Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Brujah

but you BELIEVE it. That's the problem. You believe shit without fact-checking, and at the same time accusing everyone else who doesn't automatically believe every single link you post as sheep.

as long as it goes against what the mainstream media is reporting dorks like this guy suck it up with a straw with no thought whatsoever.

oh and 50 conspiracy tards..

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Again I don't see any major conspiracy in someone his age having that arsenal, the OP was the one asking that.

At this point I don't either. I'm surprised at the range of Holmes' arsenal and defense gear, but if he had the money from a logical source like student loans (and as someone else mentioned, credit cards) then it's not such a mystery.

We don't know what car he had - could have been a 1k clunker.

We don't know - there isn't an official version out yet.

This Natural News guy asks some interesting questions that might become valid or just stupid in the end.

Every psychopathic killer has been called a "quiet man" (reminds me of a great Rodney Dangerfield routine on that actually lol).

Anybody can shoot into a crowd with a semi-auto and a shotgun and hit *something* or someone... I'm surprised there weren't more deaths actually.

Building bombs and booby traps is probably as easy Googling for them or getting The Anarchist Cookbook from Amazon. I mean, this guy was very bright...

Anyhow I just thought it interesting that a similar setup in a domestic environment (they even had a bunker/bomb shelter in the house) occurred at about the same time, as the Holmes' apartment rigging was discovered a week after the Canadian one...

Saying he had/used student loans is just my saying it's more likely than he was a Manchurian Candidate lab-rat, especially at this point.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by SBJ

http://www.stltoday.com/tacticalgear...9bb30f31a.html

Wow how could a guy that drives a $20k car afford a $100 bullet proof vest???


Wear your tinfoil hats with pride but remember they aren't bullet proof from sick people like this guy.

ok it looks like that vest isn't bullet proof but other links in this thread show you that you can get them online for $300 to 600..

Here is the vest he bought from that store and it looks more for carrying mags and guns
http://tacticalgear.com/blackhawk-urban-assault-vest

[DWB]

Originally Posted by peterk

yes because when people do very odd irrational psychotic things, all of their actions should make sense and add up

He clearly planned all of this out, so that is why I am surprised he warned them. If he was flying by the seat of his pants, I'd agree with you. But to put in the effort to learn how to booby trap and then do it, this guy thought this out.

I'm still waiting to see if his warning is part of the plan. The guy may be crazy, but stupid he is not.

[2012]

the conspiracy guys hate the mainstream guys "info"
the mainstream guys hate the conspiracy guys "info"

you're a sheep.
no, you're a sheep.

sometimes you get interesting facts from listening to both sides. ever think of that? what a nice day it is outside

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by 2012

the conspiracy guys hate the mainstream guys "info"
the mainstream guys hate the conspiracy guys "info"

you're a sheep.
no, you're a sheep.

sometimes you get interesting facts from listening to both sides. ever think of that? what a nice day it is outside

The truth is hardly ever revealed to the masses. Just look at how dumb people are. Whatever is spewed to the masses is NOT the truth. This has been going on since the dawn of time

[JohnnyClips]

Dressing up like the joker and shooting people at a movie theater (a few weeks before the UN gun treaty) is not exactly what someone would define as "normal" behavior and certainly isn't a random act of violence like getting into a bar fight.

Stop calling people "conspiracy theorists" when they ask questions and put pieces together. MK-ultra was real and when discovered back then the CIA destroyed most of the documents. Imagine the shit they can do now?

[Brujah]

It isn't "conspiracy theorists" by asking questions. It's "conspiracy theorists" by accepting everything people like Alex Jones says is true, or other media sources, without bothering to fact-check. Then, if you ask questions about even these sources, people like ninavain (Everette) and JohnnyClips call you sheep because you don't automatically believe whatever their kooks say.

[2012]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Dressing up like the joker and shooting people at a movie theater

You seem to be really getting off on this tragedy

[2012]

Originally Posted by Brujah

It isn't "conspiracy theorists" by asking questions. It's "conspiracy theorists" by accepting everything people like Alex Jones says is true, or other media sources, without bothering to fact-check. Then, if you ask questions about even these sources, people like ninavain (Everette) and JohnnyClips call you sheep because you don't automatically believe whatever their kooks say.

I noticed you asked one guy for some facts and he just got mad and stomped back to his room to stand in the corner with his bunkbed hair

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

It isn't "conspiracy theorists" by asking questions. It's "conspiracy theorists" by accepting everything people like Alex Jones says is true, or other media sources, without bothering to fact-check. Then, if you ask questions about even these sources, people like ninavain (Everette) and JohnnyClips call you sheep because you don't automatically believe whatever their kooks say.

No- you have it ass backwards

No one believes anything Alex Jones and David Icke and guys like that say. However most of what they say IS true and always comes out later that the mainstream media was either covering it up or just lying. You can't believe the mainstream it's a fucking joke. Time to grow up because if you can't see it by now then there is no hope

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by 2012

You seem to be really getting off on this tragedy

What are you talking about?

[JohnnyClips]

Someone let the gunman into the movie: http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252...movie-theater-

[2012]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What are you talking about?

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

No- you have it ass backwards

No one believes anything Alex Jones and David Icke and guys like that say. However most of what they say IS true and always comes out later that the mainstream media was either covering it up or just lying. You can't believe the mainstream it's a fucking joke. Time to grow up because if you can't see it by now then there is no hope

Most of what they say is false. You should always be skeptical. Fact-check everything and look for real evidence and observations and experiments you can repeat.

I've repeatedly observed you and ninavain accepting dubious sources without requiring proof of any kind. You accept it because you want to believe it, or already believe it, and accuse everyone else as being sheep for needing more evidence or wanting to research further.

[GregE]

I figured it would be at least a couple of weeks, if not longer, before "truthers" started coming out of the woodwork.

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Most of what they say is false. You should always be skeptical. Fact-check everything and look for real evidence and observations and experiments you can repeat.

I've repeatedly observed you and ninavain accepting dubious sources without requiring proof of any kind. You accept it because you want to believe it, or already believe it, and accuse everyone else as being sheep for needing more evidence or wanting to research further.

What about what they say is "false".

Alex Jones doesn't even delve in deep at all into the matrix. He just goes off articles on Drudge. Not sure why people get mad at this...yea the world doesn't work the way you thought it does OMG ITS SCARY!

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by GregE

I figured it would be at least a couple of weeks, if not longer, before "truthers" started coming out of the woodwork.

How dare people want the truth

Don't talk about mind control because it doesn't exist (even though it does) but let's just call people "truthers" who mention that

[wehateporn]

Has anyone got any proof that this wasn't staged? If so I'd be interested to see the evidence.

A few weeks back when I saw the UN Treaty date, I did wonder what event was going to be used in an attempt to alter public opinion.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What about what they say is "false".

Alex Jones doesn't even delve in deep at all into the matrix. He just goes off articles on Drudge. Not sure why people get mad at this...yea the world doesn't work the way you thought it does OMG ITS SCARY!

See above, there have been HUNDREDS of lies from Alex Jones, twisting and distorting truth for his own needs. Alex Jones is NOT a credible source. He used to be much more bizarre, like David Icke. You have it backwards I think, because once he cleaned things up a slight bit Drudge started to use him as a source for his headlines. That alone doesn't indicate that Alex Jones is true, as I've already shown you Drudge is quick triggered and often posts inaccurate information.

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

See above, there have been HUNDREDS of lies from Alex Jones, twisting and distorting truth for his own needs. Alex Jones is NOT a credible source. He used to be much more bizarre, like David Icke. You have it backwards I think, because once he cleaned things up a slight bit Drudge started to use him as a source for his headlines. That alone doesn't indicate that Alex Jones is true, as I've already shown you Drudge is quick triggered and often posts inaccurate information.

Examples?

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Has anyone got any proof that this wasn't staged? If so I'd be interested to see the evidence.

A few weeks back when I saw the UN Treaty date, I did wonder what event was going to be used in an attempt to alter public opinion.

Yea seems really odd as usual....and they all have that weird grin of their face

[Monotony]

Colorado

[MediaGuy]

Now this is very interesting:

"As I was sitting down to get my seat, I noticed that a person came up to the front row, the front right, sat down, and as credits were going, it looked like he got a phone call. He went out toward the emergency exit doorway, which I thought was unusual to take a phone call. And it seemed like he probably pried it open, or probably did not let it latch all the way. As soon as the movie started, somebody came in, all black, gas mask, armor, and threw a gas can into the audience, and it went off, and then there were gunshots that took place."

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252...movie-theater-

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Now this is very interesting:



http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252...movie-theater-

The plot thickens

[wehateporn]

17th May 2012 - DHS-FBI Bulletin: Terrorist Interest in Attacking Theaters and Mass Gatherings

http://publicintelligence.net/dhs-fb...eater-attacks/

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Yea seems really odd as usual....and they all have that weird grin of their face

[GregE]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Yea seems really odd as usual....and they all have that weird grin of their face

That part is true.

Here's the squirrel who shot George Wallace way back when.

[Brujah]

Interesting, so you can't trust anyone that seems happy?

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Interesting, so you can't trust anyone that seems happy?

Man you really don't get it do you?

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Man you really don't get it do you?

I sure do, you grasp at anything normal and make it bizarre. Someone smiling must be up to something, or insane.

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

I sure do, you grasp at anything normal and make it bizarre. Someone smiling must be up to something, or insane.

They all have that smirk on their face

[Brujah]

Why is it so bizarre for johnnyclips or ninavain to consider that there are crazy people in the world who do shit like this, without it having to be some CIA or Alex Jones conspiracy?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

They all have that smirk on their face

ALL?

Man, this thread delivers

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Why is it so bizarre for johnnyclips or ninavain to consider that there are crazy people in the world who do shit like this, without it having to be some CIA or Alex Jones conspiracy?

"Crazy" people do drugs, live on the street and yell random things. They don't dress up like the joker or bain, throw gas canisters into a movie theater and kill innocent people.

[arock10]

It's a liberal conspiracy to get guns banned. Or a conspiracy by Hulu and Netflix to get people streaming videos from their home versus going to the theater. Or it's a conspiracy to top Heath ledger dying conspiracy. Or the shooter was gay for Heath ledger. Surprisingly enough Johnny Clips didn't do it..... Or did he??????????????

[Phillipmcd1]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Examples?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxt_bEDdTTc
How many times has Alex said a terrorist attack is about to happen in ____ months. Alex has a way out by saying well it didn't happen because he called attention to it. He's a brilliant businessman I'll admit

[Jel]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

["Crazy" people ...] They don't dress up like the joker or bain, throw gas canisters into a movie theater and kill innocent people.

Yup, it's only the sane people that do this

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Phillipmcd1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxt_bEDdTTc
How many times has Alex said a terrorist attack is about to happen in ____ months. Alex has a way out by saying well it didn't happen because he called attention to it. He's a brilliant businessman I'll admit

Umm most of that happened and not many of those were Alex himself- it was guests that were speculating and were very accurate

[gfydrama]

Originally Posted by Brujah

I sure do, you grasp at anything normal and make it bizarre. Someone smiling must be up to something, or insane.

What they are talking about with the grin is the usually "out of place" of the emotion.
This is common among people who suffer mental illness like schizophrenia.
Often these people commit violence because they lack the proper emotional attachment
to reality.

You can ignore it if you like, but I can tell you that I have known mentally ill people
that can become violent. It is so in their eyes/face way before it ever happens.

Deniers of this symptom become the victims and I always say "couldn't you tell he was nuts?"

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by gfydrama

What they are talking about with the grin is the usually "out of place" of the emotion.
This is common among people who suffer mental illness like schizophrenia.
Often these people commit violence because they lack the proper emotional attachment
to reality.

You can ignore it if you like, but I can tell you that I have known mentally ill people
that can become violent. It is so in their eyes/face way before it ever happens.

Deniers of this symptom become the victims and I always say "couldn't you tell he was nuts?"

Exactly

Well said

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by gfydrama

What they are talking about with the grin is the usually "out of place" of the emotion.

Where's an out of place grin or smile? They aren't showing that. They're showing a normal photo where people usually smile. For example one above was a regular photo, not taken at a funeral.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Exactly

Well said

But... you just said ALL these people weren't crazy (mentally ill)? In which case what gfydrama is saying has no bearing one way or the other on/with your POV

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Where's an out of place grin or smile? They aren't showing that. They're showing a normal photo where people usually smile. For example one above was a regular photo, not taken at a funeral.

Jesus christ do you even have more than 1 brain cell?

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Jel

But... you just said ALL these people weren't crazy (mentally ill)? In which case what gfydrama is saying has no bearing one way or the other on/with your POV

What are you talking about?

What I said is that these types of shooting/terror attacks/etc are WAY out of the "norms"....BEYOND "crazy". Crazy people don't blow themselves up or shoot up malls or theaters. There is something else at work here.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Jesus christ do you even have more than 1 brain cell?

Do you realize this isn't an answer? I'm not sure you do. People who respond like this usually do so because they have nothing of importance or substance to contribute. If you have the truth on your side, it should be immediately easy to respond with the answer. Since you have no answer, you have to respond with an insult instead.

You prove my point, and you are wrong. Thank you.

[Jel]

right, but gfydrama said these crazy, mentally ill people were the ones with the out of place grins. You're saying on one hand these people aren't crazies, but nodding your head eagerly at his description of the out of place grins crazies have when committing violent acts.

Aside from the fact that of course crazy fucks shoot random people, and blow shit up.

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Do you realize this isn't an answer? I'm not sure you do. People who respond like this usually do so because they have nothing of importance or substance to contribute. If you have the truth on your side, it should be immediately easy to respond with the answer. Since you have no answer, you have to respond with an insult instead.

You prove my point, and you are wrong. Thank you.

Look at the pictures. Their "smirks" do not fit their emotions, as previously stated. Way out of touch with reality.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Look at the pictures. Their "smirks" do not fit their emotions, as previously stated. Way out of touch with reality.

No you have to display a photo where a smile or grin is out of context to the photo. You can't. I have a zillion photos of myself smiling and grinning. That doesn't make me a psychopath.

[JohnnyClips]

Originally Posted by Jel

right, but gfydrama said these crazy, mentally ill people were the ones with the out of place grins. You're saying on one hand these people aren't crazies, but nodding your head eagerly at his description of the out of place grins crazies have when committing violent acts.

Aside from the fact that of course crazy fucks shoot random people, and blow shit up.

You're playing semantics here and not making sense. These people are victims of mind control. I can read it on their face