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Well dudes, looks like I am gonna get sucked into this spam thread. Great pub for tear2. Moose, sly and the others who have defended the sale of ip's are right on the money. In adult clients tend to ask for greaat amounts of ip's and often try to keep cycling them for seo purposes and the like. IP's cost money in may ways and it is a huge bitch to try and get them from arin, its easier just to buy a hosting company and take their ip's. Arin is very stingy with them and if someone sells you a 100 dollar server and gives you 64 ip's for free thats bad business. what happens when the guy who wants 500 megs of bandwidth needs the same 64 ip's? No company can just go grab a new /20 from ARIN any more, so we all have to consider how to use our limited resources. ip's are limited, the adult community pays less for hosting then anyone else and the goal of any business is to make money, why is this such a problem? we are not the oil companies, our prices are very low, a dollar per ip is easily justifiable. lets all make money together, the best business relationships are where the customer and vendor realize the relationships value. if tear2 can make money that way then their rates have to be higher in other areas, other wise they will sink. thats a fact, and its a fact for all of us. my bandwidth rates are super low and we offer the largest peering range in adult, others offer services we cannot. hopefully as a prospective hosting client, one would take the time to understand the real costs of doing business. a 99 dollar server does not make on a big client, I try to treat everyone as well as I can and offer the best service I can, I know others who posted in here do the same. I respect them, know them, eat with them and buy em drinks. enough with these fake spam threads, seriously. I have run 3 ISP's, am in the who's who in american business for doing it, I actually know what all this takes, as for OC-3 I personally set that pricing level for ip's for adult purposes. want to know why I did it just contact me. I personally stand behind what we do. I know milan (the owner) does too. Further, I know the other guys who defended this practice, guys, I am with you.
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