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Old 08-30-2009, 01:53 PM   #251
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Epoch just paid me out a very large amount of money that had been forgotten about with them years and years ago when we ran paysites - no questions asked. They would be my first choice in choosing a billing co. Thanks Frank!
in fact i also spoke with frank last year(?) there, and they will be my first choice. anyone hear of verotel? http://www.verotel.com/
a site I liked had switched over to them, which got my interest.
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well nearly everyone lost something when ibill went tits up... i ended up losing my home and had to do all sorts of shitty jobs for the next few years until i bounced back. its spilled milk either way you look at it, all you can do is keep putting out a quality product and people will buy it.

i will say that ibill did not have any class or scruples when they went under. I lost big time when websitebilling.com went under but at least rick rod. and their staff were understanding and even sent me one last wire transfer like a week after they were out of business. i lost about the same as i did with ibill but at least I didn't feel fucked because they kept me in the loop of wtf was going on with them and visa and isps etc. business is business but please dont lie to people
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well nearly everyone lost something when ibill went tits up... i ended up losing my home and had to do all sorts of shitty jobs for the next few years until i bounced back. its spilled milk either way you look at it, all you can do is keep putting out a quality product and people will buy it.
I suspect that everyone that was with iBill at the time lost something. Even people with their own merchant account were telling me that iBill wouldn’t give them their customer data so that they could move to another processor.
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