California bans plastic bags

[dyna mo]

fiddy sack

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by baddog

Fuck Moonbeam and all the pricks that voted for him and will vote for him in November. Seriously, fuck each and every one of you. Go back to where you came from please.

Just don't send them here to Vegas...we already have enough California transplants here trying to make us a mini-Cali ;-)

[robwod]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Unless those sobeys bags have changed, you can't wipe the inside, its some kind of weird felt material that you can easily just pull away from the plastic. i'm guessing you can't put them in the dryer either.

Hmm, I wipe ours all of the time without issue. The liners in these, I just checked, are like a plastic mesh, very easy to wipe down. They easily go through our washer, one of those front loading types, it has a rack in it where we place them, and just use the medium temp. Then the dryer has the same thing... a rack to place things on (for sneakers, hats, and such). It just works for us.

Maybe Sobey's Nova Scotia has different bags than elsewhere? The old ones had these sort of fabric mesh liner than was loose. Are those the type you meant?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

[Rochard]

I'm surprised enough people even cared.

So now how do I pack my kid's lunch? I have to... buy bags that I will not re-use? (Once I send a bag off to school with my kid we don't get it back.) The number of bags used go down, only the amount of times we use them.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm surprised enough people even cared.

So now how do I pack my kid's lunch? I have to... buy bags that I will not re-use? (Once I send a bag off to school with my kid we don't get it back.) The number of bags used go down, only the amount of times we use them.

It's really not that hard.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Certainly you are not trying to claim Torrance is somehow better than LA when it comes to grocery stores.

If plastic bags makes them better (apparently what you are trying to suggest I'm saying), then yes it is.

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

California should ban illegal shitbag aliens

Ayy

Originally Posted by SykkBoy

Just don't send them here to Vegas...we already have enough California transplants here trying to make us a mini-Cali ;-)

Transplants to California are not California transplants just because they move again.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

this item is not available to ship to your area

and not available on amazon.ca

too bad, they looked like quality

this is what the government of canada is telling us to do when using reusable bags...use more plastic bags! doesn't that defeat the point?

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Imagine that slightly contaminated reusable bag waiting in your hot car for it's next use. It will grow bacteria at an alarming rate in the bag and your car.

what kind of leaky produce are you guys buying anyway? this is never an issue with people, nobody is keeping stinky bags in their cars or in their homes.. or at least i would hope not.

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

It's actually good for you. Your body needs exposure to all kinds of filth in order to develop immunity.

Michael Jackson slept in a hypobaric chamber. Look what happened to him.

yes yes, mold just makes people stronger really... so does cyanide and sniffing paint...


..also living germ free turns you into the king of pop.

[L-Pink]

This is where the "California" mentality just kills me. Every single fucking thing put into the microscopically thin grocery bag doesn't count? Just the fucking bag? Really?

Junk food in plastic wrapping is ok? 20 little chips in a 8 oz bag is ok? Small bottles/cans of water, soda, etc. The wrapping on meat and fish, the plastic you put 1 tomato into is ok? Etc, etc, etc, But let's make an issue of not using plastic bags to put other wasteful containers into? Classic diversion from the real problem.

I'm appalled at the amount of trash my small household produces on a weekly basis. To worry about the fucking plastic bags that toted all this shit home in is ridiculous.

[robwod]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This is where the "California" mentality just kills me. Every single fucking thing put into the microscopically thin grocery bag doesn't count? Just the fucking bag? Really?

Agreed. it's not just Cali. Here where I am in Canada as well. it's ironic that they sell you lifetime bags, then take your meat and wrap in plastic before putting into the re-usable bag.

[GregE]

I'm not a dog owner, but every dog owner I know uses those little plastic bags the stores hand out to pick up the dog shit. Ban those bags and what options remain for Fido's owner? Paper bags? I don't think so. Using their kitchen sinks to wash the shit out of a reusable plastic bag? I sure hope not. Purchase bags specifically for their dog's shit? Some will, but others won't.

I'm guessing the residents of municipalities that choose to ban plastic bags step in a hell of a lot more dog shit than everyone else.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This is where the "California" mentality just kills me. Every single fucking thing put into the microscopically thin grocery bag doesn't count? Just the fucking bag? Really?

Junk food in plastic wrapping is ok? 20 little chips in a 8 oz bag is ok? Small bottles/cans of water, soda, etc. The wrapping on meat and fish, the plastic you put 1 tomato into is ok? Etc, etc, etc, But let's make an issue of not using plastic bags to put other wasteful containers into? Classic diversion from the real problem.

I'm appalled at the amount of trash my small household produces on a weekly basis. To worry about the fucking plastic bags that toted all this shit home in is ridiculous.

keep a lookout for my CARB-compliant Cali clusterfuck thread! example: I bought a 6 gallon gas can with the required CARB-compliant nozzle, it spills more gas than the fumes it stops.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Roald

It's really not that hard.

You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

[Rochard]

What kills me the most... Is our recycling program. If you want to recycle they charge you $25 a month for the extra container... Which they then take the dump and make money off of.

Fuck that. We save up cans and bottles, and every other month or so I go to the dump myself. I usually walk away with $60-$100 each trip.

Better yet, I store my cans and bottles in.... You guessed it - plastic bags.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

This is where the "California" mentality just kills me. Every single fucking thing put into the microscopically thin grocery bag doesn't count? Just the fucking bag? Really?

Junk food in plastic wrapping is ok? 20 little chips in a 8 oz bag is ok? Small bottles/cans of water, soda, etc. The wrapping on meat and fish, the plastic you put 1 tomato into is ok? Etc, etc, etc, But let's make an issue of not using plastic bags to put other wasteful containers into? Classic diversion from the real problem.

I'm appalled at the amount of trash my small household produces on a weekly basis. To worry about the fucking plastic bags that toted all this shit home in is ridiculous.

Only the other day, we we're speaking about this, food waste & other house hold items. It's disgusting, the amount of food wastage every day, shops dumping 'out of sell by dates', would have been given away cheap the next day or given to the homeless or hungry, now they can't because the law states they can't, even though it's still edible

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

Somehow she manages to bring home her phone everyday. I'm sure she can figure it out. Want lunch, bring home lunch box. My friends dog has this figured out.

Most of the people complaining about this seem to be of the older variety. Which makes sense. Your generation caused plenty of damage. Why give a shit now?

[robwod]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

All of the kids around here, from Kindergarten/Primary through high school all have backpacks. And in the backpacks is usually a cooler bag where they keep their lunches, snacks, etc. And most carry a water bottle of some sort.... the aluminum ones here are really popular as they are like a water bottle/thermos in one that keeps their drinks cold.

Do the kids in your area not use backpacks and cooler bags?

YumBox seems to be all the rage around here:
http://www.yumboxlunch.com/

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What kills me the most... Is our recycling program. If you want to recycle they charge you $25 a month for the extra container... Which they then take the dump and make money off of.

Fuck that. We save up cans and bottles, and every other month or so I go to the dump myself. I usually walk away with $60-$100 each trip.

Better yet, I store my cans and bottles in.... You guessed it - plastic bags.

curb recycling in california is a myth. The waste management companies sort all refuse out at the sorting stations. Those guys don't leave any money on the table.

[SplatterMaster]

Originally Posted by Roald

It's really not that hard.

[PaperstreetWinston]

good for them, now if people would actually re-use them, that would be perfect

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

what kind of leaky produce are you guys buying anyway? this is never an issue with people, nobody is keeping stinky bags in their cars or in their homes.. or at least i would hope not.



yes yes, mold just makes people stronger really... so does cyanide and sniffing paint...


..also living germ free turns you into the king of pop.

You have never had a bag of chicken leak? Or hamburger? It could even touch something in the cart before you get to checkout then it's transferred to your reusable bag by a can of tuna it touched.

Or how about some lady getting raw chicken or meat juice on her hand then touching fruit you are going to buy 3 minutes later?

All sorts of ways you can get contaminated food.


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[baddog]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

You have never had a bag of chicken leak? Or hamburger? It could even touch something in the cart before you get to checkout then it's transferred to your reusable bag by a can of tuna it touched.

Or how about some lady getting raw chicken or meat juice on her hand then touching fruit you are going to buy 3 minutes later?

All sorts of ways you can get contaminated food.


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Your use of logic with him is rather amusing. His type doesn't want to hear it.

[420]

Originally Posted by baddog

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

Fuck the environment, it should have thought about what humans would do to it before it let us get so powerful.

Why do we need bags anyway? Just carry the shit individually lazy fuckers.

[420]

Originally Posted by baddog

Good point, you never see paper litter.

Are you just fucking around today? Paper is organic, it decomposes quickly.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Sly

Somehow she manages to bring home her phone everyday. I'm sure she can figure it out. Want lunch, bring home lunch box. My friends dog has this figured out.

Most of the people complaining about this seem to be of the older variety. Which makes sense. Your generation caused plenty of damage. Why give a shit now?

its hard to give a shit and feel like what you do makes any difference when there are so many more huge contributors to trash, it makes households, even all together look like a spec.

[420]

How long before our plastic garbage gets compressed into something more valuable than diamonds? Our future ancestors are depending on us. We must let those bags go free in the breeze.

[TheSquealer]

It's always amusing to see how much of what we consider to be routine and mundane daily life represents an impossible to solve and thoroughly confusing puzzle for Rochard.

His poor kids. If shitty nasty dirty disposable garbage bags which litter the streets and highways and oceans cease to exist, he has no idea how his own children will eat lunch. Wow. No parent of the year award for him.

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

Thank god for China town! They still have them.

[420]

Rochard's philosophy:

$2 for brown paper bags?! fuck that, kid, put your lunch in this double use bag

only 3 or 4 people touched the items that were in there, your apple will be fine

don't worry, that's just chicken juice, nature's laxative

[brassmonkey]

these idiots are going to make you pay more. that bitch is crazy saying this is going nationwide look at their debt. just heard cali burned through its firefighting budget.

[bronco67]

I use them as backup dog poop bags.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by 420

Are you just fucking around today? Paper is organic, it decomposes quickly.

And that's the beauty of using tree farms for paper vs oil for plastics.


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[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Roald

yes but 99% of the people isn't re-using them

I throw away at least 5-10 a week. I don't feel guilty cause I think Mark driving a Volt counteracts my waste.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

What exactly do your kids do at lunch? Bringing a lunchbox back from school should not require a whole lot of effort for the average child.

Check this page for some cool ideas.
https://www.parentmap.com/article/20...ideas-for-kids

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

It's always amusing to see how much of what we consider to be routine and mundane daily life represents an impossible to solve and thoroughly confusing puzzle for Rochard.

His poor kids. If shitty nasty dirty disposable garbage bags which litter the streets and highways and oceans cease to exist, he has no idea how his own children will eat lunch. Wow. No parent of the year award for him.

A circle living in a Rubik's Cube.

[420]

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

I throw away at least 5-10 a week. I don't feel guilty cause I think Mark driving a Volt counteracts my waste.

lol

I don't reuse my milk containers but a gallon jug uses as much plastic as 30 bags. I do reuse some shopping bags as small trash bin liners. But I throw the rest in the trash; if my girl doesn't take them back to the store's recycling bin. The garbage company should be sorting and recycling everything.

The point is, plastic bags are easily replaced with paper or cloth. Plastic liquid containers are much cheaper/lighter than glass and not as easily replaced.

This will keep ~250 million pounds of plastic out of CA landfills each year. I assume there is a point where you have more used plastic than you can recycle. So, this can't be a bad thing. But it doesn't mean you have to recycle at home or be "green" either.

[420]

Don't worry guys, you can still get your precious dog poo bags online. Or just do like the rest of us and use a shovel to fling it into your neighbor's yard.

http://www.uline.com/BL_38/Economy-T-Shirt-Bags

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Sly

Somehow she manages to bring home her phone everyday. I'm sure she can figure it out. Want lunch, bring home lunch box. My friends dog has this figured out.

Most of the people complaining about this seem to be of the older variety. Which makes sense. Your generation caused plenty of damage. Why give a shit now?

Originally Posted by robwod

All of the kids around here, from Kindergarten/Primary through high school all have backpacks. And in the backpacks is usually a cooler bag where they keep their lunches, snacks, etc. And most carry a water bottle of some sort.... the aluminum ones here are really popular as they are like a water bottle/thermos in one that keeps their drinks cold.

Do the kids in your area not use backpacks and cooler bags?

YumBox seems to be all the rage around here:
http://www.yumboxlunch.com/

Originally Posted by 420

Don't worry guys, you can still get your precious dog poo bags online. Or just do like the rest of us and use a shovel to fling it into your neighbor's yard.

http://www.uline.com/BL_38/Economy-T-Shirt-Bags

And again... You don't have kids do you?

Yeah, they'll carry their phones home with them but fuck all when it comes to their chargers... I couldn't count how many times my kid has gone with no phone because the charger was left at someone's house.

But again, this isn't a solution. Great, we put the sandwich in a little box.... How do you carry the cute little box and the rest of the food? Oh, so we'll need a sack or a bag for that. So again, instead of re-using a plastic bag, we'll have to go out and use a brand new one. Fucking brilliant.

Same when I pick up my dog pop. I'll have to buy bags just for that now too?

[baddog]

First they outlaw paper bags, then they outlaw plastic bags. Boxes will be next

[onwebcam]

I would throw them in my recycle bin but since they only come around once a month I save that for my beer cans.

[Socks]

I want the part of my life back where I read part of this thread.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

Excuses excuses excuses......

[robwod]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And again... You don't have kids do you?

Of course I do. Why would I suggest something for kids unless I had experience with it?

Our kid takes his lunchbox and water bottle to school each day, in his backpack, and comes home with it just fine.

YMMV, just a suggestion was all.

[jimmycastor]

ever heard of plastic island

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And again... You don't have kids do you?

Yeah, they'll carry their phones home with them but fuck all when it comes to their chargers... I couldn't count how many times my kid has gone with no phone because the charger was left at someone's house.

But again, this isn't a solution. Great, we put the sandwich in a little box.... How do you carry the cute little box and the rest of the food? Oh, so we'll need a sack or a bag for that. So again, instead of re-using a plastic bag, we'll have to go out and use a brand new one. Fucking brilliant.

Same when I pick up my dog pop. I'll have to buy bags just for that now too?

kids must be getting dumber. i had no problems taking and bringing home a lunch box with a thermos, spoon/fork, etc since grade 1. i had one like this only it was masters of the universe, not peanuts.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Roald

yes but 99% of the people isn't re-using them

They did the same here last year or so. Good move imo.

I think it's 'aren't reusing them' and I only say that because I know you're a smart guy and English isn't your native tongue .... and possibly it's '99% of people' not the people....

I'm no grammar Nazi, just seems more correct...and I could be wrong

[PornDiscounts-V]

We use our own cloth bags and have for years. I can fit all of our groceries into two of them.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by baddog

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

Trolling? If not...pathetic

[Theo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

we do the exactly the same plastic or paper bag

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Rochard

These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.
This sucks.

But those bags still endup in landfill no?