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Old 03-27-2014, 11:40 AM   #1
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Cam white label flagged for 'thin content' (Google)

Is this a new thing google is doing to all live cam white labels....or was I just singled out and manually reported by some small dik fagget ? (that could of been jealous that my listing was higher than his in Google)

Basically it's a domain of mine hosted on a popular white label cam affiliate program...which has been popular and mainstream for awhile now.

This morning I got an email from google saying that site of mine has been labeled as spam with 'thin content'.

their giving me the option to notify them once more content has been added.

It's a white label....with thousands of pages / live webcams. The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...just the live cam pages that were allowed to promote.

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Old 03-27-2014, 11:46 AM   #2
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But isn't that exactly what a whitelabel is... thin content? It's an exact copy of the source site and it will always risk being penalized (unless you have it as an integrated add-on on some site).
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same problem here, received also the same shit today
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What Cam provider? Name the program.
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my frustrations with google are beyond belief. first they f around with their freakin search engine results , so that only the rich and powerful get whatever positioning they want.

and now this...

White labels are going to need to make it mandatory to make affiliates create at-least 5 to 10 pages of unique content before being accepted as a white label affiliate. (i'm guessing) or some other method to deal with google's increasing nanny-like bullsht. Google might not even accept those...and consider them doorway pages... thus, rejection #2.

gotta do my f'n taxes...don't have time for this sht.

if you haven't been hit yet, you probably will eventually. seems like their doing this to ALL white labels...and any sites similar in quality.

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I just messaged xpimp.

and were on 2 completely different white labels.

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Old 03-27-2014, 01:33 PM   #7
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Happened to me, too. Different sponsors.
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But isn't that exactly what a whitelabel is... thin content? It's an exact copy of the source site and it will always risk being penalized (unless you have it as an integrated add-on on some site).
+1

Plus Google is pretty much declaring war on affiliates who aren't going over and beyond to provide new content or value. It sounds like a bunch of buzz words and cliche industry bullshit advice but it's basically true that if it can be easily discovered that you are an affiliate Google is probably going to knock you down.
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their freakin search engine results , so that only the rich and powerful get whatever positioning they want.
By the way streamate, AWE etc. are rich and powerful but they got hit by Google. I think google results are simply an "algorithm" catching whoever and whatever according to the algorithm, no matter you rich or powerful. Still if you're so rich, you can buy adverts in Google
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I got the same notice a couple weeks ago.
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so there are hundreds or thousands domains with the same content on one IP and Google penalises them? unbelievable!
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lol got the same email this morning.. Its w/e never been a big fan of whitelabels
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Looks like this one is going to be big. Adapt or die...
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Looks like we have "mobile redirect" drama again.WL are bad in eyes of google,end of story.If you want to avoid it,find a cam sponsor which allow you to add your descriptions/content/whatever.
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my frustrations with google are beyond belief.

on this day... google did not give a fuck about you.

Neither will it tomorrow or any other day for that matter.
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on this day... google did not give a fuck about you.
Just saying, but if you was running a search engine company yourself, and your mission it was to put on top the unique content, and on bottom the not-unique content, what would you do with whitelabels?
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Even Mona Lisa fake pictures are unique because every faker couldn't resist the temptation to put his personal fingerprint.

So who is fake then, the orginal Mona Lisa or the fake one?

This line is a must when you submit the reconsideration request for Google and they could not hep but admit that is true.

Brb, must smoke some more shit...
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One word "Competition". They will do anything to get higher ranks including all dirty stuff possible. Happened to me with some other mainstream sites. But what can be done about it? Basically nothing.
This is one of my biggest concerns promoting anything online. Although I don't spam, my sites are 100% secure and nice they get bullshit from Google and Google is the master here.

Lol I just got some top notch keyword adult cam domains a few days ago... now I'm wondering more and more what to do with it.
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I'm guessing this means all white labels will eventually be on the hook.

Tube sites, reseller white labels , etc..
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Plus Google is pretty much declaring war on affiliates who aren't going over and beyond to provide new content or value. It sounds like a bunch of buzz words and cliche industry bullshit advice but it's basically true that if it can be easily discovered that you are an affiliate Google is probably going to knock you down.
google anything right now.. doesn't even have to be adult related. first page.. all affiliates of some sort.

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I'm guessing this means all white labels will eventually be on the hook.

Tube sites, reseller white labels , etc..
Ours are still ranking well with our webmasters. Do cam WL take people off site normally?
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THe days of organic google traffic and white labels are over mate.
You are lucky you got a notice
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THe days of organic google traffic and white labels are over mate.
You are lucky you got a notice
google any adult cam term. mostly white labels.
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happened to my mt wl too.
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Google got traffic to sell you, the SEO traffic thing is just a free trial, that period has now come to an end for your site
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google any adult cam term. mostly white labels.
http://www.google.com/ncr#gl=us&goog... safe=off&fp=1

http://www.google.com/ncr#gl=us&goog... afe=off&fp=1

http://www.google.com/ncr#gl=us&goog... safe=off&fp=1

The whitelabels I see are just bongasexcams.com and bongaxxx.com , so the word bonga is hot. Just, normally whitelabels do not allow to use the main name (like streamatexxx or streamatesexcam), but seems bongacams whitelabels allows bonga in their doman name? And whitelabels with word bonga in are ranked in first page upepr than bongacams itself - funny google.
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Damn, just as I'm setting some up with a new sponsor. Will happen to them all eventually I suppose.
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Have seen some of my white labels rank, then drop, then rank again but honestly don't expect anything from them as I link white labels from my other existing sites= traffic/sales. Wouldn't expect something that takes minimal effort to be a rockstar.

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http://www.google.com/ncr#gl=us&goog... afe=off&fp=1

http://www.google.com/ncr#gl=us&goog... safe=off&fp=1

The whitelabels I see are just bongasexcams.com and bongaxxx.com , so the word bonga is hot. Just, normally whitelabels do not allow to use the main name (like streamatexxx or streamatesexcam), but seems bongacams whitelabels allows bonga in their doman name? And whitelabels with word bonga in are ranked in first page upepr than bongacams itself - funny google.
that spammer knows how to use black hat tools, he has also a lot of webcamwiz WLs ranking for most cam terms (including live sex, live porn, webcam sex etc.), all his WLs have pure spammy backlinks and Google is too dump to notice.
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that spammer knows how to use black hat tools, he has also a lot of webcamwiz WLs ranking for most cam terms (including live sex, live porn, webcam sex etc.), all his WLs have pure spammy backlinks and Google is too dump to notice.
Report him to google?
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the next issue is if white label programs start droppin webmasters in general....fearing it's ruining their own business...having thousands of copies of their own sites out there.

tube white labels included..

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All WLs will be hit by google (sooner or later) and it's very fair, you can't rank the same shit over and over, if you want to rank in google then you must built your own site with original content and hosted on a real host! It's simple adapt or die!
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All WLs will be hit by google (sooner or later) and it's very fair, you can't rank the same shit over and over, if you want to rank in google then you must built your own site with original content and hosted on a real host! It's simple adapt or die!
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Did your sites get completely removed from the index?
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All WLs will be hit by google (sooner or later) and it's very fair, you can't rank the same shit over and over, if you want to rank in google then you must built your own site with original content and hosted on a real host! It's simple adapt or die!
Our cam program tubecamgirl.com never provided whitelabels, but honestly is not because we forecasted that google will penalize WLs... we do this just for branding, like MFC don't provided WLs.

I am quite sure that having no WLs helped for a while, until months ago we enjoyed fist page rank #2 or #3 place for "free cam girls" type of searches, just under chaturbate and often upper than myfreecams, which makes no sense but we didn't complained.

However, recently for same searches we're at page 2 or even #3, so rank 10th-30th, and we did not changed anything on our end. That's maybe fair as we're not top #5 cam site in the world really, but let me comment on... why google have pushed up in top page some WLs as bongaxxx.com or bongasexcams.com , putting down original content cam sites with no WL's?

My guess it is, since "bongacams.com" it was the fastest growing domain in the cams scope recently, the algorithm associated the keyword cams with bonga, and so pushed up whatever domain with bonga in it. That's where machine learnin AI fails against human editing, now "bonga" is a sex cams keyword for google

For some reason, for 3 and 4 word searches there's less bonga WLs, so we're still in first page (barely) for "free girl cams" #9, "free web cam girls" #9:

http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1
http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1

I am not going to add "bonga" words in pages, of course, but SEO guys should take note.
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Did your sites get completely removed from the index?
Mine were not. Still getting decent traffic (4 digit number) even with this "thin content" thing, ~40% less Google traffic. This seems bad enough when it comes to sales, though.
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somebody should propose the question to Cutts the Putz ... So he could do a silly, little Youtube presentation on it.

what he feels Google's future stance on white labels is. because we need to know.

any others been getting the same Google Spam notices? plz mention the label affected as well if possible.
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If he thinks that scraper tubes are duplicate content, then it's reasonable to assume he thinks the same about white labels. Even ones that can be customized.
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It's a white label... The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...
Well that's the problem then isn't it?

Look at it from Google's perspective: why would they want to litter their listings with "The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have."

Do you think that's what Google's users want?

Folks always harp about these penalties, but it's like if you ran a tube site with 1,000s of copies of the same clip, or a gallery post that all featured the same FHGs submitted by different wms

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Old 04-05-2014, 07:17 AM   #47
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Hes does not talk of whitelabels there, have him ever explicit talked of whitelabels?
What he say there it is: don't use iframe banners, rss feeds etc., instead write an unique review about each site you promote, with an affiliate link in it. So review sites (and forum posters) should have a very good time, is that so?
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:26 AM   #48
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Not too many people are creating those sites because they are so no profitable to monetize. They cannot compare with a sex cam site which provides an entertaining experience for the user and makes him come back again and again to spend more. Let Cutts the Putz to create them and make a living after those, i will not waste my time with some shit like that.

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Old 04-05-2014, 02:59 PM   #49
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The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...just the live cam pages that were allowed to promote.
Did you expect anything else from creating a spam page auto-filled with reused-same(exact) content as 1000's of other sites?

If somene reported it, then you obviously stepped on their toes with spam content.. sorry.. dont feel sorry for you.
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:04 PM   #50
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Let me add that people are misusing whitelabels. Using them as a site in itself.. Stupid move.

You cant compete with unique content and when you do.. it short-lived. Whitelabels are meant for inclusions in already built and legit sites. Such as we do with one of our sites.

We used a while label co-branded to our site and offered it up on a subdmain as added extra stuff for the viewer. Heck, its not even indexed because we know, you cant rank in search engines on 1000-time duplicated content. It's meant for added bonus and co-branding.. not as a product in itself. Cam programs that tell you different aren't speaking in your best interest, only theirs, while eventually shooting themselves in the foot.
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