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Old 03-20-2012, 11:23 AM   #51
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Read the very first sentence of your own quote. YOUR post said:



According to YOUR source, the problem is that it's so difficult and expensive to get a permit to build a modern refinery that none have been built since 1976.

Back off for a second from reading only the parts that support some political idealogy and actually read your own source. It makes you a much more intelligent and well rounded person. Just because you generally agree with Obama or whoever doesn't mean you have to close your eyes and ignore facts he'd rather you not see, even as you accidentally quote those facts. You can agree with him generally and still see that he's wrong on this issue.
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He said "gas prices go up because of speculation - more people buy stock in oil companies."

On the other hand, supply is obviously affected by the fact that we haven't been allowed to add any new refineries since 1976. Think about if since 1976 no one was allowed to start producing content. You had to buy only from photographers who started shooting in 1976 or earlier. How do you think that would affect rhe price of content? That's exactly what the greenies have done with gas - no new refineries, no drilling here, no drilling there, no new pipelines = supply doesn't keep up with demand = prices go up.
That is NOT true ... They were allowed , but elected not to do so ... for profit reasons ...

I even posted that part, contrary to your ramblings ...

See the following post, same problem in Canada .... Here, I buy BRENT petrolium that is 20% more expensive that the Alberta oil sold to the US.

Must be Obama and/or our government .... After all, oil companies are all facing bankruptcy
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:17 PM   #52
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You blame directly OBAMA , or Barry, or Obumer, or NoBama for the increase in price ...

Explain to me how OBAMA got the price of gas to go up as well in France in Germany, with the exact same pattern .... ??? Please, take your time ...

PS: notice the price going up as well under Bush till the recession hit... again in all countries ...
You're the one that played the race card. You didn't respond to what I stated, you called me a racist and moved on with the voices in your head. playing the race card shows that you have lost, even when there was no arguement, game over , fail.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:57 PM   #53
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Rent the movie Trading Places. In addition to being rather entertaining and having some naked Jamie Lee Curtis boobies, it shows an extreme example of how commodities speculation effects market price. In this case, frozen concentrated orange juice FCOJ, rather than gasoline.
Jamie Lee Curtis was born with a cock. That's not the only thing in that movie that looks better than it is in real life.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:03 PM   #54
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Here is your post :


That is NOT true ... They were allowed , but elected not to do so ... for profit reasons ...

I even posted that part, contrary to your ramblings ...
"it's so difficult and expensive to get a permit that noone has been able to get one for 35 years" and "they aren't allowed to" is pretty much the same thing, isn't it. If a driver's license costs $2,500,000 and there is a fifteen year waiting list, it doesn't matter if you could theoretically get one eventually. The practical effect is that you're not allowed to drive.

Based on your business success, I don't think you're stupid. I think you know it's the same thing - whether permits are so hard to get that it hasn't been done for 35 years or if permits don't exist. I think you're smart enough to understand that if you're honest with yourself.

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Old 03-20-2012, 04:19 PM   #55
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Gas price

Here in our place.. gas is extremely at very high price.. errr..
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:33 PM   #56
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Pick up a Moped or 50cc street bike. You'll get like 70 or 100 miles to the gallon and you can backpack and saddlebag your groceries home that way. I was around during the shortage in the 70's, so you go with what you know. Honda pretty much took off with the introduction of the Honda 50 in the 70's.
I would love one of those. The husband is always talking about getting one too.

However I would have to make more trips to the store than normal to get all the groceries home. Probably less gas still, but more trips is more of my time to go to store. lol.

Now that I think about it, I'd pay double the gas just to make less trips to walmart. That's where I need to focus my efforts.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #57
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"it's so difficult and expensive to get a permit that noone has been able to get one for 35 years" and "they aren't allowed to" is pretty much the same thing, isn't it. If a driver's license costs $2,500,000 and there is a fifteen year waiting list, it doesn't matter if you could theoretically get one eventually. The practical effect is that you're not allowed to drive.

Based on your business success, I don't think you're stupid. I think you know it's the same thing - whether permits are so hard to get that it hasn't been done for 35 years or if permits don't exist. I think you're smart enough to understand that if you're honest with yourself.
It's not about the permits cost, after the gulf oil spill, new permits given out by the Obama Adminstration is down 65%.

Obama said in a recent speech that this administration is drilling more than either Bush or Clinton. While true, it's not because of Obama, it's because of permits given out during the Clinton and Bush administration. ( it takes a while to go from permit to oil producing )Obama just has to get credit for something, even if someone else is responsible for it.
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I would love one of those. The husband is always talking about getting one too.

However I would have to make more trips to the store than normal to get all the groceries home. Probably less gas still, but more trips is more of my time to go to store. lol.

Now that I think about it, I'd pay double the gas just to make less trips to walmart. That's where I need to focus my efforts.
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