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Old 06-08-2006, 01:12 PM  
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Originally Posted by Coatsy
I didn't say America wasn't properous before 1971, I was saying trading oil in dollars only began in 71
your whole argument is based on the US protecting its prosperity by attacking iraq. the simple fact that we were prosperous before 1971 pokes holes in your theory.



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Originally Posted by Coatsy
Its arguable that the 1973 oil crisis was Americas own doing, punishment for supporting Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
the oil crisis was a short term event. the point is, your theory doesn't hold water because we were just as prosperous before the american dollar standard for oil as after.



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Originally Posted by Coatsy
Prove America was more prosperous in the 1960s Vs 1980s & 90s
I don;t have to because thats not the point. You'd like us to believe we went to war to protect the dollars for oil currency because without it (to use your words)"America's imperial empire will fall and you will become a third world country"
well, considering we were never a third world country before 1971, your theory just doesn't add up.

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Originally Posted by Coatsy
Last time i checked American was still occupying Afghanistan, I'm sorry but your wrong

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1644813.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1626889.stm

Or maybe you do not recognise the BBC as a valid news source
we can't continue to play if you're going to start lying.
I told you we are not seizing oil and your response is to post links to an article about afganistan building a pipeline?
here are some quotes from the articles you've linked to:

this speaks to your theory exactly:
"""Flawed theory

This line of argument falls down on a number of points.

It is undeniably true that the Central Asian republics do have very significant reserves of gas and oil, and that they have been having difficulty in getting them on to the world market on conditions favourable to them.

Until recently Russia had an almost total monopoly of export pipelines, and was demanding a high price, in economic and political terms, for their use.
But it simply is not true that Afghanistan is the main alternative to Russia.

On the contrary, very few western politicians or oil companies have taken Afghanistan seriously as a major export route - for the simple reason that few believe Afghanistan will ever achieve the stability needed to ensure a regular and uninterrupted flow of oil and gas.""""


"""Afghanistan hopes to strike a deal later this month to build a $2bn pipeline through the country to take gas from energy-rich Turkmenistan to Pakistan and India.""""
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now, if the definition of "seizing oil" means afganistan piping oil to pakistan and india, I guess you've got me
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