Done with VHS. Are we done with DVD ??

[Scott McD]

Just filled a box with loads of DVD's that i haven't watched in ages, so guessing i won't miss them when they are gone. With Netflix and other ways and means of watching movies at home now, the DVD collection i had seemed to do nothing more than take up space. I have kept some separate (and have a more than a few blu-rays), but the rest i will be giving to the local charity shop.

I can remember years ago having the VHS clear out. Didn't think i'd be having the DVD clear out so soon after...


Anyone else done the same ??

[Sly]

Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

I do everything digital now. Occasionally a Blu-ray for a movie that I think might be worth it. Love Plex.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Sly

Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

Yeah i suppose they have been around a while

I remember at the time though thinking they would last for many, many years...

[PAR]

Haven't used a DVD in well over 5 years. *other than for the odd PS3 game

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Sly

Soon after? I bought my first DVD 13 years ago, and I was late to the game.

I do everything digital now. Occasionally a Blu-ray for a movie that I think might be worth it. Love Plex.

Im about to get started with Plex but I hear great things about it. From now on I will also be doing digital on my PS4, it pisses me off that they charge more for a digital copy as opposed to a hard copy, you'd think it would be the same or cheaper.

[Choopa Phil]

DVD has been out for well over 20 years! Time flys when you get older hahah

[DamageX]

Was never really a big movie watcher, so no DVD's here. But it took me until last year to get rid of my huge CD collection. I had all the music on my hard drive already. Hell, most of them I hadn't even bothered to rip to mp3 myself, I just downloaded them online.

I had realized I hadn't touched any of them in at least 10 years a few years ago already. Could just not part with it, until I could no longer justify the space it took.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Done with VHS. Are we done with DVD ??

I thought it happened a long time ago. Even Blu-Ray is dead for years.

[stopitbrrruce]

If I'm renting, I'll rent digitally from Amazon or the cable company.

But if it's a movie I really loved, like a Tarantino movie or something, I'm buying that on Blu-ray. I like having a collection of physical media that I like, displayed in my living room for visitor to see.

Regarding actual Adult DVD sales, I think my colleague Colin said it best:

"Judging by our DVD sales numbers, it will be a very long time [before we are done with DVD]. We have VOD options that are much cheaper than the physical discs, but the collectors aren't interested. They only want DVD's or Blu-rays, and they don't care that there's a cheaper option."

[The Porn Nerd]

Yeah but what about those 'DVD extras'? You know, bonus scenes, alternate takes, commentary, etc? Do they have that shit on Netflix, too?

I am so old. I am going to go play a Doris Day 78 record now. Those 33 1/3 "albums" are just a fad.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Yeah but what about those 'DVD extras'? You know, bonus scenes, alternate takes, commentary, etc? Do they have that shit on Netflix, too?

I am so old. I am going to go play a Doris Day 78 record now. Those 33 1/3 "albums" are just a fad.

I have 3D TV, so I do buy DVD's when they come out in the format I like

[CaptainHowdy]

You should keep them in case Netflix goes down ...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I thought it happened a long time ago. Even Blu-Ray is dead for years.

I wouldn't say Blu-Ray was dead...

3D on the other hand..........

[BlackCrayon]

i still buy certain dvds like series i've been collecting for years, ie the simpsons, south park, etc. though they rarely get watched. i can't part with all my cds either. i never listen to them but i spent so much money on them and have such a huge collection..i just can't do it. as for what i actually watch and listen to, its all digital.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I wouldn't say Blu-Ray was dead...

Blu-Ray is a 20th century technology. It's a mechanical one. Modern technologies are fully digital. A slim plastic card which is less than the nail, it can hold more information than a monster-sized Blu-Ray disk, it works faster, it does not use all those big and noisy and electricity consuming motors and lasers, it doesn't afraid of dust and scratches, it can be re-written again and again and costs just a few bucks. Blu-Ray is dead.

[MrBottomTooth]

If you want the very best in quality there is still no substitute for Blu-ray. Sure, you can go on thepiratebay and download some full Blu-ray rips, but very few of them are uncompressed, other than occasionally when you see 1 or 2 versions of the major releases.

I think anyone running a very large screen and surround sound system would want a fully uncompressed version, whether they rip it to their hard drive or not in the end.

I'm not up on how the legal digital downloads work, but I'm guessing they probably don't offer the 40 to 50 GB downloads you would get if you ripped a Blu-ray 1:1 directly to your computer/media server.

Most are going to be h264 compressed and some won't even include DTS Master Audio tracks. I can just imagine how badly they compress these movies on services like Netflix, etc.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i still buy certain dvds like series i've been collecting for years, ie the simpsons, south park, etc. though they rarely get watched. i can't part with all my cds either. i never listen to them but i spent so much money on them and have such a huge collection..i just can't do it. as for what i actually watch and listen to, its all digital.

I've stopped buying optical disks about 5 years ago. Now I don't have a disk-reader device in my desktop PC at all

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

If you want the very best in quality there is still no substitute for Blu-ray. Sure, you can go on thepiratebay and download some full Blu-ray rips, but very few of them are uncompressed, other than occasionally when you see 1 or 2 versions of the major releases.

I think anyone running a very large screen and surround sound system would want a fully uncompressed version, whether they rip it to their hard drive or not in the end.

I'm not up on how the legal digital downloads work, but I'm guessing they probably don't offer the 40 to 50 GB downloads you would get if you ripped a Blu-ray 1:1 directly to your computer/media server.

Most are going to be h264 compressed and some won't even include DTS Master Audio tracks. I can just imagine how badly they compress these movies on services like Netflix, etc.

also coming with 4k / 8k next year

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

also coming with 4k / 8k next year

Ya, how are they going to handle that I wonder? It's still a luxury to get unlimited bandwidth internet in some areas. I can just imagine the disk space / bandwidth one of those will eat up.

[EonBlue]

Remember when CDs came out? They were supposed to kill vinyl. More and more stuff is coming out on vinyl again. Amazon even has the "CDs and Vinyl" category.

But I guess vinyl is a special case for music because I don't see VHS ever coming back in the same way.

I think DVD is still here for a while though.




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[Rochard]

We still use DVD often enough.

My kid goes to the movies, likes something, and wants it when it comes out on DVD. I also like to watch an entire series all at once, and that's usually on DVD. We have Netflix and Amazon Prime but they don't usually have what I want.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Remember when CDs came out? They were supposed to kill vinyl. More and more stuff is coming out on vinyl again. Amazon even has the "CDs and Vinyl" category.

But I guess vinyl is a special case for music because I don't see VHS ever coming back in the same way.

I think DVD is still here for a while though.
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Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

I know it won't come back into the mainstream. But the record companies probably make decent money from it because the purists will actually pay for the music on vinyl versus almost everyone else who downloads shitty mp3s for free.




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[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Don't kid yourself - vinyl is dead. There will always be a handful of purists who will like vinyl, but it will never "come back".

Last year vinyl was the only music medium with growth and the largest vinyl maker in the country is building out a new factory 4 times their current size.

Come back? No, but it's not dead either. It's no longer a handful of purists. It's a boutique market with plenty going on.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by stopitbrrruce

If I'm renting, I'll rent digitally from Amazon or the cable company.

But if it's a movie I really loved, like a Tarantino movie or something, I'm buying that on Blu-ray. I like having a collection of physical media that I like, displayed in my living room for visitor to see.

Regarding actual Adult DVD sales, I think my colleague Colin said it best:

"Judging by our DVD sales numbers, it will be a very long time [before we are done with DVD]. We have VOD options that are much cheaper than the physical discs, but the collectors aren't interested. They only want DVD's or Blu-rays, and they don't care that there's a cheaper option."

People do not understand all of the markets. You are absolutely 1000% correct. IN last 6 hours alone more than $2000.00 in DVD and blu-rays orders for us.

Our main supplier, collects more than $80 BILLION per year across all their lines of business, DVD and non. When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

To the OP, you should be selling your discs on GEMM if they are not porn. You are pissing money away otherwise.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Just filled a box with loads of DVD's that i haven't watched in ages, so guessing i won't miss them when they are gone. With Netflix and other ways and means of watching movies at home now, the DVD collection i had seemed to do nothing more than take up space. I have kept some separate (and have a more than a few blu-rays), but the rest i will be giving to the local charity shop.

I can remember years ago having the VHS clear out. Didn't think i'd be having the DVD clear out so soon after...


Anyone else done the same ??

Totally. Physical media is completely dead to me. Spotify for music, netflix, iplayer etc for video and Plex with all my ripped stuff on a NAS.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sly

Last year vinyl was the only music medium with growth and the largest vinyl maker in the country is building out a new factory 4 times their current size.

Come back? No, but it's not dead either. It's no longer a handful of purists. It's a boutique market with plenty going on.

New vinyl pressings are going for $25 a disc. Remember when they were $6.95? LOL

So someone is buying them. I just wonder, because of the mixing and engineering now, if new 'albums' by new artists on vinyl sound as good as the classic LPs do. Different studio techniques, everything mixed so 'hot' nowadays (over the red line), makes me wonder.

But The White Album is still a must on vinyl.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

New vinyl pressings are going for $25 a disc. Remember when they were $6.95? LOL

So someone is buying them. I just wonder, because of the mixing and engineering now, if new 'albums' by new artists on vinyl sound as good as the classic LPs do. Different studio techniques, everything mixed so 'hot' nowadays (over the red line), makes me wonder.

But The White Album is still a must on vinyl.

From what I have read, the new vinyls can sound good like the old ones but it depends on how they printed it and the quality of the print. A vinyl does not simply mean it's great quality because it can be done in a poor quality fashion, if that makes sense.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Sly

From what I have read, the new vinyls can sound good like the old ones but it depends on how they printed it and the quality of the print. A vinyl does not simply mean it's great quality because it can be done in a poor quality fashion, if that makes sense.

It does. But I meant the sound of the actual recording. I realize you can go from complete crap re-pressed vinyl to "virgin" vinyl so clear you can see through it which can affect audio quality. But I meant how records (CDs?) are recorded today. They are recorded with digital in mind, and ever since 2000 or so there's been a "noise war" with ever-increasing high ends. The 'red line' peaks and you can hear pops and squeeks. Basically almost everything recorded after 2000 sounds like complete shit, especially "Remasters".

So I wonder how these new recordings sound on vinyl. I should get out my old Technics turntable. LOL

[NatalieK]

Maybe for a lot of webmasters, online media is common & dvd is not used. But keeping it real, yes, dvd is still used by many people & shall be both available & used for many years to come

[SilentKnight]

I still have over 1,000 VHS tapes here in the office, mostly original camera footage from the 80s and 90s. Friends, family, trips...all kinds of events and stuff we did back in the day. We always had the camera with us.

I've copied some of the stuff onto DVD - but only a fraction so far. It's time consuming and tedious. But it needs to be done for preservation. I'm sure the old VHS is beginning to show its age.

But there's so much footage of old friends and family...kickass parties...people I'll never see again, but still remember fondly.

Really need to find the time and inclincation...before the tapes deteriorate too far.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Maybe for a lot of webmasters, online media is common & dvd is not used. But keeping it real, yes, dvd is still used by many people & shall be both available & used for many years to come

Yes.. I think netflix is a joke cause most of the new movies aren't available for streaming for mos after it is released. I do stream movies from amazon from time to time but I much prefer blu rays.

I own around 100 blu rays and about 450 dvds. I rent blu rays locally at Family Video and sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

[MPGdevil]

When the sun one day kill electricity for a month, I'm glad I kept my porn magazines from the 80'ies.

[Look Chang]

Same time, vinyl records sales are increasing !

Listening music from vinyl on a decent home sound system comparing to mp3 on earphones are two different worlds.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by SBJ

sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

This is a great idea, especially as you can build a genuine collection of movies, watchable anytime & any place, such a good price, I bet many people buy & then sell after just a few weeks too

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

People do not understand all of the markets. You are absolutely 1000% correct. IN last 6 hours alone more than $2000.00 in DVD and blu-rays orders for us.

Our main supplier, collects more than $80 BILLION per year across all their lines of business, DVD and non. When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

I agree DVD sales are far from being dead, but $80 billion is hard to believe considering entertainment giant Disney only has trailing 12 month revenues of $48 billion. If you're referring to Amazon's trailing 12 month revenues of $82 billion, that includes plenty of products that are not entertainment related.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

This is a great idea, especially as you can build a genuine collection of movies, watchable anytime & any place, such a good price, I bet many people buy & then sell after just a few weeks too

ya blockbuster use to do the same thing back when they had retail stores. Rental places buy a ton of big new releases for rental and then sell off excess copies after the demand slows down.

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

When baby boomer generations are 6 feet under, maybe its dead. Maybe.

dvd maybe but discs like blu ray or 4k will still be around for a longtime.

How much bandwidth would it take to stream a 4k full length movie? I don't think internet providers will keep offering unlimited BW for home for very much longer. Who is going to pay $100+ a month internet bills to stream movies.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

I agree DVD sales are far from being dead, but $80 billion is hard to believe considering entertainment giant Disney only has trailing 12 month revenues of $48 billion. If you're referring to Amazon's trailing 12 month revenues of $82 billion, that includes plenty of products that are not entertainment related.

Hi
You are absolutely right about not being all for entertainment or dvd for that matter. But its a smart thinking company with many lines of business. Every month in Tokyo there are hundreds of releases. The volume is staggering. The long slide to nil is happening but it will be a long slow slide. DVD is still preferred adult medium here. You pay in cash to a store on the other side of town and Oila you got porn! You can buy DVDs and blu-rays for 5 bucks up to $100+ for the specialty stuff. And seemingly studios cannot pump it out fast enough. Making a farting video is not cheap apparently.

Imagine being a vertically integrated business with many product lines and services. I can't say more but its a refreshing way to think about how to make things work in entertainment and adult. Diversity. Audiences crave it but not so many deliver it in the west as effectively as Asians do. Some smart motherfuckers.

I liken it to the comedian Steve Allen who said "I always have 14 jobs going. When 7 or 8 are sucking, I still have 7 or 8 more." Remember him? He's the guy who could take 2-3 notes and turn it into a song on the spot on live tv.

BTW, Disney Tokyo is really great too. I am kinda conflicted with Disney, their politics etc but once I'm on the Star Wars ride for the 5th time in 2 hours...I just don't care.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SBJ

Yes.. I think netflix is a joke cause most of the new movies aren't available for streaming for mos after it is released. I do stream movies from amazon from time to time but I much prefer blu rays.

I own around 100 blu rays and about 450 dvds. I rent blu rays locally at Family Video and sometimes I'll buy used copies of blu rays for $6 or $7. Can't beat that for buying new release movies a week or two after it's released.

You rent Blu Rays for a few dollars a pop but you think Netflix is a joke at $10 a month?

For $10 a month, you cannot beat Netflix. Whether or not they have the latest movies has nothing to do with it. Massive archive of great TV shows, documentaries, older (slightly) movies, and exclusive TV shows.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

[brassmonkey]

what???? sly thedizy.com is a dead site in the footer sent u a email like a week ago

[Jel]

get the best of both worlds - you can't beat sticking a torrent ripped dvd on to watch with your kids

[Sly]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what???? sly thedizy.com is a dead site in the footer sent u a email like a week ago

And it is being checked out.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Sly

You rent Blu Rays for a few dollars a pop but you think Netflix is a joke at $10 a month?

For $10 a month, you cannot beat Netflix. Whether or not they have the latest movies has nothing to do with it. Massive archive of great TV shows, documentaries, older (slightly) movies, and exclusive TV shows.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

I rent or buy new release movies when they come out. I go to see one or two movies a year, but want to see blockbusters the day they are released to dvd.

Last time I tried netflix a few years ago I could only get one or two blu rays at a time and had to wait forever till it was available to stream. I don't need netflix for tv shows as I have direct tv with a dvr.

Doesn't sound like apples to oranges to me

[Sly]

Originally Posted by SBJ

I rent or buy new release movies when they come out. I go to see one or two movies a year, but want to see blockbusters the day they are released to dvd.

Last time I tried netflix a few years ago I could only get one or two blu rays at a time and had to wait forever till it was available to stream. I don't need netflix for tv shows as I have direct tv with a dvr.

Doesn't sound like apples to oranges to me

And there you have it.

DVR can get you full back seasons?

[Sunny Day]

Why pay Netflix when my library has a large movie and music selection I can check out for free?

On FaceBook there's a vinyl group that has 17,000 members. The other day one member was bitching about a new pressing for $50.

CDs will be around for awhile. They have a lot of commercial uses. A lot of ads, usually aimed toward seniors, will send them a free CD touting their expensive product. I worked for several large corporations and they got their monthly bank statements on CD, as the banks didn't want to have to electronically store years of bank statements and check images. Same way with payroll whether it's done in house or using a payroll processing company, it was was stored on CDs. Unless the bank and customers all go to blue ray they're going to stick with CDs.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by SBJ

ya blockbuster use to do the same thing back when they had retail stores. Rental places buy a ton of big new releases for rental and then sell off excess copies after the demand slows down.

Our father had a chain of shops, brand new, the older VHS titles were £60 a copy when brand new

[Cherry7]

Can the Internet deliver full standard def TV?

Can the Internet deliver full HD ?

The only source of real HD is blu ray and so if you want to watch a good film projected blu ray is the only way to go.

Some DVD are very good too projected old black and white classics.

Films projected from the Internet fall apart. Give it another 20 years.

4K on Netflix is great of you think 8 bit colour is the way to go.

[Magnetron]

I still record stuff to VHS .... even got the Roku wired through an RF converter so I can tape Hulu and Netflix without it turning out black and white.

[H-Tom]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Blu-Ray is a 20th century technology. It's a mechanical one. Modern technologies are fully digital. A slim plastic card which is less than the nail, it can hold more information than a monster-sized Blu-Ray disk, it works faster, it does not use all those big and noisy and electricity consuming motors and lasers, it doesn't afraid of dust and scratches, it can be re-written again and again and costs just a few bucks. Blu-Ray is dead.

Bluray is not dead. Millions of games on BR disks are being sold every month.

Also 4K 3D movies encoded with h.256 that will come in 2015 requires 100GB of space.
Good luck with downloading it and keeping on a hard drive.

[XXXBizXXX]

Discs are dead.