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Old 03-11-2005, 03:22 PM   #1
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Another Single Girl Site Launched: SimplySkylar.com

Donny's Money is happy to announce the launch of SimplySkylar.com.

I've stuck with a very simple design for this site, as my experiences show SIMPLE converts best.

When a member joins SimplySkylar.com they also receive access to AmateurMarket.net with regular membership. Choosing the "gold" membership option gives them access to SimplySkylar.com, AmateurMarket.net, and DonnysGirls.com.

If you're already an affiliate of Donny's Money you're set to go.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:24 PM   #2
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She looks hot. is she doing any gang bang/DP scenes?
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hahaha nice looking site


i think i might know her *wink wink* LOL
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looks good!
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:29 PM   #6
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i think i might know her *wink wink* LOL
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Yeah, she has some porn sounding name elsewhere.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:32 PM   #7
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Yeah, she has some porn sounding name elsewhere.
She moved up here into my hometown. There's a lot of history with this one. Maybe someday I'll share it.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:33 PM   #8
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:41 PM   #10
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Damn. She's a cutie....looks real familiar....
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nice ass :-)
I agree. It's fantastic.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM   #14
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What kind of name is "SkyLar"?

Sounds like somthing from Dr. Who.
She is cute, she needs a better name though.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:03 PM   #16
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What kind of name is "SkyLar"?

Sounds like somthing from Dr. Who.
She is cute, she needs a better name though.
That's the name she chose when she posed for the first time for ATK. She's also been seen on Karups Hometown Amateurs and Teen Flood under the same name.

And on Lightspeed under the name Nikki Grinds. I hate that name. WAY too porn-ish.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:18 PM   #19
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Good luck with your site.. it looks great!
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A new site with no ability to do updates? Interesting marketing idea.

This one will be updated, and she'll be appearing at Phoenix forum to promote it.

www.nikkigrinds.com

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She is cute, and I like that site being very clean looking.
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A new site with no ability to do updates? Interesting marketing idea.
I have enough content for 6 months of updates at least. Plus, she now lives here in town. After you "shoot her out", you honestly don't think she'll want to make some extra money by driving 10 minutes to my office? Shall I tell everyone the story about how you "acquired" this model, Steve? FYI: I have ALL of our ICQ conversations saved and actually posted on my site ready to let everyone read the whole story. Is that what you want?

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www.nikkigrinds.com

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Oh, you think so, huh? Why do you think she wants you to "shoot her out" instead of being on contract? Last I heard, her boyfriend wasn't going to let her go to Phoenix. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Do you REALLY want this story coming out? The story of how Steve Lightspeed behaved QUITE UNPROFESSIONALLY?
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Donovan, how about taking the name "Nikki Grinds" off of your site? Are you just *trying* to start shit with me over this?

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Donovan, how about taking the name "Nikki Grinds" off of your site? Are you just *trying* to start shit with me over this?

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I've been holding my tongue about this for a hell of a long time. I'm just waiting for the invitation to tell everyone about this.

Like I said, I have the ICQ convos and a boat load of facts.

You did the WRONG thing here Steve. You fucked people over for this model. This is why I don't like you much and why I've been so negative towards you since last year's Phoenix forum.

By the way, did you know she's done hardcore for both ATK and Karups under the original name, Skyler?
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Holy shit they're the same girl?

The rest of you GFY'ers look at both sites. Look at her eyes. You can tell that she was in a different mode on each one.
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I've been holding my tongue about this for a hell of a long time. I'm just waiting for the invitation to tell everyone about this.

Like I said, I have the ICQ convos and a boat load of facts.

You did the WRONG thing here Steve. You fucked people over for this model. This is why I don't like you much and why I've been so negative towards you since last year's Phoenix forum.

By the way, did you know she's done hardcore for both ATK and Karups under the original name, Skyler?

By the way, do you know what a tool you are? I "fucked people over"? --- dude, get your facts straight here before you open your mouth and make a bigger fool of yourself. I've done my best to make everyone happy, and this girl ain't even worth fighting over.

I don't give a fuck if you like me or not, you have never been able to mind your own business, and now you are going out of your way to interfere with mine. Good luck with that approach, lets see how far you get with it.

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By the way, do you know what a tool you are? I "fucked people over"? --- dude, get your facts straight here before you open your mouth and make a bigger fool of yourself. I've done my best to make everyone happy, and this girl ain't even worth fighting over.

I don't give a fuck if you like me or not, you have never been able to mind your own business, and now you are going out of your way to interfere with mine. Good luck with that approach, lets see how far you get with it.

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Here's the quick story:

My cousin shot this model, had her under contract, spent a lot of money on design and shooting, took her to Phoenix last year to start meeting people to promote her site, and was stolen away by Lightspeed media. "If you really want to make money do your site with us". Steve was informed about the situation and refused to deal with it properly.


There's a lot more to this, but those are the basics.
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Here's the quick story:

My cousin shot this model, had her under contract, spent a lot of money on design and shooting, took her to Phoenix last year to start meeting people to promote her site, and was stolen away by Lightspeed media. "If you really want to make money do your site with us". Steve was informed about the situation and refused to deal with it properly.


There's a lot more to this, but those are the basics.
Nikki approached US about doing a site, and when I found out she had a prior contract in place, I told her I wouldn't touch her until she resolved her situation with Kristen BETWEEN THEM. I didn't start shooting her until I got an icq from Kristen saying that everything was fine, at which point I even paid Kristen a $1000 finders fee to be EXTRA NICE.

Get a clue Donovan, you sound like a little whiney baby. Should I bring up the fact that Nikki slept with our photographer in what appeared like an attempt to get a site with us?

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Nikki approached US about doing a site, and when I found out she had a prior contract in place, I told her I wouldn't touch her until she resolved her situation with Kristen BETWEEN THEM. I didn't start shooting her until I got an icq from Kristen saying that everything was fine, at which point I even paid Kristen a $1000 finders fee to be EXTRA NICE.

Get a clue Donovan, you sound like a little whiney baby. Should I bring up the fact that Nikki slept with our photographer in what appeared like an attempt to get a site with us?

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Hmmm.... I guess the conversation we're having on ICQ will end now since I'm posting it, but you contradict yourself very well, I must say:

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:30 PM]:
what the hell are you doing now

DonovanPhillips [6:33 PM]:
I'm tired of holding my tongue.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:34 PM]:
you live in an isolated little world

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:35 PM]:
nikki has used everyone around her to her advantage --- you will get the same from her, down the road. you'll see

DonovanPhillips [6:35 PM]:
I don't kiss Steve's ass. I don't need to.

DonovanPhillips [6:35 PM]:
I used to like you, until you fucked Kristin over.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:36 PM]:
fucked kristen? how's that?

DonovanPhillips [6:36 PM]:
Oh... my... God... don't even act like you don't remember.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:37 PM]:
your cousin kristen? last i checked, she's happy as hell with her site and with being a lightspeed girl --- and I paid her a $1000 finders fee for nikki, so where exactly did i "fuck her over"?

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:38 PM]:
i'm in cancun, i'm not in the mood to argue

DonovanPhillips [6:38 PM]:
To refresh your memory.... I posted a very brief recap.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:40 PM]:
i put you on ignore for a reason --- you are a fucking tool --- i didn't "handle" the situation at all -- i let kristen and tiffany work it out between them

DonovanPhillips [6:41 PM]:
okay, is time to post our ICQ conversation from April 27th, 2004?

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:43 PM]:
yeah, show everyone your true colors, and make it so no one will trust talking to you ever --- choose wisely

DonovanPhillips [6:44 PM]:
You weren't supposed to do a site of Brandy. Now you're doing a site. You don't stick to your word very well.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:44 PM]:
you don't know a fucking thing, why do you insist on getting your nose into my business

DonovanPhillips [6:44 PM]:
That's why I dislike you. I have a nice database of info from several sources now. I told you in April '04 that I don't forget easily unless you make things right.

DonovanPhillips [6:46 PM]:
I liked you before all of this and stuck up for you against Gary, but it seems like Gary was right all along. Most people don't say much because they think you have some sort of power in the industry but I have no need for you and am not intimidated by you. You fucked over a member of my family.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:47 PM]:
last i checked, kristen is quite happy --- i don't think she needs or wants your "help"

DonovanPhillips [6:48 PM]:
I am my own person. And do you think she likes the idea of Brandy getting a site after promises were made not to do that?

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:50 PM]:
have you seen me LAUNCH the site yet, ASSHOLE?

DonovanPhillips [6:50 PM]:
You just posted that you're launching it.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:53 PM]:
i have no need to explain anything to you --- grow the fuck up man, you really want to burn me over this? it won't help either of us

DonovanPhillips [6:54 PM]:
Just don't launch the damned site and stick to your word. Once I typed in "NikkiGrinds.com" and saw that it was under development it pissed me off enough to go public.
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To clear up the confusion:

Kristin = my cousin = Tiffany Paris
Brandy = Skylar = Nikki Grinds
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I knew my ICQ convo with Steve would end soon after I posted our ICQ convo tonight:

Lightspeed-SteveJone [7:03 PM]:
if you think you have some power here, knock yourself out --- it seems to make you feel better

Lightspeed-SteveJone [7:06 PM]:
you like drama, i don't -- fuck off now, putting you back on ignore --- have fun with nikki --- and i suggest you remove the name "nikki grinds" from your site, it just makes you look stupid
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Here's the part where Steve contradicts what he posted earlier in this very thread:

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I am my own person. And do you think she likes the idea of Brandy getting a site after promises were made not to do that?

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:50 PM]:
have you seen me LAUNCH the site yet, ASSHOLE?

DonovanPhillips [6:50 PM]:
You just posted that you're launching it.

Lightspeed-SteveJone [6:53 PM]:
i have no need to explain anything to you --- grow the fuck up man, you really want to burn me over this? it won't help either of us

DonovanPhillips [6:54 PM]:
Just don't launch the damned site and stick to your word. Once I typed in "NikkiGrinds.com" and saw that it was under development it pissed me off enough to go public.
Earlier in this thread Steve wrote:

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This one will be updated, and she'll be appearing at Phoenix forum to promote it.

www.nikkigrinds.com

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We'll all be in Phoenix, promoting the LightspeedGirls and the Lightspeed Project. Nikki and I have been negotiating over the launch of her site, which is why it is not launched already.

Looks to me like you are the one that wants to fuck up her opportunities here.

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We'll all be in Phoenix, promoting the LightspeedGirls and the Lightspeed Project. Nikki and I have been negotiating over the launch of her site, which is why it is not launched already.

Looks to me like you are the one that wants to fuck up her opportunities here.

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I just want you to stick to your word. She was supposed to do the site with Kristin and Tod. Not only did you steal her from Kristin, you then refused to buy the content she'd shot for that site. It cost her thousands and thousands of dollars.

When she saw that you were going to steal the model no matter what, she took your measly $1,000 "referral fee". She didn't have a whole lot of negotiating power with you. She didn't want to lose TiffanyParis.com, the site she does with you.

You took advantage of that. You are the asshole in this case, pure and simple. You think because you're a "big man" in this business no one will care.

Well, I care. You fucked over a member of my family. So I say, "fuck you!"

I bought the content that you deemed "too shitty" to buy. Look at the replies before you came into this thread. That content was used to create SimplySkylar.com . It looks like other webmasters didn't find Kristin's content to be "shitty". You used that as an excuse so that you didn't have to pay her for the content along with the "referral fee".
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:29 PM   #40
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Nice drama thread
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:29 PM   #41
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oh oh! Drama on this thread...
That's the cool part about GFY, you cum in to see a single girl site, and get some drama thrown in for free...
I love GFY!
I don't see any drama here, except that Donovan has made his feelings clear about me. Thats fine. Come to Phoenix and have fun with everyone at my party, or shittalk me and cause trouble. Choose ONE. Looks like Donnie has chosen. I wish I'd have known what kind of guy he was before I tried to do business with him. Good luck with your site Donnie.

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Old 03-11-2005, 07:32 PM   #42
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Looks like Donnie has chosen. I wish I'd have known what kind of guy he was before I tried to do business with him. Good luck with your site Donnie.

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Chosen to say "it's not okay to fuck over a member of my family just because you throw big parties and have webmasters kissing your ass"?

Chosen not to kiss your ass and overlook a very unprofessional decision on your part?

You fucking betcha! I'll take family over "popular partiers" every single fucking time.
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:35 PM   #43
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To clear up the confusion:

Kristin = my cousin = Tiffany Paris
Brandy = Skylar = Nikki Grinds



and Silent bob= tired= off to the bar

Can't wait to meet Nikki in PHX Steve!
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:38 PM   #44
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I actually like Donovans tour more then Nicki's.

Anyone gonna test em both?
Curious about what the ratio will be.
I think hands down though Skylar design will outperfrm the Nikki design.

Still -5 points for the odd name. "SkyLar".
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Chosen to say "it's not okay to fuck over a member of my family just because you throw big parties and have webmasters kissing your ass"?

Chosen not to kiss your ass and overlook a very unprofessional decision on your part?

You fucking betcha! I'll take family over "popular partiers" every single fucking time.

Christ man, you are talking about "unprofessional behavior" here? Hilarious! I'm off to party in Cancun, I'm sure girls will be lining up to work with you, you are the Savior from the Evil Lightspeed Empire.

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Evryone take 2 secs off from drama and check out this

http://www.gayoutsourcing.com

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Christ man, you are talking about "unprofessional behavior" here? Hilarious! I'm off to party in Cancun, I'm sure girls will be lining up to work with you, you are the Savior from the Evil Lightspeed Empire.

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Look at post #35. You indicate you WILL start the site after promising not to do so. And you ALSO indicate that you WON'T start the site you promised not to start (I guess you were just testing our your designer's skills).

Which is it? You voted FOR starting it... before you voted AGAINST it?

Are you really Steve Kerry?
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Old 03-11-2005, 07:45 PM   #48
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Fighting over that girl..? I might have different taste but i dont see nothing special there...

More attractive on Lightspeed site though...

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Fighting over that girl..? I might have different taste but i dont see nothing special there...

More attractive on Lightspeed site though...

I hit it 2x
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reach for the skylar.
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