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Old 02-09-2017, 03:38 PM   #1
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New website, it makes sense to start with https?

As the title, having to start a new website, with new domain, it makes sense to start with https on all pages throughout the site?
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Old 02-09-2017, 06:20 PM   #2
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It complicates things and costs more money to get the cert. Pain to setup as well. Slight SEO bump but debatable how much. Me personally, I would start with plain HTTP, prove out the viability of the site then if you are making money add the SSL.

Take your current site profit, multiply it by 5%. If it is greater than the cost of the cert then do it. If not, you're probably just wasting money.
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Old 02-09-2017, 06:30 PM   #3
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If you run a paysite then I would say yes.
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:36 PM   #4
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It's not necessary unless it's necessary. If you want to accept payments or collect personal information you need it. Otherwise probably not.

If it makes you sleep better knowing that you have https and google likes https, go for it, but realistically it's not going to affect your SEO.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:11 AM   #5
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Thanks for the answers, if I had to buy the certificate, I would not do, but in my cpanel on hawkhost there is this:

Let's Encrypt™ SSL

Let's Encrypt™ is an effort to provide free domain-validated certificates in an automated fashion. This page provides a facility to issue certificates via the Let's Encrypt™ service. Certificates issued here will be renewed automatically.
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If it's free, maybe it's worth ... but I also think not bring great benefits

Maybe just to try one ...
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:36 AM   #6
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As the title, having to start a new website, with new domain, it makes sense to start with https on all pages throughout the site?
as soon as you have any form on the site where users are write comments or personal data or even an emaildress https is not the wrong chice. if you do not have such a from you really do not need it.

you can see it very good in firefox when you are on a site with forms and no https you get a small warning left from the url line. if the is no form there will not be a warning.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:45 AM   #7
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:26 PM   #8
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I decided that I want to follow the world so as it should be, and not according to sick vision that google would like us to adopt.

So fuck https and fuck google!

Thanks for answer
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:38 PM   #9
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I decided that I want to follow the world so as it should be, and not according to sick vision that google would like us to adopt.

So fuck https and fuck google!

Thanks for answer

I would never say fuck google........... but i would just follow the biggest porn sites in the world with what they do
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Old 02-11-2017, 06:44 AM   #10
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Start new sites with https. No doubt about it. Get a free Let's Encrypt certificate. Chrome and Firefox already show a warning message on non-ssl login pages. They are going to expand that behaviour to ALL non-ssl pages. So sooner or later you are forced to move to https. It's better to start with it now.
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Old 02-13-2017, 03:40 AM   #11
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Yes, you should use https. It is very simple to setup and cheap as well. Only problem you may have is with mixed content.

btw xhamster.com is https now.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:01 AM   #12
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https looks like this days is worth it ... but still pornhub didn't make there https
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:02 PM   #13
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Would https be increase sales on paysites? What do you think?

However the payment forms isn't on paysites end. It's on epoch's, vendo's end and all of them have ssl's on their form pages.

Why would this be a requirement?
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Yes.

The new warnings when there are forms on a site are just the start - and where things are headed, might as well be ahead of the curve.

SSL these days is such a small extra cost there is no excuse to not use it by default.
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Can scoop even paid basic SSL at $9 or less year so I'm using one on my main mainstream sites sitewide and plan to use them on even simple sites as well.
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Old 02-19-2017, 06:07 AM   #16
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Yes.

The new warnings when there are forms on a site are just the start - and where things are headed, might as well be ahead of the curve.

SSL these days is such a small extra cost there is no excuse to not use it by default.
the problem appears when you want to use script from sources what do not have an ssl alternative yet.

i would recommend to leave it without https as long there are no forms on the page.
to include in such a page https is not a problem but other wy round it may effect negative.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:03 AM   #17
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I'd do SSL, too. Costs are very low and very easy to setup on most hosts.
Since there are no downsides ecept the few $ you have to pay - why wouldn't you?
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:15 PM   #18
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For sure i must say that https is a must.
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If your site has a secure connection (https) and also the embed page/site from other Domain (iframes from other domains) - the user also gets a warning.
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:37 AM   #21
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If your site has a secure connection (https) and also the embed page/site from other Domain (iframes from other domains) - the user also gets a warning.
I have only done a quick test, but my iframe were a black square ... src, it was not loaded. Just a test, but for example, iframe of the xhamster video did not work. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Thanks for the answers, if I had to buy the certificate, I would not do, but in my cpanel on hawkhost there is this:

Let's Encrypt™ SSL

Let's Encrypt™ is an effort to provide free domain-validated certificates in an automated fashion. This page provides a facility to issue certificates via the Let's Encrypt™ service. Certificates issued here will be renewed automatically.
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If it's free, maybe it's worth ... but I also think not bring great benefits

Maybe just to try one ...
My advise is to stay away from Let's Encrypt for a little while. There's still a lot of browsers not supporting their SSL. It has to do something with their root certificates, which are not supported on some older operating systems (especially on phones). It's much better to purchase some commercial SSL, since they are quiet cheap (~$10). Pay attention that you probably need to buy a separate SSL for each subdomain (except www), including CDN subdomains, or you have to buy some more expensive certificate which supports wildcard domains (~$100).

However, SSL is something that you probably do not need, unless you are dealing with important or private user data (such as billing or personal information/documents) since it slows down the connection and increases CPU load. Maybe CPUs with hardware AES could speed it up a bit, but you you need a CPU which supports it.

Whatever SEO gurus claim, it will not help your SEO.
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My advise is to stay away from Let's Encrypt for a little while. There's still a lot of browsers not supporting their SSL. It has to do something with their root certificates, which are not supported on some older operating systems (especially on phones).
yea it doesn't work on blackberry lol
https://letsencrypt.org/docs/certificate-compatibility/

https is required now if you want traffic from google. your competitors will be upgrading or have already upgraded. most of our cms sites are moving to https.

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I have only done a quick test, but my iframe were a black square ... src, it was not loaded. Just a test, but for example, iframe of the xhamster video did not work. Can anyone confirm or deny?
all elements on the page have to be https - libraries, images, videos, iframes, etc.

we had big problems with VetteNation iframes. they can't figure out https. we reverted back to http on those pages using htaccess.

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