[Follow Along] Peppies Tube Adventure - GoFuckYourself.com

ekkamai · 06-07-2016, 08:52 AM

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Hi Guys,

It is good to be here and learn from everyone. Instead of chipping away the community by asking endless questions in the threads, I figured it would be nice to document my journey into the adult pub industry here in this follow along. I’m really looking forward to your input, words of wisdom and constructive opinions.

About Me
"Peppy", Asia based nomad traveller. Facebook affiliate doing mid $x,xxx/d profit, current focus on Nutra, Gambling and Sweeps. Team of 7 (+1 american) in the Philippines. Strong background in technology, former business analyst at an investment bank. I don't have any experience in the adult world, other than some "dating" campaigns on exoclick and pof.

Why?
The reason why I want to get into the adult pub tube is because it's real. I'll have sites, domains, real visitors and intellectual property... instead of short lived campaigns.

The Plan
Build out a network of niche tube sites!

Let's go!

j3rkules · 06-07-2016, 09:30 AM

Welcome ekkamai on gfy. Have a nice time here.

Let's see some of your websites if you do not mind.

Twoface31 · 06-07-2016, 09:35 AM

welcome and good luck....

ekkamai · 06-07-2016, 10:29 AM

KVS vs Mechbunny vs Wordpress vs ?

Today I'm going to be spending some time deciding on what technology platform to base my tube network on. From the research i've done, it seems like the industry has three darlings that I need to choose between.

My Requirements

Can build a network of sites using the same database
Supports multi-language site & content
Ecosystem of theme developers, extensions etc
Best in class

Just a few random thought about each

KVS
- Seems to have the some solid testimonials and used on big sites
- Satellite license costs $269, so each additional tube costs $$
- Satellite sites can run off the same database
- Default theme is quite plain, wasn't able to find any template's for sale to get me started
- Have seen posts on gfy offering to buy only KVS sites, so perhaps there is a preference?

Mechbunny
- Unlimited domain usage license, so software costs are reduced if I grow
- Satellite sites rely on their own database, embeding from the parent. Not ideal
- Management active on GFY, responsive at the weekend to a question I had
- Plenty of themes available, default one is very usable

Wordpress
- Simple to deploy as multisite etc and have multiple satellite sites
- Lacks video conversion, auto thumbnails etc
- Would have to reply on (perhaps unreliable) plugins to import from sponsor sites etc
- Plenty of nice themes like adult-wordpress-theme.com (already have a copy)
- I'm very familiar with wordpress development
- Doesnt seem like best practice to deploy wordpress for a tube

What are you thoughts guys? At the moment I'm leaning to KVS as it appears to be the "Gold Standard", but perhaps it's just the flashy website

ekkamai · 06-07-2016, 10:35 AM

double post!

ekkamai · 06-09-2016, 12:28 AM

I'm still undecided about the CRM, so took a little time to review hosting options

Requirements

USA datacentre(?)
Generous transfer allowance (10 TB+) or uncapped line
SSD Drive & 1TB+ SAS 15K
8 GB Ram
Anti-DDoS protection
Very adult friendly, experience with scripts etc
Ideally non US incorporated, with offshore options available

I went through the forum looking for suggestions and have narrowed it down to the following providers. Do any of you guys have experience with them, or can offer any other suggestions on providers or my requirements?

King Servers
king-servers/com

Jodi Host
jodihost/com

UA Hosting
ua-hosting/company

Ovh
ovh/com

M3
m3server/com

yuu.design · 06-10-2016, 06:27 PM

good luck bud, i highly recommend mechbunny for your tube sites

ekkamai · 06-14-2016, 03:42 PM

Thanks for all the feedback so far guys, its much appreciated! Bit of a slow week as I took some time off and went down to the islands in Thailand for some sun and scuba diving

In the end I decided to go with...

M3Hosting
- VPS MechBunny v150 (2gb Ram, 300gb HD) for $50/m
- I liked that it was fully managed
- They do all the initial server config, hands off for me
- Strong ties with the mechbunny guys
- Not a whole lot of storage space, but I can upgrade down the line

Mechbunny
- Plenty of people offering templates and custom designs
- Had suggestions in this thread
- Default design is usable from the start, looks great
- Pretty sure I can hack the translation feature into a multisite network instead of using the API

I some time casually researching the industry and came across the "Porn and Coffee" podcast, was pretty interesting

Clam · 06-14-2016, 04:47 PM

I'm also using M3 (great guys who know their stuff and are very helpful) and mechbunny, though my tubes are not my top priority. I'll be following your adventure as I am excited to see where you go with this.

I wish you the best of luck!

bigPunk · 06-14-2016, 08:39 PM

Good luck!
I use wordpress and hosted on nakedhosting which are great.

ekkamai · 06-15-2016, 01:27 AM

Thanks bigPunk, Clam, yuu, Twoface31 & jerkules!

I now need to decide what route to go down in terms of content and niche

General Tube vs Niched Down
1 Big Site vs 100's of Satellite Sites
Low CPM & High Volume vs High CPM and Low Volume
Pro vs Amateur Content

But thinking that perhaps for the first site I should just throw something up to get used to the software config ;)

bigPunk · 06-15-2016, 01:53 AM

I suggest go for a tube in YOUR favorite niche, its a good way to start with kind of porn that you more relate to ;)

Mr.Fiction · 09-12-2016, 09:05 AM

What happened to the tube site?

Focus · 09-13-2016, 09:36 AM

Lets us know how its going with your venture

emmasexytime · 09-14-2016, 03:36 AM

Welcome.

Great to see someone actually active in research and doing.

Can you share some of your sites?

ekkamai · 02-14-2017, 04:58 AM

Yikes, its been a while! Apologies for the updates, my main business got crazy busy and spare time went into travel

I've spun everything back up last week and have made a start on progress

Hosting
* Memory was maxing out on the VPS, so upgraded to the 8GB M3 Server smart plan
* Configured daily backups for database and content
* CDN for content and static HTML to reduce the load from google crawl

Content
* Import feeds (thanks Mech!) developed for HubTraffic and Tube Corporate, around 20 sites in total and god knows how many millions of videos using embed codes

Tracking
* Added sites to google analytics
* Added sites to google webmaster tools

Monetisation
* Installed and setup revive ad-server

Design
* Ordered logo's for two of the sites

--

To-Do For This Week

* Configure google analytics, add goals
* Development spec for google translation API to get content translated
* Development spec for text spinning tool to make content unique(ish)
* Find a suitable affiliate program (dating?) I can promote to fill banner spots for now

--

Questions

* Can I expect google to index my initial content? Must be 100's of sites with the same titles
* Are there any better ways to make content title unique, other that using a spinner?
* Should I add text descriptions to categories?

AdultVariety · 02-15-2017, 06:18 PM

Looking forward to following your progress. Good Luck!

ekkamai · 02-15-2017, 11:04 PM

I got my first two logo's back, pretty happy with how they turned out. Now to intergrate them into the sites

i.imgur.com/o1yVIoy.png

i.imgur.com/w4MdYNl.png

They were done by adultdesign-dot-me and were $25 each, super reasonable price for the quality.

06-07-2016, 08:52 AM	#1
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	[Follow Along] Peppies Tube Adventure //================================================== // [Follow Along] Peppies Tube Adventure //================================================== Hi Guys, It is good to be here and learn from everyone. Instead of chipping away the community by asking endless questions in the threads, I figured it would be nice to document my journey into the adult pub industry here in this follow along. I’m really looking forward to your input, words of wisdom and constructive opinions. About Me "Peppy", Asia based nomad traveller. Facebook affiliate doing mid $x,xxx/d profit, current focus on Nutra, Gambling and Sweeps. Team of 7 (+1 american) in the Philippines. Strong background in technology, former business analyst at an investment bank. I don't have any experience in the adult world, other than some "dating" campaigns on exoclick and pof. Why? The reason why I want to get into the adult pub tube is because it's real. I'll have sites, domains, real visitors and intellectual property... instead of short lived campaigns. The Plan Build out a network of niche tube sites! Let's go!

06-07-2016, 09:30 AM	#2
j3rkules VIP Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 22,104	Welcome ekkamai on gfy. Have a nice time here. Let's see some of your websites if you do not mind. __________________ How To Build A Porn Site And Make Money \| My Best $$$ Cam Sponsor 3 Top Adult Hosting Providers

06-07-2016, 09:35 AM	#3
Twoface31 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,746	welcome and good luck.... __________________ Email: [email protected] HentaiG4h * Lusty Life ICQ: 291-953

06-07-2016, 10:29 AM	#4
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	KVS vs Mechbunny vs Wordpress vs ? Today I'm going to be spending some time deciding on what technology platform to base my tube network on. From the research i've done, it seems like the industry has three darlings that I need to choose between. My Requirements Can build a network of sites using the same database Supports multi-language site & content Ecosystem of theme developers, extensions etc Best in class Just a few random thought about each KVS - Seems to have the some solid testimonials and used on big sites - Satellite license costs $269, so each additional tube costs $$ - Satellite sites can run off the same database - Default theme is quite plain, wasn't able to find any template's for sale to get me started - Have seen posts on gfy offering to buy only KVS sites, so perhaps there is a preference? Mechbunny - Unlimited domain usage license, so software costs are reduced if I grow - Satellite sites rely on their own database, embeding from the parent. Not ideal - Management active on GFY, responsive at the weekend to a question I had - Plenty of themes available, default one is very usable Wordpress - Simple to deploy as multisite etc and have multiple satellite sites - Lacks video conversion, auto thumbnails etc - Would have to reply on (perhaps unreliable) plugins to import from sponsor sites etc - Plenty of nice themes like adult-wordpress-theme.com (already have a copy) - I'm very familiar with wordpress development - Doesnt seem like best practice to deploy wordpress for a tube What are you thoughts guys? At the moment I'm leaning to KVS as it appears to be the "Gold Standard", but perhaps it's just the flashy website

06-09-2016, 12:28 AM	#6
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	I'm still undecided about the CRM, so took a little time to review hosting options Requirements USA datacentre(?) Generous transfer allowance (10 TB+) or uncapped line SSD Drive & 1TB+ SAS 15K 8 GB Ram Anti-DDoS protection Very adult friendly, experience with scripts etc Ideally non US incorporated, with offshore options available I went through the forum looking for suggestions and have narrowed it down to the following providers. Do any of you guys have experience with them, or can offer any other suggestions on providers or my requirements? King Servers king-servers/com Jodi Host jodihost/com UA Hosting ua-hosting/company Ovh ovh/com M3 m3server/com

06-07-2016, 10:35 AM	#5
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	double post!

06-10-2016, 06:27 PM	#7
yuu.design Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 25,924	good luck bud, i highly recommend mechbunny for your tube sites __________________ Beautiful And Usable Web Design Creations For The Adult Industry Since 2003 I'm Yuu, Designer and Content Producer Paysites - Affiliate Programs - Dating & Cam Sites - Mainstream Projects - Tube Sites - Banners - Wordpress Themes - NATs integration - Landing Pages Check my Portfolio and Content Production Offers

06-14-2016, 03:42 PM	#8
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	Thanks for all the feedback so far guys, its much appreciated! Bit of a slow week as I took some time off and went down to the islands in Thailand for some sun and scuba diving In the end I decided to go with... M3Hosting - VPS MechBunny v150 (2gb Ram, 300gb HD) for $50/m - I liked that it was fully managed - They do all the initial server config, hands off for me - Strong ties with the mechbunny guys - Not a whole lot of storage space, but I can upgrade down the line Mechbunny - Plenty of people offering templates and custom designs - Had suggestions in this thread - Default design is usable from the start, looks great - Pretty sure I can hack the translation feature into a multisite network instead of using the API I some time casually researching the industry and came across the "Porn and Coffee" podcast, was pretty interesting

06-14-2016, 04:47 PM	#9
Clam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Music City Posts: 127	I'm also using M3 (great guys who know their stuff and are very helpful) and mechbunny, though my tubes are not my top priority. I'll be following your adventure as I am excited to see where you go with this. I wish you the best of luck!

06-14-2016, 08:39 PM	#10
bigPunk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,094	Good luck! I use wordpress and hosted on nakedhosting which are great. __________________ Signature goes here

06-15-2016, 01:27 AM	#11
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	Thanks bigPunk, Clam, yuu, Twoface31 & jerkules! I now need to decide what route to go down in terms of content and niche General Tube vs Niched Down 1 Big Site vs 100's of Satellite Sites Low CPM & High Volume vs High CPM and Low Volume Pro vs Amateur Content But thinking that perhaps for the first site I should just throw something up to get used to the software config ;)

06-15-2016, 01:53 AM	#12
bigPunk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,094	I suggest go for a tube in YOUR favorite niche, its a good way to start with kind of porn that you more relate to ;) __________________ Signature goes here

09-12-2016, 09:05 AM	#13
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,476	What happened to the tube site? __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

09-13-2016, 09:36 AM	#14
Focus Last of a dying breed. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 620	Lets us know how its going with your venture

09-14-2016, 03:36 AM	#15
emmasexytime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,841	Welcome. Great to see someone actually active in research and doing. Can you share some of your sites? __________________ live camss > How to make a live cam site hardlinks > hardlinks.org List Your Site Here > nichepornsites.com Sextoys > thediscountadultshop.com XXX Rated Chicks > xxxratedchicks.com

02-14-2017, 04:58 AM	#16
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	Yikes, its been a while! Apologies for the updates, my main business got crazy busy and spare time went into travel I've spun everything back up last week and have made a start on progress Hosting * Memory was maxing out on the VPS, so upgraded to the 8GB M3 Server smart plan * Configured daily backups for database and content * CDN for content and static HTML to reduce the load from google crawl Content * Import feeds (thanks Mech!) developed for HubTraffic and Tube Corporate, around 20 sites in total and god knows how many millions of videos using embed codes Tracking * Added sites to google analytics * Added sites to google webmaster tools Monetisation * Installed and setup revive ad-server Design * Ordered logo's for two of the sites -- To-Do For This Week * Configure google analytics, add goals * Development spec for google translation API to get content translated * Development spec for text spinning tool to make content unique(ish) * Find a suitable affiliate program (dating?) I can promote to fill banner spots for now -- Questions * Can I expect google to index my initial content? Must be 100's of sites with the same titles * Are there any better ways to make content title unique, other that using a spinner? * Should I add text descriptions to categories?

02-15-2017, 06:18 PM	#17
AdultVariety Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 35	Looking forward to following your progress. Good Luck!

02-15-2017, 11:04 PM	#18
ekkamai Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 12	I got my first two logo's back, pretty happy with how they turned out. Now to intergrate them into the sites i.imgur.com/o1yVIoy.png i.imgur.com/w4MdYNl.png They were done by adultdesign-dot-me and were $25 each, super reasonable price for the quality.