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Originally Posted by Raven
I'm not sure why he felt the need to put this on the boards....this self flagellation thread....it was taken care of nicely behind the scenes, where it belonged.
However. Now that he has...all bets are off and the truth will out.
It wasn't just a matter of Flog not doing what he was paid to do.....he was new to the industry and was being trained....don't we all wish we had mentors who cared...
He stole. He lied. He created triangles. He tried to launch himself off Lindsay's name and dime. I could go on and on....because Lindsay and I and other key players have been dealing with this for over a week now....when we had far more important tasks to accomplish......
Honest, A1R3K....this is NOT the way Lindsay wanted this handled...he would have stayed off the boards...and kept it where it belonged..if not for this 'oh woe is me' thread from Flog. I don't know what he hoped to accomplish by doing this. There are priests for such things.
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Raven, as CTB's employee, you should have picked up the phone and talked to him before making this post.
Flog made this post because he was threatened and told to. He is not trying to destroy your business, and your paranoia is beyond lame.
I went to bed last night determined to stay out of this. I hoped that Lindsay would go to sleep (after a big night out) and wake up and realize how much of an emotional over reaction this was, because he was right to go off his head at Flog for not paying the designer but there is more to the rest.
A few truths from this thread that need to be corrected:
1) Flog was hired for a job way above his skill level, said so, was told no it will be fine you will learn. Flog repeatedly said "I can't complete this task because I need a programmer".
3) Eventually flog started lying, saying he had completed tasks he hadn't even figured out how to do yet because he felt stupid saying he didn't know how to do things. A lesson we all need to learn.
4) Raven was hired, and a series of problems arose from a combination of Flog's poor time management skills and Raven's poor management skills
5) Flog's lack of maturity and business experience made him handle everything that followed badly, and he made more fuckups trying to fix his original one
6) Flog started asking around for other jobs because he could see he wasn't going to be able to fix things.
7) Flog didn't pay a designer he was supposed and behaved badly towards him for it. This is the only truly bad thing he did.
CTB is one of my best friends, and someone who is very dear to me. We are friends beyond business bullshit and have the type of relationship that's impossible to explain. We are just friends, unconditionally and above all of this type of bullshit. One of the things I love about him most is his passion for his friends, and a large part of his emotion from this situation is because the shit with Flog has caused Raven & I to not like each other - 2 of his closest friends.
I would have arrived at this conclusion anyway though ... Raven and I are just not the type of people who can work together, so we would have ended up not liking each other eventually. We are both strong women, we clash.
I have also had the opportunity to get to know Flog well, and he is a sweet kid who just got in out of his depth. I am so upset at how his life is being destroyed by this situation, and those who have posted their opinions without knowing anything that has gone on hopefully at least got a good sig spot.
In closing, CTB has every right to have been pissed off at Flog's actions. He's done a bad job of handling his job ... but at his core he's just a sweet kid who has had to learn his first lesson in business the VERY HARD way - via a CTB spanking.