Are Exact Match Domains Still Worth it? - GoFuckYourself.com

$5 submissions · 04-15-2012, 01:38 PM

These are great ways to get a head start on SE traffic. Considering Google's latest rumblings regarding "overoptimization" (See http://searchengineland.com/too-much...or-that-115627), do you guys think paying extra for EMDs are still worth it?

Nicky · 04-15-2012, 01:40 PM

I def prefer them

Denny · 04-15-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

I def prefer them

DamageX · 04-15-2012, 02:40 PM

IMO, unless you go for very thin sites and fairly low competition terms, they're not worth the hassle.

You end up building new sites over and over again, instead of beefing up current ones and slowly turning them into authority sites. You CAN SEO one post at a time too.

porno jew · 04-15-2012, 02:42 PM

thin sites have no future, if they do at all any more.

ErectMedia · 04-15-2012, 03:19 PM

still worth it if you do something with them, building thin amazon etc... type sites will rank for a tad then usually drop off if no unique content. Over the last 9-10 years of selling .com domains the majority of my sales have been keyword .com exact match mainstream domains.

Socks · 04-15-2012, 03:27 PM

Well it certainly hasn't happened yet.

Look at this site: http://www.ellamilano.net/

Blog with 7 posts, no text per post except for an affiliate link, footer is unedited and selling placeholder sample ebooks...

But it ranks #3 for "ella milano" its best possible keyword.

$5 submissions · 04-15-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

IMO, unless you go for very thin sites and fairly low competition terms, they're not worth the hassle.

You end up building new sites over and over again, instead of beefing up current ones and slowly turning them into authority sites. You CAN SEO one post at a time too.

Good points. Another issue is FUTURE-PROOFING. Google Semantic Algorithm change is a question of WHEN not IF. At that point, the focus is less on keywords but on themes. Not just themes based on keyword clusters but keyword themes with social media inputs/buzz.

porno jew · 04-15-2012, 04:40 PM

google is already using social media signals as ranking. it is much easier to rank sites getting lots of natural social sharing than one who has none.

mineistaken · 04-15-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Well it certainly hasn't happened yet.

Look at this site: http://www.ellamilano.net/

Blog with 7 posts, no text per post except for an affiliate link, footer is unedited and selling placeholder sample ebooks...

But it ranks #3 for "ella milano" its best possible keyword.

And how do you know if it ranks so well because of EMD or because of quality backlinks?
Backlinks is and was way more important than EMD. Your post proves nothing.

VenusBlogger · 04-15-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Well it certainly hasn't happened yet.

Look at this site: http://www.ellamilano.net/

Blog with 7 posts, no text per post except for an affiliate link, footer is unedited and selling placeholder sample ebooks...

But it ranks #3 for "ella milano" its best possible keyword.

It ranks number 2 from Google.com LOL.

porno jew · 04-15-2012, 05:33 PM

all things being equal having an emd will give you an advantage.

period.

signupdamnit · 04-15-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

all things being equal having an emd will give you an advantage.

period.

Exactly. Especially if it seems like you are also the legitimate "brand" for the EMD. It'll be harder than hell to unseat you for your EMD term when that's the case and you have any amount of decent seo otherwise. Anyone saying otherwise has never been #2 chasing #1 for that phrase. ;)

$5 submissions · 04-15-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

It ranks number 2 from Google.com LOL.

Probably using differing data centers. MY DC is reporting #1 rank for that term for ellamilano.net

PornMD · 04-15-2012, 08:00 PM

It may not always be the silver bullet it used to be (though the site Socks mentioned and some I've seen myself would beg to differ) but in conjunction with a sound SEO/content strategy, it can only help.

I think what may ultimately suffer are hyphen EMDs. It used to be that search engines wouldn't see them any differently, but given they look spammier to most humans (especially if it's a non-.com), fewer people click through and people would be quick to bounce off if they don't immediately see what they're looking for, so ultimately those wouldn't rank well for long if they would at all.

But yea, you can't really EXPECT to rank an EMD well with a thin site anymore. It can still happen, but you can lose the ranking as easily as you got it, if you can even get it.

Consider this though: The matching words still get bolded, which helps the domain stand out, which arguably attracts more clicks, which in turn can help the rankings improve. Also, Google does still look for relevance, and any match including in the domain help with determining that.

We primarily sell mainstream EMD and business has been up this year, so I presume that they must still be working well for many people.

$5 submissions · 04-15-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

It may not always be the silver bullet it used to be (though the site Socks mentioned and some I've seen myself would beg to differ) but in conjunction with a sound SEO/content strategy, it can only help.

I think what may ultimately suffer are hyphen EMDs. It used to be that search engines wouldn't see them any differently, but given they look spammier to most humans (especially if it's a non-.com), fewer people click through and people would be quick to bounce off if they don't immediately see what they're looking for, so ultimately those wouldn't rank well for long if they would at all.

But yea, you can't really EXPECT to rank an EMD well with a thin site anymore. It can still happen, but you can lose the ranking as easily as you got it, if you can even get it.

Consider this though: The matching words still get bolded, which helps the domain stand out, which arguably attracts more clicks, which in turn can help the rankings improve. Also, Google does still look for relevance, and any match including in the domain help with determining that.

We primarily sell mainstream EMD and business has been up this year, so I presume that they must still be working well for many people.

Great response, PornMD. I love your $99 mainstream domain sale. Get at me via ICQ, my man!

shake · 04-15-2012, 08:40 PM

Funny enough, I have great results with my mainstream EMDs with solid #1 results for some small niche topics. However NONE of my adult EMDs place even in the top 100 results... strange how search engines work.

DamageX · 04-15-2012, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

all things being equal having an emd will give you an advantage.

period.

Though that kinda goes without saying...

Denny · 04-16-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

And how do you know if it ranks so well because of EMD or because of quality backlinks?
Backlinks is and was way more important than EMD. Your post proves nothing.

http://www.hotnakedgirls.com

#5 for "hot naked girls"

-no incoming links
-no content

DamageX · 04-16-2012, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

http://www.hotnakedgirls.com

#5 for "hot naked girls"

-no incoming links
-no content

12 yo domain. Probably still easy to overtake though, thanks.

u-Bob · 04-16-2012, 04:09 AM

Look at it this way: Anything that shows you are committed to the site will most likely be seen as something positive by Google:

Using an old domain you've been renewing every year over the last 12 years > this is not some fire-and-forget project.
Using an expensive domain (a domain that could be sold for a lot of money) > high level of commitment.

XXXInsights · 04-16-2012, 04:11 AM

It still helps, I get faster rankings on my keywords when having a exact match... no matter if it's .com / .net / .org

Nicky · 04-16-2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

12 yo domain. Probably still easy to overtake though, thanks.

Nice find indeed.

$5 submissions · 04-17-2012, 04:44 PM

Interesting how quite a few EMD owners forget to buy the .org when they buy up the .com version.

ErectMedia · 04-22-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Interesting how quite a few EMD owners forget to buy the .org when they buy up the .com version.

for resale when dealing with a minimum 500-1000 domains in inventory at all times I only buy the .com as it will have the highest sales price and if any type in traffic exists it will fall to the .com as well.

for development I usually snag .com,.net,.org,.info,.biz,.us

HandballJim · 04-22-2012, 10:44 AM

yahoo loves them and will list you 1st page, with google you need a lot elements to get ranked.

I like exact match domains, but make sure people are searching those terms.

04-15-2012, 03:19 PM	#6
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04-15-2012, 03:27 PM	#7
Socks Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,091	Well it certainly hasn't happened yet. Look at this site: http://www.ellamilano.net/ Blog with 7 posts, no text per post except for an affiliate link, footer is unedited and selling placeholder sample ebooks... But it ranks #3 for "ella milano" its best possible keyword. __________________ Socks Manly - ICQ: 1209684 - NEWhttp://www.PornReviewsPlus.comNEW Do you offer discount prices to review sites? Hit me up!

04-15-2012, 08:00 PM	#15
PornMD Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 8,939	It may not always be the silver bullet it used to be (though the site Socks mentioned and some I've seen myself would beg to differ) but in conjunction with a sound SEO/content strategy, it can only help. I think what may ultimately suffer are hyphen EMDs. It used to be that search engines wouldn't see them any differently, but given they look spammier to most humans (especially if it's a non-.com), fewer people click through and people would be quick to bounce off if they don't immediately see what they're looking for, so ultimately those wouldn't rank well for long if they would at all. But yea, you can't really EXPECT to rank an EMD well with a thin site anymore. It can still happen, but you can lose the ranking as easily as you got it, if you can even get it. Consider this though: The matching words still get bolded, which helps the domain stand out, which arguably attracts more clicks, which in turn can help the rankings improve. Also, Google does still look for relevance, and any match including in the domain help with determining that. We primarily sell mainstream EMD and business has been up this year, so I presume that they must still be working well for many people. __________________ Need a great adult domain? Check here first! Also have awesome mainstream domains for sale - contact me ICQ: 12-143-108 - Email: Last edited by PornMD; 04-15-2012 at 08:02 PM..

04-16-2012, 04:09 AM	#21
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,071	Look at it this way: Anything that shows you are committed to the site will most likely be seen as something positive by Google: Using an old domain you've been renewing every year over the last 12 years > this is not some fire-and-forget project. Using an expensive domain (a domain that could be sold for a lot of money) > high level of commitment. __________________ I <3 Phatservers/AmeriNOC

04-16-2012, 04:11 AM	#22
XXXInsights Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 85	It still helps, I get faster rankings on my keywords when having a exact match... no matter if it's .com / .net / .org __________________ XXXInsights.Com - Adult SEO Tools to Explore New Adult Niche Ideas

04-15-2012, 01:38 PM	#1
$5 submissions ICQ 228809744 Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: info@webmasterlabor.com Posts: 28,959	Are Exact Match Domains Still Worth it? These are great ways to get a head start on SE traffic. Considering Google's latest rumblings regarding "overoptimization" (See http://searchengineland.com/too-much...or-that-115627), do you guys think paying extra for EMDs are still worth it? __________________ Buy Text Content For Only $5 For 800 words \| 100% Copyscape-compliant - Click Here 50% OFF Your First Month's Hosting Bill - Coupon: AMERINOC$5

04-15-2012, 01:40 PM	#2
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04-15-2012, 02:40 PM	#4
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 13,903	IMO, unless you go for very thin sites and fairly low competition terms, they're not worth the hassle. You end up building new sites over and over again, instead of beefing up current ones and slowly turning them into authority sites. You CAN SEO one post at a time too.

04-15-2012, 02:42 PM	#5
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,323	thin sites have no future, if they do at all any more.

04-15-2012, 04:40 PM	#9
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,323	google is already using social media signals as ranking. it is much easier to rank sites getting lots of natural social sharing than one who has none.

04-15-2012, 05:33 PM	#12
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,323	all things being equal having an emd will give you an advantage. period.

04-15-2012, 08:40 PM	#17
shake Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 2,764	Funny enough, I have great results with my mainstream EMDs with solid #1 results for some small niche topics. However NONE of my adult EMDs place even in the top 100 results... strange how search engines work.

04-17-2012, 04:44 PM	#24
$5 submissions ICQ 228809744 Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: info@webmasterlabor.com Posts: 28,959	Interesting how quite a few EMD owners forget to buy the .org when they buy up the .com version. __________________ Buy Text Content For Only $5 For 800 words \| 100% Copyscape-compliant - Click Here 50% OFF Your First Month's Hosting Bill - Coupon: AMERINOC$5

04-22-2012, 10:44 AM	#26
HandballJim Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 3,807	yahoo loves them and will list you 1st page, with google you need a lot elements to get ranked. I like exact match domains, but make sure people are searching those terms. __________________ New Sig coming soon

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