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Old 06-01-2006, 10:20 AM  
Jay_StandAhead
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Originally Posted by 12clicks
I'm sorry. Are you advocating telling criminals about searches?
As you've pointed out, to conduct the search, there has to be a "a showing of reasonable necessity" and warrents issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC).

Now, which freedoms were lost here?
I'm really curious because I really want to get them back.

Who decides who's a criminal or who might look like a criminal? "showing of reasonable necessity"... yeah, the law inforcment agencies are really known for being discerning and not abusing their powers.

In a free society, it's normal for citizens to be made aware when their home / business is searched (you're innocent until proven guilty). This was changed after 911. This used to be a right, but not anymore.

So there you go, you lost a right (and we only touched 5 lines of the patriot act - we're not even talking about NSA wiretaping etc yet).




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Under FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) procedures, all hearings and decisions are conducted in secret. The Department of Justice has not disclosed even the most basic information about the court's activities despite repeated requests from Congress, the American Civil Liberties Union and other advocacy groups.

Furthermore, by skirting reports of illegal warrants and unlawful surveillance by the FISA court itself, the FISA Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court have failed to address several fundamental issues.

And here's something else you might want to take a minute and think about:

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Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You're Calling

May 15, 2006 10:33 AM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

A senior federal law enforcement official tells ABC News the government is tracking the phone numbers we (Brian Ross and Richard Esposito) call in an effort to root out confidential sources.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...l_source_.html
If you don't see anything wrong with this last part, well imagine if whistle blowers could never be allowed to speak out. You'd get a corrupt and almighty government in place.

Do you agree with the outting of Joe Wilson's wife? You think it's ok to commit treason cause he questioned the administration's "facts" about Iraq? Ultimately all of this is related.
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