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Old 08-29-2014, 12:38 PM   #101
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USA is a nation built on guns and alcohol (and tobacco). throughout the entire history of this nation that is the simple fact.

it's not changing. and it can't change. If anyone thinks we can ban guns you only needs to look up what happened during the prohibition era to see how bad shit got here when we tried to outlaw liquor- organized crime was created, income tax was created, millions of Americans were instantly turned into felons, neighbors spied on neighbors, murder and crime went up, on&on, et al. Some scholars even point to prohibition as the catalyst to the depression, it hit the economy hard.

it doesn't matter what your opinion is on guns, the fact is the gun genie is out of the bottle and always has been.
Gun owners are mostly older. They are slowly dying off so no worries. In 40 years it has gone from 50% to about 30%. As it keeps dropping, the US gets safer and safer. Go figure.
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Old 08-29-2014, 01:37 PM   #102
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kills more nuff said
Well, if someone tries to steal your TV, you know what to do: "Here, eat this motherfucker!"

By the way, we have here too "cultural clashes" as drug usage in other western countries is not as common. Although "may not be far behind".

http://www.eurad.net/en/news/consump...e.9UFRnM1Q.ips

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...drug-addiction

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Old 08-29-2014, 02:24 PM   #103
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Gun owners are mostly older.
I don't think the young street gangs got that memo...
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Old 08-29-2014, 06:33 PM   #104
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I don't think the young street gangs got that memo...
Hard to beleive sometimes but there are less members of young street gangs now too. So maybe they did?
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:48 PM   #105
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Quite much self defence in US. Is it really that wild west or do they shoot mailmans too?

I would like to point that gun ownership is not the only factor. Right to shoot people with little barrier, is important factor too. Even if for example UK would have as much weapons and the handguns as US, you can't just shoot people like in US.

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Old 08-29-2014, 07:50 PM   #106
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Yes, but the definition for murder is different. For example in some states you can shoot people entering your property, if they are suspicious or something. Also, you can shoot for example burglar (for burglaring), if I am not totally uncorrect.
You are totally "uncorrect" or incorrect as it were. Murder is defined by law in pretty much the same way all over the states.
What you confuse is justifiable homicide or self defense!!!!! This is not murder - not even close!!!
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:01 PM   #107
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My problem with people owning firearms is the track of training and lack of understanding of tactics.

The recent shooting in Vegas this year is good example. Two gunman shot two police officers and fled to a local Walmart. There a civilian armed with a handgun felt empowered to take them on. The civilian had no understand of the tactical situation at all, and failed to notice a second gunman. The civilian opened fire, missed, and was then shot and killed.

This civilian felt empowered by having a handgun and thought he could handle the situation, and very, very wrong - and paid for it with his life.

People on this board have said that if someone breaks into their house at night they would engage them with their firearm. Really? Are you really going to engage an unknown amount of people in your house in the dark and start a firefight? What if your daughter was just thirsty? Are you going to end up shooting your dog because they knocked something over in the dark?
Sorry, 2nd amendment doesn't say you can only have firearms if you are not a douche, dumbfucks get to own them too.
The problem gets real when only the dumbfucks have them and no-one else does!!!

Armed population cuts down the dumbfuck ratio. = Dumbfuck pulls gun, dumbfuck gets shot by non-dumbfuck with legal right to own gun. Problem solved.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:03 PM   #108
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Remember the situation in FL where younger guy threw some popcorn on an older guy in the movies and ended up dying as that retiree shot him to death claiming that he felt threatened. If no gun was present, perhaps broken nose and heated F You exchanges would never lead to a dead body. How can you trust that people will always judge the situation correctly? Like the cop who killed his daughter who was hiding behind the curtain playing a joke on his dad. In both cases the guy was a good person with no violent past or bad intentions. If no gun was present, there would be no tragedy.
Kane slew Abel with an unregistered rock dude!!!!!!!
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:08 PM   #109
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Do you have death penalty for stealing TVs?
No, but in USA you have the right to defend your property and sometimes the thief does something worthy of self defense. So he gets shot.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:16 PM   #110
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I know, Glen, I would be a wreck. I just said that for effect. It would take a lot for me to shoot someone, and if I did, I would more than likely load some buckshot into my Mossberg and aim low. Maybe take out a leg or two. I couldn't live with A) killing someone and B) putting my kids through additional trauma.
Can't win!!! shoot low and get sued = loose all. Just sayin'
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:26 PM   #111
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Do you have any ideas how many times I've heard something go bump in the night in the past year? Six? Sixteen? Ten times out of ten it's either my daughter or my dog. I have a home alarm and I no longer get concerned about hearing something in the house in the middle of the morning.

I'm sorry, but I would much rather have someone steal my TV instead of myself having shot and killed my wife or daughter by mistake.
Identify your target prior to shooting always.

In my home I investigate noises at night with no weapon at all or sometimes only a blade in my hand. I am mouse quiet however and knife beats gun at 12-15 feet in a closed familiar space. So whatever...... I am with you on the not wanting to shoot my loved ones by mistake, and I haven't pulled the gun out of the safe as a means of household security since my son was born.

It is there if needed though, for more pressing engagements!
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:30 PM   #112
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I bet if USA rescinded gun laws for 1 year they would see a vast drop in murder rates. But money talks over sense I guess.
You can't rescind gun laws in the U.S. without destroying the constitution and without that...... There is no U.S. So go right ahead, if you think it's worth it!!!
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:38 PM   #113
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Does it really improve your agenda to post some pictures about North Korea, Palestine, Lebanon, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.? Associate America with those countries?
He did prove a point with those photos. I'm quite certain the kids in the photos kill the people they are trying to kill. Mostly!!!
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:53 PM   #114
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Gun owners are mostly older. They are slowly dying off so no worries. In 40 years it has gone from 50% to about 30%. As it keeps dropping, the US gets safer and safer. Go figure.
Yes, don't worry the U.S. will be completely taken over by power hungry politicians working for corrupt corporations etc........ soon enough and there will be no way to stop it. Young people enjoy your servitude!!!!
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Old 08-30-2014, 11:51 AM   #115
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Gun owners are mostly older. They are slowly dying off so no worries. In 40 years it has gone from 50% to about 30%. As it keeps dropping, the US gets safer and safer. Go figure.
LOL, where the fuck did you get that made up number?

It's funny how morons like you can't separate the facts from the fiction because of the news sources you look at, There is no definitive data source from the government or elsewhere on how many Americans own guns or how gun ownership rates have changed over time. Also, public opinion surveys provide conflicting results: Some show a decline in the number of households with guns, but another does not. But then this is only what people are willing to admit too, most people that own guns like to keep it quiet, one reason it they don't want people breaking into their home when they are not there to steal them.

Remember that gun sales are up since Obama took office.

As gun sales surged in early 2009 the going joke among employees of gun manufacturers was that President Barack Obama was the ?greatest gun salesman of all time.? The trouble with this backhanded complement, however, is Left-leaning news outlets have since used it to avoid something that really scares them.

As ABC put it, Americans are buying more Glocks and Berettas simply because they fear ?a second Obama administration might restrict gun ownership.? Their reporting conveniently stops right there.

But you with all your fucked up wisdom thinks less people are owning guns now, I call bull shit!
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