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Old 08-13-2014, 11:20 AM   #101
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He meant majority in the country no in every single region or city. Unless you want to give the right to separate to every region and city in Russia.
Last ones who tried were Chechens.
So in Yugoslavia it was completely opposite, separatists were supported by west and got military and political help. Stop bullshit, this not about principles and justice but about big powers goals.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:26 AM   #102
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He meant majority in the country
Sounds very stupid already. Should I explain why?
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:20 PM   #103
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So in Yugoslavia it was completely opposite, separatists were supported by west and got military and political help. Stop bullshit, this not about principles and justice but about big powers goals.
There was war before NATO's military action not because of it. Eg. people in Srebrenica were actually abandoned by the West.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:32 PM   #104
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i assume this would not happen if russian terrorists stopped occupying ukrainian territory
EXACTLY.

besides, most of these civil buildings are destroyed by russian terrorists not by Ukrainian army. they intentionally try to destroy as many infrastructure as possible and kill as many civilians as possible.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:35 PM   #105
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There was war before NATO's military action not because of it. Eg. people in Srebrenica were actually abandoned by the West.
no, there was because west was support it and advises how to start secession.

Muslims first accepted peace but after Alija Izetbegovic ,their leader and mujahedin supporter (you probably know video where he is saluting mujahedeen brigade in Bosnia) came back from US (just like US is now giving advice to idiots in Ukraine, how to make war even worse) peace treaty was canceled. (serbs, croats and muslims agreed on peace before that).

And about Srebrenica, I will now paste you what Canadian general Lewis Mackenzie (chief of stuff, UN in Bosnia) wrote.

"It didn't take long for the Bosnian Muslims to realize that the UN was in no position to live up to its promise to "protect" Srebrenica. With some help from outsiders, they began to infiltrate thousands of fighters and weapons into the safe haven. As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN's safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent.

The Bosnian Serbs might have had the heaviest weapons, but the Bosnian Muslims matched them in infantry skills that were much in demand in the rugged terrain around Srebrenica. As the snow cleared in the spring of 1995, it became obvious to Nasar Oric, the man who led the Bosnian Muslim fighters, that the Bosnian Serb army was going to attack Srebrenica to stop him from attacking Serb villages. So he and a large number of his fighters slipped out of town. Srebrenica was left undefended with the strategic thought that, if the Serbs attacked an undefended town, surely that would cause NATO and the UN to agree that NATO air strikes against the Serbs were justified. And so the Bosnian Serb army strolled into Srebrenica without opposition.

What happened next is only debatable in scale. The Bosnian Muslim men and older boys were singled out and the elderly, women and children were moved out or pushed in the direction of Tuzla and safety. It's a distasteful point, but it has to be said that, if you're committing genocide, you don't let the women go since they are key to perpetuating the very group you are trying to eliminate. Many of the men and boys were executed and buried in mass graves.

Evidence given at The Hague war crimes tribunal casts serious doubt on the figure of "up to" 8,000 Bosnian Muslims massacred. That figure includes "up to" 5,000 who have been classified as missing. More than 2,000 bodies have been recovered in and around Srebrenica, and they include victims of the three years of intense fighting in the area. The math just doesn't support the scale of 8,000 killed

Evidence given at The Hague war crimes tribunal casts serious doubt on the figure of "up to" 8,000 Bosnian Muslims massacred. That figure includes "up to" 5,000 who have been classified as missing. More than 2,000 bodies have been recovered in and around Srebrenica, and they include victims of the three years of intense fighting in the area. The math just doesn't support the scale of 8,000 killed.

Nasar Oric, the Bosnian Muslim military leader in Srebrenica, is currently on trial in The Hague for war crimes committed during his "defence" of the town. Evidence to date suggests that he was responsible for killing as many Serb civilians outside Srebrenica as the Bosnian Serb army was for massacring Bosnian Muslims inside the town.
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Old 08-14-2014, 06:41 AM   #106
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EXACTLY.

besides, most of these civil buildings are destroyed by russian terrorists not by Ukrainian army. they intentionally try to destroy as many infrastructure as possible and kill as many civilians as possible.
Are you high? So called terrorist blew up civilian apartments? Sure, they went few miles away from town and then used artillery. Sounds right.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:21 AM   #107
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EXACTLY.

besides, most of these civil buildings are destroyed by russian terrorists not by Ukrainian army. they intentionally try to destroy as many infrastructure as possible and kill as many civilians as possible.


amazing .... lol
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