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Old 01-19-2016, 02:30 AM   #51
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How do you get traffic to that white label?
You can send traffic to it from your other sites.
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From my network sites(all is organic , I don't buy traffic for cams) and that WL still gets 1k~ hits daily from google even that it was hit for thin content in December 2014 !
Wow! 1k hits per day from google alone is pretty impressive for a WL!
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You can send traffic to it from your other sites.
In that case, why not just send to the main site?
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:31 AM   #54
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In that case, why not just send to the main site?
If you'll send traffic to the main site you'll get a better conversion no doubd but your WL is your own brand you keep your traffic on your network that is the only reason !
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From my network sites(all is organic , I don't buy traffic for cams) and that WL still gets 1k~ hits daily from google even that it was hit for thin content in December 2014 !
Whitelabels are blocked to index thru robots.txt by Chaturbate.
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From my network sites(all is organic , I don't buy traffic for cams) and that WL still gets 1k~ hits daily from google even that it was hit for thin content in December 2014 !
Also, is your network of sites targetted chat traffic or someone geared towards chat or is it just general adult traffic you send to your WL.

Thanks also for your previous reply to my question.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:49 AM   #57
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Also, is your network of sites targetted chat traffic or someone geared towards chat or is it just general adult traffic you send to your WL.

Thanks also for your previous reply to my question.
My sites are cam related ,so that is all cam traffic !
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Whitelabels are blocked to index thru robots.txt by Chaturbate.
You are right but that doesn't mean that you can't rank such site , is hard but you can still rank it ! Just google "free cams" and you will see on the first 3 pages at least 2 CB WL ! How you do that ? Is simple just build backlinks on some cam related sites with some authority for different pages of your WL with proper anchor text , for example for the main page you will use the anchor "live sex" , for female-cams you can use "cam girls" and so on , its just basic SEO and in few days you will see your WL indexed but that will not guarantee you a high rank , you can just give it a try for me that worked , but I must mention that my newest CB WL is from 2013 so in the last 2 years I didn't started any new CB WL , I just focus on other programs with a better conversion !
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How you do that ? Is simple just build backlinks on some cam related sites with some authority for different pages of your WL with proper anchor text ,
But if a WL is blocked to index via a robots.txt file then no matter how many links you point at it, it still won't index in google.
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All my CB WL are indexed and some of them are getting SE traffic as I said before my best one gets 1k daily and it was hit by google for thin content , the robots.txt don't let the robots to read the content that not means that your site will not be indexed just use webmaster tools to see how your site perform on google(get verified with DNS method ) ! As I said google for free cams and on the first 3 pages you'll find two CB WLs that means is possible ! To block robots to index a site the site need to use the meta tag noindex , robot.txt is just blocking the robots acces to the content!

If you want real SE traffic forget about WLs build a custom script using APIs try to parse cams from many sources , make the site SEO friendly do some good offsite SEO and you may get what you want ! WLs are death especially new ones , those old may have a small chance but they will never get real traffic from google ! Just my two cents !
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:29 AM   #61
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All my CB WL are indexed and some of them are getting SE traffic as I said before my best one gets 1k daily and it was hit by google for thin content , the robots.txt don't let the robots to read the content that not means that your site will not be indexed just use webmaster tools to see how your site perform on google(get verified with DNS method ) ! As I said google for free cams and on the first 3 pages you'll find two CB WLs that means is possible ! To block robots to index a site the site need to use the meta tag noindex , robot.txt is just blocking the robots acces to the content!

If you want real SE traffic forget about WLs build a custom script using APIs try to parse cams from many sources , make the site SEO friendly do some good offsite SEO and you may get what you want ! WLs are death especially new ones , those old may have a small chance but they will never get real traffic from google ! Just my two cents !
I saw few very old WL who are indexed by Google.I checked thru Google search "site:http://whitelabel.com" and i saw a ton of indexed pages.Problem,as you said are new WL who are not indexed at all.But the bigest problem is that none of search engines will crawl them(neither Bing,Yandex or somene else).I found a solution to make a new and indexed site like Free sex chat | Free adult sex chat.
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:51 AM   #62
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If you want real SE traffic forget about WLs build a custom script using APIs try to parse cams from many sources , make the site SEO friendly do some good offsite SEO and you may get what you want ! WLs are death especially new ones , those old may have a small chance but they will never get real traffic from google ! Just my two cents !
Agreed ... I was thinking that it would be best to just make your own unique content site and rank that. This way you'd never have to worry about duplicate penalties etc...
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Nice earnings Sarettah, i left a message on your wall regarding possible partnership on future projects

My 2015 chaturbate earnings were $39,000. Will post screenshot when i have made a few more posts haha
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Nice earnings Sarettah, i left a message on your wall regarding possible partnership on future projects

My 2015 chaturbate earnings were $39,000. Will post screenshot when i have made a few more posts haha
Ok, that's 30 posts.

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Ok, that's 30 posts.

3 million hits for $40k. Not bad!

Is it a WL?
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3 million hits for $40k. Not bad!

Is it a WL?
My Whitelabels don't generate that much money unfortunately. I send nearly all my traffic directly to chaturbate via popunders, iframes etc
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My Whitelabels don't generate that much money unfortunately. I send nearly all my traffic directly to chaturbate via popunders, iframes etc
Popunders and iframes from your own sites/blogs/tubes or paid traffic?
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Popunders and iframes from your own sites/blogs/tubes or paid traffic?
Own sites
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Thanks.

I find that pop unders annoy most surfers (and myself as well.)

I guess if you are not as concerned about getting your visitors to come back then pop unders are okay. But I stop trusting sites that popunder ads asap.
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Damn H3x, i thought i was doing ok with chaturbate but your stats are great. Im in Glasgow. Anyway i can get in touch with you for a chat?
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Own sites

How many sites do you have ?
What sort of sites/traffic per day ?
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Its a hard job to get traffic that pays...And i am still thinking what to choose for SEO...Having more websites or having 4-5 websites with thousands of pages...
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So far i always send traffic from my index sites to chaturbate (that was only 150 people a day, +- 2 signups a day)

but thnx to this topic i decided to throw some popup traffic to it aswell. +- 3k people a day, i wonder how this will go :P
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So far i always send traffic from my index sites to chaturbate (that was only 150 people a day, +- 2 signups a day)

but thnx to this topic i decided to throw some popup traffic to it aswell. +- 3k people a day, i wonder how this will go :P
not the best.
but in time your earnings will get better
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Hi, are you using the CB Whitelabel? If so,how are you able to make that much a month with CB? I have used Banga Cams as a studio and I also have a white label and a studio with Mongo Cams. I have never made a cent on the white Labels only on the studios.
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Hi, are you using the CB Whitelabel? If so,how are you able to make that much a month with CB? I have used Banga Cams as a studio and I also have a white label and a studio with Mongo Cams. I have never made a cent on the white Labels only on the studios.
You must have thousand of backlinks from related websites to make money with an WL.Or choose a domain name very related to "cams".(for example freesexcams.com or something else)
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What traffic are you pushing to it? 9k uniques should give more than 11 sign ups if it is traffic looking for cams.
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Comes from exoclick. Is there a way I can hit traffic looking for cams?
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Comes from exoclick. Is there a way I can hit traffic looking for cams?
There are many ways... plus there are niches that convert well with cams.
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There are many ways... plus there are niches that convert well with cams.
I must admit I am spending an unreasonable amount of money testing and trying to find out.
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What traffic are you pushing to it? 9k uniques should give more than 11 sign ups if it is traffic looking for cams.
9k hits can easily be 100 uniques or so...
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9k hits can easily be 100 uniques or so...
Chaturbate lists unique hits. I have checked with them on that and I have kept track for 2 years. So the 9k listed is unique hits.

I generally run about 1 in 30 so from that many uniques I would have seen around 300 or so sign ups. But most of my traffic is SE traffic looking for cams.

From my own experience and what I have seem others say, purchased traffic does not normally do well with cams.

You might be able to do something with purchased traffic by filtering it down some and sending some to cams but other to paysites, whatever.

I do not have personal experience but have been told that dating traffic does ok with cams also,

Drexl, is it a WL you are sending to? If i was doing a WL I think I would probably set up a cam blog or a cam review site and use that for the SEs and send traffic from there to the cams. That way you have a chance of getting some ranking.

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9k hits can easily be 100 uniques or so...


The left 3 columns are from my hit counter in the database and the right 3 columns are a direct cut and paste from my CB stats.

If you notice the hits count from CB tracks very closely to my unique count.

The hit count column on the left is the actual number of hits I sent.

The main differences between the 2 counts are because my counter is 24 hours based on my server time which is an hour off from CB.

I also am using my own formula to figure uniques based on cookies I set and their formula does not match exactly.

If you notice, on the 16th my sign ups were way off. I had dropped very badly in the rankings back on Dec 22. I corrected that on the 15th and my traffic came back to normal on the 17th. So, the traffic on the 16th reflects really crappy rankings where the traffic from the 17th on reflects mainly page 1 rankings.

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There are many ways... plus there are niches that convert well with cams.
I send (US - Amateur - English) to RON
Any suggestion is more than welcome, and any results would save my sanity
I mainly target the US market because americans have the tipping culture, and CB is about tips. Amateur sounds reasonable also because that's what you see on CB.
It would be great if I could pick a subniche (ex: gay amateur) but it looks like I can only choose logical OR as opposed to logical AND (sorry for the crappy explanation).


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From my own experience and what I have seem others say, purchased traffic does not normally do well with cams.

You might be able to do something with purchased traffic by filtering it down some and sending some to cams but other to paysites, whatever.
It's the only thing I have for now: paying for traffic.
I was counting on the sheer number of impressions and clicks to at least get a few sign ups that convert.

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Drexl, is it a WL you are sending to? If i was doing a WL I think I would probably set up a cam blog or a cam review site and use that for the SEs and send traffic from there to the cams. That way you have a chance of getting some ranking.

Just my
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To answer your question, I have a WL but I only send little traffic to it. Most of my traffic goes to the main CB site.
I am not sure how long that would take me to be ranked in SEs. I am considering buying a site.



I have a general question, in exoclick if I chose the Adult - Lesbian niche and then pick YouPorn as a website, does it mean the banner will show up in the Lesbian section of YouPorn or does it mean it can appear anywhere on YouPorn?


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I am not sure how long that would take me to be ranked in SEs. I am considering buying a site.
It can take any where from a day to a year or so to get ranked. There is no real rhyme or reason behind it as far as I have ever been able to figure out.

Problem with buying a site is that if it is a successful site that is ranking it is going to be expensive. If someone is making money off their site they are going to want 6 months to a year worth of income for it. Revshare continues through the life of the site/user so it is passive, pretty dependable income. Nobody that is legit is going to give up an income producing site cheaply. That would not make sense.

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I was counting on the sheer number of impressions and clicks to at least get a few sign ups that convert.
Well, as you can see you have gotten a few sign ups. As far as revenue, it can take several months for a cam user to actual spend any money.

If I was doing that traffic I would point it all at ppl and at least get a dollar for the sign ups. That is the quickest way to build the revenue but it is a very short term plan. A cam user is usually worth a lot more across the long term as revshare.


I have never used exoclick so I am not sure how it works. Are you buying the traffic directly from exoclicks or are you running exoclick ads/plugs on another site?

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It can take any where from a day to a year or so to get ranked. There is no real rhyme or reason behind it as far as I have ever been able ot figure out.

Problem with buying a site is that if it is a successful site that is ranking it is going to be expensive. If someone is making money off their site they are going to want 6 months to a year worth of income for it. Revshare continues through the life of the site/user so it is passive, pretty dependable income. Nobody that is legit is going to give up an income producing site cheaply. That would not make sense.



Well, as you can see you have gotten a few sign ups. As far as revenue, it can take several months for a cam user to actual spend any money.

If I was doing that traffic I would point it all at ppl and at least get a dollar for the sign ups. That is the quickest way to build the revenue but it is a very short term plan. A cam user is usually worth a lot more across the long term as revshare.


I have never used exoclick so I am not sure how it works. Are you buying the traffic directly from exoclicks or are you running exoclick ads/plugs on another site?

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Long term is more what I am after, I have it all on REVs.
I'd be up for buying a site as an investment given the parameter you described)

Exoclick: I buy traffic from exoclick. I set up my Niche, geolocation, CPM, URLs+banners, target sites.
Unfortunately the niche selection seems limited.
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I said before and now I repeat you will earn real money on cams only when you'll get SE traffic , you can't buy real cam traffic because nobody is selling cam traffic , the cam traffic you find on traffic brokers are coming from tubes with webcam related names but is porn traffic not cam traffic ! Purchased traffic is not for cams , can work for other niches but not for cams ! Build unique sites using APIs , and other promo tools they offer and try to focus on SEO , also I not recommend to use wordpress and if you use it do some changes on the theme till the site is fast and have different URLs , titles ,description for each page , but will be better to have your own script than using wordpress ! You need to be patient till you new site will rank but after you will get SE traffic money will flow !
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:56 AM   #92
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Long term is more what I am after, I have it all on REVs.
I'd be up for buying a site as an investment given the parameter you described)

Exoclick: I buy traffic from exoclick. I set up my Niche, geolocation, CPM, URLs+banners, target sites.
Unfortunately the niche selection seems limited.
If you are in for the longterm then screw buying the traffic.

Either set up a small network of sites pushing to your whitelabel or CB main, something that you can control the SE content on. OR do a custom site using the api/xml feeds and push to your WL or CB main.

Neither one is all that difficult to do.

Or buy such a set up that is already out there.

I made $20k off of my cam sites last year. Since 2014 I only made $2k off of them, I increased it 10 fold in 2015 so I am projecting similar results or approximately $200k this year.

So, I would sell them to you for 6 months projected sales or about $100k. 30% down and then a monthly payment.

I think that's fair.





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If you are in for the longterm then screw buying the traffic.

Either set up a small network of sites pushing to your whitelabel or CB main, something that you can control the SE content on. OR do a custom site using the api/xml feeds and push to your WL or CB main.

Neither one is all that difficult to do.

Or buy such a set up that is already out there.

I made $20k off of my cam sites last year. Since 2014 I only made $2k off of them, I increased it 10 fold in 2015 so I am projecting similar results or approximately $200k this year.

So, I would sell them to you for 6 months projected sales or about $100k. 30% down and then a monthly payment.

I think that's fair.





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What"s all that numbers?Are you joking?Ain"t ya?
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I said before and now I repeat you will earn real money on cams only when you'll get SE traffic , you can't buy real cam traffic because nobody is selling cam traffic , the cam traffic you find on traffic brokers are coming from tubes with webcam related names but is porn traffic not cam traffic ! Purchased traffic is not for cams , can work for other niches but not for cams ! Build unique sites using APIs , and other promo tools they offer and try to focus on SEO , also I not recommend to use wordpress and if you use it do some changes on the theme till the site is fast and have different URLs , titles ,description for each page , but will be better to have your own script than using wordpress ! You need to be patient till you new site will rank but after you will get SE traffic money will flow !
Thanks for the info. What you are saying makes sense though I did record a few sign ups after buying traffic.
I admit the problem is these are costing me (and there is no return) and there is too little of them.
I will follow your advice and build sites (surely I can use scripts to speed this up?). I wanted to avoid this because I have my doubts on how to make original up to date content and on the time dedicated to do this.

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I made $20k off of my cam sites last year. Since 2014 I only made $2k off of them, I increased it 10 fold in 2015 so I am projecting similar results or approximately $200k this year.
Your figures are as follow?
2014: 2k
2015: 20k
2016: 200k
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Chaturbate lists unique hits. I have checked with them on that and I have kept track for 2 years. So the 9k listed is unique hits.
http://gfy.com/20171013-post6.html

I'm a bit confused now.
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Are unique hits as many cookies planted for 30 days? Meaning, if one of those unique hits hasn't yet gone through free registration but decide to do so in 10 days, then he will still be bound to my affiliate id?
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If you are in for the longterm then screw buying the traffic.

Either set up a small network of sites pushing to your whitelabel or CB main, something that you can control the SE content on. OR do a custom site using the api/xml feeds and push to your WL or CB main.

Neither one is all that difficult to do.

Or buy such a set up that is already out there.

I made $20k off of my cam sites last year. Since 2014 I only made $2k off of them, I increased it 10 fold in 2015 so I am projecting similar results or approximately $200k this year.

So, I would sell them to you for 6 months projected sales or about $100k. 30% down and then a monthly payment.

I think that's fair.





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I bet you can't maintain that growth %
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I'm a bit confused now.

She then clarified that she screwed up. It was a while after hat. I was talking ot her and I said something about it being raw hits and she said no it is unique. I then showed her where she said it was raw and she apologized for messing me up and assured me it was unique.

I don't think I have the email exchange any more, lost a bunch of emails in an October crash.

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Are unique hits as many cookies planted for 30 days? Meaning, if one of those unique hits hasn't yet gone through free registration but decide to do so in 10 days, then he will still be bound to my affiliate id?
I am not sure how long the cookies are set for. You could check by going through one of your links and then looking at the browser cookie info, the expiration date should be there.

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What"s all that numbers?Are you joking?Ain"t ya?
I never ever Joke, ever. Not about anything.

I have no senses of humor.

Seriously.

Trust me.

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