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Old 06-01-2006, 10:45 AM  
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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
Who decides who's a criminal or who might look like a criminal? "showing of reasonable necessity"... yeah, the law inforcment agencies are really known for being discerning and not abusing their powers.

In a free society, it's normal for citizens to be made aware when their home / business is searched (you're innocent until proven guilty). This was changed after 911. This used to be a right, but not anymore.
Incorrect.
the bill of rights reads:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

so, if you can't find "made aware when their home / business is searched" in there, you should move on. you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
So there you go, you lost a right (and we only touched 5 lines of the patriot act - we're not even talking about NSA wiretaping etc yet).
anytime you'd like to talk about the already proven legal wiretapping of people calling outside the country to suspected terrorists, go ahead. I'll school you on that too.






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Originally Posted by Jay[neX]
And here's something else you might want to take a minute and think about:



If you don't see anything wrong with this last part, well imagine if whistle blowers could never be allowed to speak out. You'd get a corrupt and almighty government in place.
sadly, liberals want to confuse "whistle blowing" with leaking classified information. In another time, this would be called spying or subversion. liberal scum now want it to be "whistle blowing"
they should be thrown in jail.

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Do you agree with the outting of Joe Wilson's wife? You think it's ok to commit treason cause he questioned the administration's "facts" about Iraq? Ultimately all of this is related.
I sure do agree with it.
once you use your job to conduct politics, you should no longer have your job. please show me proof she was ever covert.
I'll wait.
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