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Old 06-21-2012, 10:41 AM   #51
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I'm going to assume that this comment was indirectly directed at me since I'm the only one who mentioned AIPAC and the billions of dollars we give to Israel every year, so let me make myself clear: I believe that Israel has an absolute right to defend its national interests, which they are fully capable of doing by themselves; however, they are of no value to the United States, they are completely irrelevant to US national interests, and their American citizen supporters are disloyal and involve us in activities that compromise US security and corrupt the political process. Let Israel launch rockets in to Palestine all god damn day if that's what it takes for them to defend themselves, but don't try to involve us in your bullshit. I'm sure this is a sentiment that the libertarian posters in this thread can agree with - If you want to go live in an unstable region of the world where you're completely surrounded by people who want to kill you because you believe that God promised this worthless piece of desolate land for you, great! Go for it - that's on you. I just don't think they're worth an American life or an American dollar.
Actually it was not directed to you, but let me entertain your reply. Israel is just a pawn for the United States. And so are all of the other countries that receive foreign aids.
In regards to the $3B the US gives to Israel, there are many strings attached to that "aid", you can verify all of this by yourself. US gives, Israel receives, BUT Israel must buy certain product at "special" prices --> translated, it means the US is subsidizing American weapons manufacturers (for the most part) so they can sell US made equipment and thus employ US Citizens who works in the manufacturers' factories. In exchange for that aid, Israel must also cooperate with the US intelligence agencies and turn over any equipment seized from its enemies. Furthermore, Israel also cooperates with the US in the manufacturing of advanced weaponry (Arrow missiles, Iron Dome and more recently cyber warfare weapons such as stuxnet or flame).

As you can see this is a win/win situation for both countries. As far as political interest meddling; the US is the Godfather and Israel has chosen to "play" in the US' shadow. Most Arab countries have chosen to play under the umbrella of their Godfather, Russia. China is also vying to become a Godfather. Not so long ago, France and the UK were Godfathers.

It's all about being friend with the right person and thus get protection. It works at the kindergarten courtyard level up to the international strategic level. Sure it is an over simplified statement but this is GFY after all...

This is a simple game, if you put your bias aside, you will clearly understand what is going on here.
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I'm going to assume that this comment was indirectly directed at me since I'm the only one who mentioned AIPAC and the billions of dollars we give to Israel every year, so let me make myself clear: I believe that Israel has an absolute right to defend its national interests, which they are fully capable of doing by themselves; however, they are of no value to the United States, they are completely irrelevant to US national interests, and their American citizen supporters are disloyal and involve us in activities that compromise US security and corrupt the political process. Let Israel launch rockets in to Palestine all god damn day if that's what it takes for them to defend themselves, but don't try to involve us in your bullshit. I'm sure this is a sentiment that the libertarian posters in this thread can agree with - If you want to go live in an unstable region of the world where you're completely surrounded by people who want to kill you because you believe that God promised this worthless piece of desolate land for you, great! Go for it - that's on you. I just don't think they're worth an American life or an American dollar.

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I'm going to assume that this comment was indirectly directed at me since I'm the only one who mentioned AIPAC and the billions of dollars we give to Israel every year, so let me make myself clear: I believe that Israel has an absolute right to defend its national interests, which they are fully capable of doing by themselves; however, they are of no value to the United States, they are completely irrelevant to US national interests, and their American citizen supporters are disloyal and involve us in activities that compromise US security and corrupt the political process. Let Israel launch rockets in to Palestine all god damn day if that's what it takes for them to defend themselves, but don't try to involve us in your bullshit. I'm sure this is a sentiment that the libertarian posters in this thread can agree with - If you want to go live in an unstable region of the world where you're completely surrounded by people who want to kill you because you believe that God promised this worthless piece of desolate land for you, great! Go for it - that's on you. I just don't think they're worth an American life or an American dollar.
As a Jewish person that totally supports Israel.... I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT.



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Actually it was not directed to you, but let me entertain your reply. Israel is just a pawn for the United States. And so are all of the other countries that receive foreign aids.
In regards to the $3B the US gives to Israel, there are many strings attached to that "aid", you can verify all of this by yourself. US gives, Israel receives, BUT Israel must buy certain product at "special" prices --> translated, it means the US is subsidizing American weapons manufacturers (for the most part) so they can sell US made equipment and thus employ US Citizens who works in the manufacturers' factories. In exchange for that aid, Israel must also cooperate with the US intelligence agencies and turn over any equipment seized from its enemies. Furthermore, Israel also cooperates with the US in the manufacturing of advanced weaponry (Arrow missiles, Iron Dome and more recently cyber warfare weapons such as stuxnet or flame).

As you can see this is a win/win situation for both countries. As far as political interest meddling; the US is the Godfather and Israel has chosen to "play" in the US' shadow. Most Arab countries have chosen to play under the umbrella of their Godfather, Russia. China is also vying to become a Godfather. Not so long ago, France and the UK were Godfathers.

It's all about being friend with the right person and thus get protection. It works at the kindergarten courtyard level up to the international strategic level. Sure it is an over simplified statement but this is GFY after all...

This is a simple game, if you put your bias aside, you will clearly understand what is going on here.
What David says is also true and is the political reality.... (however as a Libertarian I don't agree with the government subsidizing industry or foriegn aid of ANY kind... Let people do it individually)




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I definitley think the layers of the onion are being peeled off of Israel. Give it 10 years & things will start to unravel for them
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As a Jewish person that totally supports Israel.... I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT.
Would you agree then that the US should stop using it's veto power when the UN passes resolutions against Israel?

Just trying to find some common ground...
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Would you agree then that the US should stop using it's veto power when the UN passes resolutions against Israel?

Just trying to find some common ground...
As if jews give two shits about veto. Fucking chosen people, you know.
Did they give one shit when developed nuclear weapons? No! But fuck if Iranians touch that token.
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Would you agree then that the US should stop using it's veto power when the UN passes resolutions against Israel?

Just trying to find some common ground...
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As if jews give two shits about veto. Fucking chosen people, you know.
Did they give one shit when developed nuclear weapons? No! But fuck if Iranians touch that token.

How about the resolutions against Iran or Syria?
Who hangs gays for being gays?
Who is systematically slaughtering children to bring fears to its opponents?
Who is trying to build a nuclear weapon and said what they will do once they have it?

Are you too consumed by hatred that you are blind to what is happening?
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How about the resolutions against Iran or Syria?
Blocked by Russia and China. They don't want Syria do be a fucking mess like Iraq. They're cautious about intervention and rightly so.

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The Saudis, Afghanistan? Oh wait they're our buddies.

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Who is systematically slaughtering children to bring fears to its opponents?
You're right here, the regime has been killing protesters and they need to be ousted.

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Who is trying to build a nuclear weapon and said what they will do once they have it?
Rhetoric. They won't ever strike Israel as it would result in their entire country being wiped out. They are not suicidal.

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Wow, this is got to be the biggest crock of shit I've ever read about Israel on this forum. Let me give you the short answer, America doesn't need Israel and the only reason we're allies with them, American (AIPAC) Jew influence.

We give Israel much more, 3 billion in federal loan guarantees alone. So this stipulation on how/what Israel spends is total BS. Israel has proven time and time again, they're not our friends.

Jonathan Jay Pollard an Israeli spy sent naval intelligence information to Israel for years as the Israelis then sold it to the Soviets costing Americans 100's of billions to counter. In 2002, Netanyahu visited Pollard in prison, and, in 2007, claimed that if he were to be elected Prime Minister he would try to bring about Pollard's release.

In June 2011, 70 members of the Israeli parliament (the Knesset) lent their support to the Pollard family's request that President Obama allow Pollard to visit his ailing father, Morris. When his father died soon after, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced Israel's official support for a new Pollard family request that would allow Jonathan Pollard to attend his father's funeral. These requests were both ultimately denied by the U.S. government.



cooperates?.. when Americans sent Israel the new patriot missile system to defend them against Saddam scud missile attracts, what did Israel do? Took them apart, and sold the reversed engineered information to China.

Israel demands (like a spoiled child) Americans PAY and do something to audit Iran's nuclear process when they themselves completely ignore or even acknowledge their own nuclear program.

Now I've met some decent Jews in my life and actually prefer Israelis, but I make it clear, we can be friendly, but we will never be friends because I am not a jew and simply could never trust a jew.
Your arguments are so pathetic and weak that it is laughable!
No need to waste time here arguing with people who are not willing to entertain a different point of view.
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but I make it clear, we can be friendly, but we will never be friends because I am not a jew and simply could never trust a jew.
...and there it is. You "could never trust a jew". I think that sort of bigotry speaks for itself, don't you all? Take a good look folks, and when you see hatred of Israel on this board, remember what it's usually really all about....


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Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, for your further pleasure and edification, yet more of the statements of a classic bigot. One who is SO DEEP in his bigotry, that he thinks that it's just a "fact" that "everyone knows". (I'm still wondering why he has a picture of a Jew in his avatar... is he just being ironic, you think?)

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but I make it clear, we can be friendly, but we will never be friends because I am not a jew and simply could never trust a jew.

Please like anyone needs to "take a good look"? Every non-Jews knows, never put yourself in a position or even think a Jew will support you over a fellow Jew. Just being honest and if you thinks that bigotry, you're a fool.
(Feel free to insert whatever ethnic group you like here in order to see the picture more clearly..... [and this is the biggest reason why Jews need to have their own country where they don't have to rely on another government to protect them. Eventually, people like this rise to power, and then they appeal to the lowest in the country to support their "pogroms"])




His "honesty" is actually quite refreshing. Most anti-semites hide behind "politics" when they talk about hating Jews.




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Please like anyone needs to "take a good look"? Every non-Jews knows, never put yourself in a position or even think a Jew will support you over a fellow Jew. Just being honest and if you think that bigotry, you're a fool.

Stop avoiding reality, and start facing the consequences of having avoided reality for so long. You are a BIGOT!
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...and there it is. You "could never trust a jew". I think that sort of bigotry speaks for itself, don't you all? Take a good look folks, and when you see hatred of Israel on this board, remember what it's usually really all about....


Congratulations. You win a cookie.



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yeah, thats a bit much. you can't whitewash people like that. you can't trust some people from every ethnicity, religion, color, whatever...
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...and there it is. You "could never trust a jew". I think that sort of bigotry speaks for itself, don't you all? Take a good look folks, and when you see hatred of Israel on this board, remember what it's usually really all about....


Congratulations. You win a cookie.



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you didn't answer his question

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19017772&postcount=56
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yeah Israel is the one protecting itself...



And it's till not enough :

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_1...ion-by-israel/
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I thought it would be an interesting question considering he's a libertarian but also pro-Israel.
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While we allkeep busy ourselfs with these kinda bs, someone here and there makes money, no jellossy just telling...
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I thought it would be an interesting question considering he's a libertarian but also pro-Israel.
To answer your question, I think that the UN is a joke. It's infested with horrific leaders who do not accept or respect democracy in any way within their own countries, (or in other countries for that matter), yet are given a voice and a vote in a "democratic" institution to give them power over others. Some of these despots and dictators are even heads of committees on "human rights". The UN is an attempt by the statists to work as a stepping stone to acceptance of a one world government. Personally I believe that the larger a government becomes, both in terms of territory and population under it's control, the less representative it is of the people subject to it. Government needs to be kept as strictly local as possible in order to accurately reflect the wishes and will and freedoms of a people.


I think the US should stop funding it, and let France take it.



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I thought it would be an interesting question considering he's a libertarian but also pro-Israel.
It was a good question, shame he completely sidestepped it.
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The UN is an attempt by the statists to work as a stepping stone to acceptance of a one world government..
As a Jewish individual you would know well what occurs in the absence of diversified governments. It's like a murderer living next door to your average joe. It's the day to day of the Palestinians and the Israelis. You need to be able to compare and contrast. The removal of that ability is where that stone steps too. Prevent it at all cost.
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It was a good question, shame he completely sidestepped it.
Please look up one post from yours....




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Do you REALLY think the army is flying around gaza doing RANDOM airstrikes for no reason? seriously.
It might not be the smartest thing to do, there might be innocent casualties, etc etc. Those air strikes are not targeting innocent civilians living peacefully minding their own business like you and me, unlike those rockets hitting israel, they aren't targeting military bases or anything, they are targeting civilians. see the difference?

i can't believe i got carried away in this conversation.
yea sure. Just like everytime the US bombs an arab country, citicizens never die because it all happens so accurate. Right?

Maybe you can explain the difference to the families of the dead citizens everywhere. I dont think they care about the label a bombing is given. Same shit.
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As a Jewish individual you would know well what occurs in the absence of diversified governments. It's like a murderer living next door to your average joe. It's the day to day of the Palestinians and the Israelis. You need to be able to compare and contrast. The removal of that ability is where that stone steps too. Prevent it at all cost.
Sorry, but I believe that world domination by one government is NOT a cost I can live with, and in the end, I don't think any of us would want that kind of misery and slavery. I would rather take my chances with much more local representation, and minimalist government.




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I wonder how Jesus "turn the other cheek" & Love thy neighbor" Christ would feel about your blasphemy, using his identity in you avatar and spewing words of hate? Enjoy hell.

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lol at people struggling to defend israel

just 10 years ago a conversation like this would have been unheard of...the US people's support for israel has been so strong for the past 60+ years but in the past 4 or 5 with the rise of social media and people seeing what is actually happening the support for israel is dropping FAST

enjoy it while you can israel - soon you will have to be a real democracy just like everywhere else in the world and before you know it you WILL be run by Arabs. Hopefully the Arabs learn from their struggles and don't repeat the inhumane treatment to the Jews like the Jews repeated the inhumane treatment they received at Nazi hands.
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lol at people struggling to defend israel

just 10 years ago a conversation like this would have been unheard of...the US people's support for israel has been so strong for the past 60+ years but in the past 4 or 5 with the rise of social media and people seeing what is actually happening the support for israel is dropping FAST

enjoy it while you can israel - soon you will have to be a real democracy just like everywhere else in the world and before you know it you WILL be run by Arabs. Hopefully the Arabs learn from their struggles and don't repeat the inhumane treatment to the Jews like the Jews repeated the inhumane treatment they received at Nazi hands.
I bet you were masturbating while writing your crap...
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Jews killed 6 million people? wow, news to me. They used gas chambers on people? News to me. Performed illegal medical experiments on prisoners? News to me. You're going to hell? Not news.

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.. the Jews repeated the inhumane treatment they received at Nazi hands.
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Sorry, but I believe that world domination by one government is NOT a cost I can live with, and in the end, I don't think any of us would want that kind of misery and slavery. I would rather take my chances with much more local representation, and minimalist government.




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Precisely my point as well, those negative conditions can only exist when the alternative is shielded from the recipients. Local and diverse is the alternative to monopolized horror. No doubt on the same page with that, rest assured. A one world government would make Nazi Germany centric.

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Now I've met some decent Jews in my life and actually prefer Israelis, but I make it clear, we can be friendly, but we will never be friends because I am not a jew and simply could never trust a jew.

At least you are honest about your position instead of hiding behind terms like "zionist" and "neocon" like poor confused BFT3K. Personally I have no problem with your position...... you don't like Jews and you are honest about it...... it is pitiful mutts like BFT3K who are so dishonest about it that bother me.


Personally I dont like Chechnyans, Latvians, Gypsys, French, Italians and Pakistanis (for the record).
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Israel is just a pawn for the United States.
LOL @ you being stupid.

The united states is the pawn dipshit.
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Jews killed 6 million people? wow, news to me. They used gas chambers on people? News to me. Performed illegal medical experiments on prisoners? News to me. You're going to hell? Not news.
Yeah Israel has gassed Palestinians and has kept over 7 million living in fear of their lives daily. As afraid as people from the US are to be killed by terrorists the people living in the Palestinian Territories are at LEAST a THOUSAND times more likely to be killed by Israelis.

I'm not religious so I'm not sure where you're going with your hell thing lol

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I bet you were masturbating while writing your crap...
unlike supporters of israel i dont get sexually excited when thinking of all the people that israel has killed over the years
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Yeah Israel has gassed Palestinians and has kept over 7 million living in fear of their lives daily. As afraid as people from the US are to be killed by terrorists the people living in the Palestinian Territories are at LEAST a THOUSAND times more likely to be killed by Israelis.

I'm not religious so I'm not sure where you're going with your hell thing lol



unlike supporters of israel i dont get sexually excited when thinking of all the people that israel has killed over the years
When you write shit, try at least to do like the other little nazis here to post something somewhat believable!

The only fucker who's gassed anyone was saddam your cousin.

Where do you get 7 millions from? Last I heard there were 2.5 millions palos living in Judea and Samaria that they occupy!

The only people living in fear are the 1 millions Israelis who have to leave under the constant barrage of palos rockets.

Now go fuck yourself with a shawarma you piece of worthless scum!!!
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To answer your question, I think that the UN is a joke. It's infested with horrific leaders who do not accept or respect democracy in any way within their own countries, (or in other countries for that matter), yet are given a voice and a vote in a "democratic" institution to give them power over others. Some of these despots and dictators are even heads of committees on "human rights". The UN is an attempt by the statists to work as a stepping stone to acceptance of a one world government. Personally I believe that the larger a government becomes, both in terms of territory and population under it's control, the less representative it is of the people subject to it. Government needs to be kept as strictly local as possible in order to accurately reflect the wishes and will and freedoms of a people.


I think the US should stop funding it, and let France take it.



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lets try this one more time

THE QUESTION:

" should US stop using it's veto power when the UN passes resolutions against Israel ? "

THE ANSWER:

YES

NO


please circle ONE only.
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Please look up one post from yours....
I did this is why i said you sidestepped it.

You gave a politician type answer by going on a tangent.

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double post...

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When you write shit, try at least to do like the other little nazis here to post something somewhat believable!

The only fucker who's gassed anyone was saddam your cousin.

Where do you get 7 millions from? Last I heard there were 2.5 millions palos living in Judea and Samaria that they occupy!

The only people living in fear are the 1 millions Israelis who have to leave under the constant barrage of palos rockets.

Now go fuck yourself with a shawarma you piece of worthless scum!!!
http://www.hrw.org/news/2009/03/25/i...nce-war-crimes

4 million people living in the Palestinian territories + those living in refugee camps around that area.
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I think its ironic when porn guys defend countries that would execute them for being involved in porn
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I find your comment amusing since Palestine isn't a country and nobody is defending it, rather pointing out Israel's hypocrisy
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lets try this one more time

THE QUESTION:

" should US stop using it's veto power when the UN passes resolutions against Israel ? "

THE ANSWER:

YES

NO


please circle ONE only.
Sorry, but I can't believe you are really unable to understand my answer. The UN is not relevent, and mostly criminal, as well as dangerous. The US should veto EVERYTHING, walk out, and throw the entire thing out of NYC. "Voting" in the UN is silly. I don't give crap what a bunch of dictators and despots "vote" on, or pass resolutions about. Why don't you just tell me that I have to choose to kill all right-handed people, or all left-handed people? It's a stupid question. I'll tell you what, since you can't understand my answer, you just choose whatever one would make you happy.



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The UN is the creation of people looking to have their families own us all indefinitely. I know some of them. Violent racists.
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Sorry, but I can't believe you are really unable to understand my answer. The UN is not relevent, and mostly criminal, as well as dangerous. The US should veto EVERYTHING, walk out, and throw the entire thing out of NYC. "Voting" in the UN is silly. I don't give crap what a bunch of dictators and despots "vote" on, or pass resolutions about. Why don't you just tell me that I have to choose to kill all right-handed people, or all left-handed people? It's a stupid question. I'll tell you what, since you can't understand my answer, you just choose whatever one would make you happy.



(sheeesh!)



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Take it its a NO.
Don't know what killing right-handed people has to do with it
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Please like anyone needs to "take a good look"? Every non-Jews knows, never put yourself in a position or even think a Jew will support you over a fellow Jew. Just being honest and if you think that bigotry, you're a fool.
yup that's clearly demonstrable in the 2nd or 3rd grade.
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amazing to see what the US medias are feeding you and to see read what's REALLY happening:
http://ifamericansknew.org/


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yeah Israel is the one protecting itself...



And it's till not enough :

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_1...ion-by-israel/
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At least you are honest about your position instead of hiding behind terms like "zionist" and "neocon" like poor confused BFT3K. Personally I have no problem with your position...... you don't like Jews and you are honest about it...... it is pitiful mutts like BFT3K who are so dishonest about it that bother me.

Personally I dont like Chechnyans, Latvians, Gypsys, French, Italians and Pakistanis (for the record).
So ALL zionists are Jewish?

So ALL neocons are Jewish?

Conflate much?

You're an idiot.
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A bit long, but this guy does get incredibly interesting. Start at 20:00 ..


I'm always willing to listen. It wouldn't surprise me with all the inflated numbers of jews killed. But on such subjects I only form an opinion after reading extensively and here there just isn't enough. Unlike evolution or understanding implicitly some things, it's hard to make any kind of definitive call on something like that. Granted you mention that no one will voice this opinion because it is career suicide.

It's kinda like 40% of jews owning slaves and then flipping it around and getting the NCAAP started to proceed to obscure true facts. If you look on wikipedia it's not mentioned. Several jewish blogs will mention this, it's a point of pride.

For the sake of argument let's say it's true (devil's advocate). It doesn't surprise me if this is the case. Jews are smart, as said before I consider them (as a whole and on average) the smartest people and I don't have an ounce in me. Jews have more forethought and can plan ahead better than most and see things more than others. Being the best makes you more effective at being good and/or bad.
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Great post. Here's my take on the whole thing. Hypocrisy is why Jews are so badly hated. Growing up in a heavily populated Jewish area and living on a kibbutz who's founding members were Polish Warsaw Ghetto survivors. The Kibbutz, Kibbutz Lohamei Hagetaot is were Simon Weisonthel first launched his idea to investigate Nazi war criminals. In short, I've seen lot's of real tattoos and heard "real" stories by people who have absolutely nothing to gain by bullshitting.

My point? A Christian by birth and a staunch agnostic by choice who dislikes all organized religions. I've been accused of being a bigot and antisemitic and proud to wear this label issued by the ignorant or the afraid. Matter of fact, if you think it's bad pointing out these Jewish hypocrisies, it pales in comparison to morally bankrupted born again Christians, and closet homosexuals.

But let's start with Jews first during the time of the Holocaust. I find it hard to believe any concentration camps or Auschwitz were initially designed to be extermination camps ie., final solution? Why would the Germans transport so many Jews that far east just to kill them? Meaning, the Germans were the most efficient people on the planet at the time. Why would they spend so much time, money, and badly needed resources to transport Jews that far east when it's more cost effective to kill them at origin?

Why do Jews try to destroy anyones reputation who challenges any (so called) facts about the Holocaust? It gets to point where it's ridiculous as professional historians who actually revise facts, like 4 million Jews we're NOT killed at Auschwitz, labeled, Holocaust deniers if NOT Jewish.

I'll tell you why. It's a way for Israel to get guilt money from other countries. That's it, but anyone tries to challenge Jews on this will get hostility. Why? Because it's a fucking racket and Jews never learn as I'll prove it to you.

Prior to the war Jews ran the soviet secret police as they killed millions of non-Jews (link provided above) in the Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Poland. The Germans rolled in pushed back the Soviets and to their astonishment, watched how locals just started killing Jews. Especially in the Ukraine.

We all know what happened next, horrific things to the Jews, the Holocaust. You'd think after this any Jew anywhere would be a bit more sensitive towards others. NOPE.

The 1956 Hungarian Uprising:



Finally, I don't hate Jews, I hate hypocrisy, but growing up with Jews and living in Israel, this short video truly explains my opinion the best. I simply don't have the ability to ever trust Jews and neither should any other non-Jew. In general, they've proven to be habitual liars.
it's in leviticus where one of the edicts was alway to be honest to
each other or something along those lines, it has been interrupted to mean that it only applies to
jews. Of course not all jews do this, it's mainly your ZZ Top jew. However, I found a pirate once who was from israel, sent him
an email telling him I was a jew (I had one of my jewish friends do this in hebrew) & asked him to stop simply based on the fact that he was stealing from another jew. He stopped.
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