NauhtyAmerica- NaughtyRevenue - this is a joke, right?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by SAC

alot of programs have banned affiliates from using site names in the TLD the last couple years then they end up with nothing but tubes & torrents in the top serps. i just dont fucking get it

That is where logic steps in and asks, who really owns those tubes and torrents?

I'm pretty sure the answer would not be surprising.

[bigluv]

Originally Posted by DWB

That is where logic steps in and asks, who really owns those tubes and torrents?

I'm pretty sure the answer would not be surprising.

When you're dealing with humans on planet earth, its always safer to assume that the bad actor is a fucking moron rather than an evil genius.

[SAC]

remove ALL naughty revenue pictures/videos etc, keep the subdomains live and send the traffic to other programs. THEY CANT DO SHIT

[Naughty-Pages]

that's just messed up...

[HomeFry]

Pretty much any site using a programs official site title is infringing on their intellectual property. Go get some REAL SEO done and send that traffic... otherwise you're just leeching off of their name which is creating competition for them.

That traffic should be 100% theirs simply for having the domain and providing the content. Any schlub with a potato for a brain can put up a site and leech off the official name, but why the fuck should Naughty pay YOU for that?

Get a clue dipshits.

[HighlyIntoxicated]

Originally Posted by HomeFry

Pretty much any site using a programs official site title is infringing on their intellectual property. Go get some REAL SEO done and send that traffic... otherwise you're just leeching off of their name which is creating competition for them.

That traffic should be 100% theirs simply for having the domain and providing the content. Any schlub with a potato for a brain can put up a site and leech off the official name, but why the fuck should Naughty pay YOU for that?

Get a clue dipshits.

I wonder who you work for..

[HomeFry]

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated

I wonder who you work for..

I work for the Government. Retard.

[BigRod]

Originally Posted by HomeFry

I work for the Government. Retard.

Don't they have forums government employees?

[BigRod]

Originally Posted by purescotty

Molly emailed you twice at matuloo@pornadept.com did you not receive the emails? you were disabled until we heard back NOT suspended.

I think there is some confusion here, the keyword is 'sub-domains'.

Please reply to her email or contact me on ICQ 619685760

Scott I think everyone here would like to know, if you consider subdomains infringing your T&C. Do branded subfolders also infringe your T&C?

[SAC]

Has Naughty Revenue responded to this thread?

[Half man, Half Amazing]

Funny that Naughty America does the absolute worst job of policing the piracy of their content, yet they got time to do stupid shit like this.

Naughty America should win a piracy apathy award. Pirates love them cuz everyone knows they don't do jack shit if you pirate their content.

You could set up a table in the NA parking lot selling bootleg DVDs of their shit and they wouldn't lift a finger.

But they got time to fuck with affiliates.

SMH

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by matuloo

So I just received this email :

Dear 3034,

The program administrator disabled your account for the following reason:

Infringing domain - http://collegesugarbabes.pornadept.com http://naughtyamerica.pornadept.com http://myfirstsexteacher.pornadept.com http://naughtybookworms.pornadept.com http://naughtyathletics.pornadept.com/ http://mydadshotgirlfriend.pornadept.com/ http://housewife1on1.pornadept.com/ http://seducedbyacougar.pornadept.com/ http://naughtyrichgirls.pornadept.com/ http://naughtycountrygirls.pornadept.com/ http://socalcoeds.pornadept.com/ http://assmasterpiece.pornadept.com/ http://diaryofamilf.pornadept.com/ http://asian1on1.pornadept.com/ http://naughtyflipside.pornadept.com/ Account temporarily suspended until this is resolved V. Program Restrictions. C. Cybersquatting or Typosquatting You represent and agree that you will not register or attempt to register any domain name (including third level domain names or sub-domains) or URL that is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which La Touraine or another person or entity has intellectual property or other legal rights. http://stats.naughtyamerica.com/exte...page=agreement

Please contact the program administrator if you have any questions.

Thank You,

Naughty Revenue
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.
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So, just to make this straight - after many many years that I have majority of those reviews online, they are suddenly breaking your TOS and a reason to suspend my affiliate account? Some of the reviews are maybe 6 or 7 years old I've been contacted many times in the past by various members of your staff, asking me to update reviews, do new reviews ... even pointing me to urls on my site with reviews that need to be updated. So until now all was ok and now its breaking your TOS?

Looking at the TOS, seems like you are effectively ending cooperation with pretty much all review sites out there, as all of them have the names of you sites in the url in one way or another. So al of you fellow review site owners might prepare to get a similar email. Because the terms say t clear now : "any domain name (including third level domain names or sub-domains) or URL"

Looking at a few of the big ones :

- http://www.thebestporn.com/review/naughtyamerica/ - oops its there
- http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s251/M...x-Teacher.html - damn, there again
- http://reviews.freeones.com/Naughty_America2.shtml - again its in the url
- http://www.adultreviews.com/review/m...x-teacher.html - again the url contains it

I still think this might be caused by a new affiliate manager who was too active or something like that, because I really do not see whats the point in getting your sites delisted from all review sites. I understand you are against people registering domains with your TMs in it and profiting from it, but a review site with a subdomain or the general url using the name of your sites... thats something completely different.

Well, if you really want to take this route, post here so I know I have to start deleting reviews, galleries and all other promo pages I have online promoting naughty america stuff.

Wow. I am a big believer in protecting intellectual property rights, but that is . . . ill-advised on NA's part.

[purescotty]

Any situation that ever arises in relation to Naughty Revenue is handled properly and professionally, and those involved know it, but just like the media you never hear about the POSITIVE side of things.

We go above and beyond for our affiliates, including going to bat for them, even when they are technically in the wrong. If you are one of our affiliates, and I can't stress that enough, if you are a NAUGHTY REVENUE AFFILIATE, and you ever have concerns relating to your account with us we have numerous lines of communication open for you. Email, phone, ICQ, we're here.

I understand many of you use the board as your voice, but trust me, it's not what brings resolution to these type of situations with our program. Communication is, and keep in mind, Molly and myself are here for you. Come to us for support and we will do whatever we can to help resolve your matter.

Thank You

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by purescotty

Any situation that ever arises in relation to Naughty Revenue is handled properly and professionally, and those involved know it, but just like the media you never hear about the POSITIVE side of things.

We go above and beyond for our affiliates, including going to bat for them, even when they are technically in the wrong. If you are one of our affiliates, and I can't stress that enough, if you are a NAUGHTY REVENUE AFFILIATE, and you ever have concerns relating to your account with us we have numerous lines of communication open for you. Email, phone, ICQ, we're here.

I understand many of you use the board as your voice, but trust me, it's not what brings resolution to these type of situations with our program. Communication is, and keep in mind, Molly and myself are here for you. Come to us for support and we will do whatever we can to help resolve your matter.

Thank You

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/

The only place I go to fap to Naughty America.


Anyway, your TOS is outdated and should be updated with the latest practices.

Also, found full scenes on the tubes.

At least explain the actions done to the affiliate that is making some scratch for himself and the program.

Who is responsible for these actions done on a reputable affilate?

[BIGTYMER]

If the big boys can do it so can you.

[SAC]

yes please shut down http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/ affiliate account! ROFL

[bdld]

that's pretty idiotic of NA to do.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand

All legitimate webmasters, stop squatting!
The rankings are to belong to the pirates, who don't give a fuck about your rights/tos site names nor content.

Why have affiliates and yourself in the serps when you can have 100% pirates owning it!

ding ding we have a winner none of these programs can compete with a true pirate tube operation. pimproll has come the closest. you will never get those serps back. they are gone, google and your surfers like the tubes better. anyway a affiliate can get your brand more exposure and sales legally should be fine.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by HomeFry

Pretty much any site using a programs official site title is infringing on their intellectual property. Go get some REAL SEO done and send that traffic... otherwise you're just leeching off of their name which is creating competition for them.

That traffic should be 100% theirs simply for having the domain and providing the content. Any schlub with a potato for a brain can put up a site and leech off the official name, but why the fuck should Naughty pay YOU for that?

Get a clue dipshits.

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/ get a clue dipshit. it makes sense you work for the government, dumb condescending and mislead statements without knowing all the facts.

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by SAC

remove ALL naughty revenue pictures/videos etc, keep the subdomains live and send the traffic to other programs. THEY CANT DO SHIT

I am not here to start any "wars" or create drama, spread hate or anything like that. To me this is business, if they decide they don't want my traffic then so be it. My review site is built on subdomains and I can't change it now, I have my visitors and loyal buyers, if they dont want them, ok. I posted here to get their attention as quickly as possible and possibly resolve it in a matter that's favorable for me, as I really do not think this is in their interest either. If you look at my posts, I am only pointing out the irrationality of this move, not calling them names

Scott already emailed me, explained the situation and now I am waiting for the outcome, so yes they are on it and we will see how it ends.


Mat

[HomeFry]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/ get a clue dipshit. it makes sense you work for the government, dumb condescending and mislead statements without knowing all the facts.

I lied. I don't work for the Government.

So, to you, something made sense that was not true. Remind me... Who is mislead?

[martinsc]

[SAC]

interested to see how this ends...

[pompousjohn]

Originally Posted by purescotty

Any situation that ever arises in relation to Naughty Revenue is handled properly and professionally, and those involved know it, but just like the media you never hear about the POSITIVE side of things.

We go above and beyond for our affiliates, including going to bat for them, even when they are technically in the wrong. If you are one of our affiliates, and I can't stress that enough, if you are a NAUGHTY REVENUE AFFILIATE, and you ever have concerns relating to your account with us we have numerous lines of communication open for you. Email, phone, ICQ, we're here.

I understand many of you use the board as your voice, but trust me, it's not what brings resolution to these type of situations with our program. Communication is, and keep in mind, Molly and myself are here for you. Come to us for support and we will do whatever we can to help resolve your matter.

Thank You

So, official response is "no response"?

[MisterPeabody]

Time to start promoting PeabodyCash websites people.

Oh what'd i say??? LOL

[adultmobile]

Should be as written in the Terms of service, right?
So the noob at the program simply have read their own TOS and applied it:
http://www.naughtyrevenue.com/external.php?page=signup
- Affiliate is not accepted if: your domain name or site is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which La Touraine or another person or entity has intellectual property or other legal rights.
- Cybersquatting or Typosquatting. You will not register any domain name (including third level domain names or sub-domains) or URL that is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which La Touraine or another person or entity has intellectual property or other legal rights.
- Paid Search Advertising Schemes. You will not bid on or purchase any advertising (pay per click, search engine keywords) that incorporate or are confusingly similar to any of La Touraine's trademarks, service marks, or URLs.

I was looking terms of some programs to update our terms and it seems all say same:

Realitykings (Florida):
http://www.nastydollars.com/terms.htm
You are not permitted to:
- register or use any domain names that are similar to our Site Names;
- use or bid 'Fling' or our other Site Names or as keywords on search engines;
- use or bid words 'Official', 'Official Site' on search engines;
- use our Site Names to create numerous “link spam” to increase the rank of your sites;
- spam: email marketing or promotion of the Sites.
You agree to register with Program all domain names you use, will not be paid for sites not registered with the Program.

There's a termination clausole I am unsure everyone knows, no cumshots or you're banned, is that Florida law?:
- posting video content longer than 4 minutes in length and/or posting video content featuring male ejaculation, and/or posting any content with our watermark removed or altered;

Brazzers (Qebec, Canada):
http://www.juggcash.com/terms.html
You are not permitted to:
- Buy/use online ad-words or domain names or URLs incorporating or confusingly similar to any of Juggcash's trademarks or URLs including words "Brazzers", "Mofos", "Wicked", "Twisty's".
- Send unsolicited bulk/mass e-mails to non-consenting recipients, not compliant to CAN-SPAM Act of 2003;
- Use Deceptive, unfair and/or false advertising methods, spyware or ad-aware;
- Upload videos longer than 3 minutes and/or with more an one scene;

So as a program we have SITE123.COM , I should bust an affiliate who buy google adword SITE123 this everyone agrees with?
So affiliate register SITE123-OFFICIAL.COM he is to be banned yes?
And about affiliate with host SITE123.AFFILIATE.COM what's the consensus?

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Should be as written in the Terms of service, right?
So the noob at the program simply have read their own TOS and applied it:
http://www.naughtyrevenue.com/external.php?page=signup
- Affiliate is not accepted if: your domain name or site is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which La Touraine or another person or entity has intellectual property or other legal rights.
- Cybersquatting or Typosquatting. You will not register any domain name (including third level domain names or sub-domains) or URL that is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which La Touraine or another person or entity has intellectual property or other legal rights.
- Paid Search Advertising Schemes. You will not bid on or purchase any advertising (pay per click, search engine keywords) that incorporate or are confusingly similar to any of La Touraine's trademarks, service marks, or URLs.

I was looking terms of some programs to update our terms and it seems all say same:

Realitykings (Florida):
http://www.nastydollars.com/terms.htm
You are not permitted to:
- register or use any domain names that are similar to our Site Names;
- use or bid 'Fling' or our other Site Names or as keywords on search engines;
- use or bid words 'Official', 'Official Site' on search engines;
- use our Site Names to create numerous “link spam” to increase the rank of your sites;
- spam: email marketing or promotion of the Sites.
You agree to register with Program all domain names you use, will not be paid for sites not registered with the Program.

There's a termination clausole I am unsure everyone knows, no cumshots or you're banned, is that Florida law?:
- posting video content longer than 4 minutes in length and/or posting video content featuring male ejaculation, and/or posting any content with our watermark removed or altered;

Brazzers (Qebec, Canada):
http://www.juggcash.com/terms.html
You are not permitted to:
- Buy/use online ad-words or domain names or URLs incorporating or confusingly similar to any of Juggcash's trademarks or URLs including words "Brazzers", "Mofos", "Wicked", "Twisty's".
- Send unsolicited bulk/mass e-mails to non-consenting recipients, not compliant to CAN-SPAM Act of 2003;
- Use Deceptive, unfair and/or false advertising methods, spyware or ad-aware;
- Upload videos longer than 3 minutes and/or with more an one scene;

So as a program we have SITE123.COM , I should bust an affiliate who buy google adword SITE123 this everyone agrees with?
So affiliate register SITE123-OFFICIAL.COM he is to be banned yes?
And about affiliate with host SITE123.AFFILIATE.COM what's the consensus?

Most of these cases have nothing to do with adwords, just shitty seo by programs trying to play catch up. Their brands are not being diluted or misrepresented, in fact most time the affiliate does a better sales job than the program. I had a tax franchise, and i could put anything in my advertisements or on my signs as long as the brands name was more prominent. Same thing with real estate agents. Could you imagine someone working for century21 and not being allowed to use "century21" in their ads? This biz or whatever it is is pure lunacy sometimes.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by purescotty

Any situation that ever arises in relation to Naughty Revenue is handled properly and professionally, and those involved know it, but just like the media you never hear about the POSITIVE side of things.

We go above and beyond for our affiliates, including going to bat for them, even when they are technically in the wrong. If you are one of our affiliates, and I can't stress that enough, if you are a NAUGHTY REVENUE AFFILIATE, and you ever have concerns relating to your account with us we have numerous lines of communication open for you. Email, phone, ICQ, we're here.

I understand many of you use the board as your voice, but trust me, it's not what brings resolution to these type of situations with our program. Communication is, and keep in mind, Molly and myself are here for you. Come to us for support and we will do whatever we can to help resolve your matter.

Thank You

Never have I heard so much rubbish.. Your tools went down. I lost sales and you blamed me for it and paid me nothing.

I had internal emails with you and molly for weeks and you did nothing.

Stop lying your ass off

[TheSenator]

I wonder if it got resolved?

[Naughty-Pages]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

Could you imagine someone working for century21 and not being allowed to use "century21" in their ads? This biz or whatever it is is pure lunacy sometimes.

A very valid point..

[BareBacked]

This company has gone crazy ever since that guy with the nice teeth who was always smiling left

[u-Bob]

Let me guess. NA hired a new lawyer who doesn't know anything about the internet or online marketing and that lawyer is now trying to prove how 'essential' he is to their operation?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by SAC

alot of programs have banned affiliates from using site names in the TLD the last couple years then they end up with nothing but tubes & torrents in the top serps. i just dont fucking get it

Exactly. Most big companies pay good money for online reputation management services. And here we've got a company, NA, doing exactly the opposite. While big companies pay online rep management firms to flood the SERPs with positive mentions of their brand name, NA is demanding their affiliates remove positive mentions of their name.

[SAC]

fuck shitty programs. every NA video is available on the tubes anyways youd have to be a fucking moron to spend your time & money trying to sell shit surfers can get for FREE

[TheSenator]

100% compliant

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/16264

[TheSenator]

Found through Google...

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/16311

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

100% compliant

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/16264

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Found through Google...

http://naughtyamerica.redtube.com/16311

Lets seem them spin this...

[Mr. Garibaldi]

was NaughtyAmerica bought out by Deecash? this could be another explanation for sudden retarded behavior...

[SAC]

Redtube is blatantly breaking NA affiliate TOS. they need to be SUSPENDED ASAP. rofl...fucking MORONS

[Freaky_Akula]

What I learned from this thread; NA is doing negative seo to itself.

[Eyeball]

Who gives a fuck, it's just another over saturating sponsor digging its own grave.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Eyeball

Who gives a fuck, it's just another over saturating sponsor digging its own grave.

They have great content.

I wish they would have a nice auto rotating ad like NastyDollars switcher.

[SAC]

anybody who'd spend their time and money promoting NA is a fucking moron

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

I wonder if it got resolved?

bump for this question

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

bump for this question

Its weekend now, I am waiting for the outcome too

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by SAC

anybody who'd spend their time and money promoting NA is a fucking moron

Why? So far all was fine, they have good sites and quality content, I had no problems with support too... I still think this was just some new guy or whoever who thought this would be a great idea... once it gets resolved I have no reason to stop promoting them.

[Juicy D. Links]

Fleshlight pulled same shit on me and tons of other affiliates as well....

Real low down shame...

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by matuloo

Why? So far all was fine, they have good sites and quality content, I had no problems with support too... I still think this was just some new guy or whoever who thought this would be a great idea... once it gets resolved I have no reason to stop promoting them.

Fleshlight took the same route and backfired on them royally .... They told myself and others in the past SUre............ you can use that domain to send us sales ... then after you build it up they pulled but comes out to "theft" pretty much..

[Eyeball]

Originally Posted by matuloo

Why? So far all was fine, they have good sites and quality content, I had no problems with support too... I still think this was just some new guy or whoever who thought this would be a great idea... once it gets resolved I have no reason to stop promoting them.

The old 'rogue employee' back track.

Once this gets resolved i have no reason to stop promoting them? Do you mean, until this gets resolved i have a fucking good reason to cease promoting them?

[matuloo]

Originally Posted by Eyeball

The old 'rogue employee' back track.

Once this gets resolved i have no reason to stop promoting them? Do you mean, until this gets resolved i have a fucking good reason to cease promoting them?

Well sure, we can word it the other way too. What matters to me is that I have my account enabled again, and Scott promised me to help me with the case if possible. Of course I will stop promoting them if they decide to enforce this clause of their TOS, I use subdomains pretty often so there is no way to change it and I would just delete all the reviews, galleries etc... I am sure everybody would do the same. But I dont want to loose a sponsor with good sites, so I hope for a favorable outcome.