisonors for 3 Israeli's solders. What did Hezbollah do? They kidnapped 2 more, so why shouldn't Israel of dsone what they have done?
Should they just keep letting them kidnapp their troops?
btw it's been fun but I'm going to bed..