Would you???

[brassmonkey]

flip burgers for $15 an hour??

Fast food workers prepare to escalate wage demands

CHICAGO (AP) -- Fast food workers say they're prepared to escalate their campaign for higher wages and union representation, starting with a national convention in suburban Chicago where more than 1,000 workers are expected to discuss the future of the effort that has spread to dozens of cities in less than two years.

About 1,300 workers will attend sessions Friday and Saturday at an expo center in Villa Park, Illinois, where they'll be asked to do "whatever it takes" to win $15-an-hour wages and a union, said Kendall Fells, organizing director of the national effort and a representative of the Service Employees International Union.

The union has been providing financial and organizational support to the fast-food protests that began in late 2012 in New York City and have included daylong strikes and a protest outside this year's McDonald's Corp. shareholder meeting that resulted in more than 130 arrests.

"We want to talk about building leadership, power and doing whatever it takes depending on what city they're in and what the moment calls for," said Fells, adding that the ramped-up actions will be "more high profile" and could include everything from civil disobedience to intensified efforts to organize workers.

"I personally think we need to get more workers involved and shut these businesses down until they listen to us," perhaps even by occupying the restaurants, said Cherri Delisline, a 27-year-old single mother from Charleston, South Carolina, who has worked at McDonald's for 10 years and makes $7.35 an hour.

Delisline said she and her four girls live with her mother, but the family still has difficulty paying utilities and the mortgage while providing for her children. She said she has not been to a doctor in two years and does not get paid if she stays home sick.

"To have a livable wage, it's going to need to be $15 an hour," said Delisline. "We make the owners enough money that they have houses and cars and their kids are taken care of. Why don't (they) make sure I can be able to do the same for my kids and my family?" she said.

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[ottopottomouse]

"I personally think we need to get more workers involved and shut these businesses down until they listen to us," perhaps even by occupying the restaurants, said Cherri Delisline, a 27-year-old single mother from Charleston, South Carolina, who has worked at McDonald's for 10 years and makes $7.35 an hour.

Delisline said she and her four girls live with her mother, but the family still has difficulty paying utilities and the mortgage while providing for her children. She said she has not been to a doctor in two years and does not get paid if she stays home sick.

"To have a livable wage, it's going to need to be $15 an hour," said Delisline. "We make the owners enough money that they have houses and cars and their kids are taken care of. Why don't (they) make sure I can be able to do the same for my kids and my family?" she said.

I Know they scrape the bottom of the barrel on recruitment but why does nobody ever tell these morons that it's not supposed to be a family-supporting career.

[Tom_PM]

Good for them. Just because it's a kind of food that people look down on, and then most go jam it into their gullets, doesn't mean they can't try for more money.

Fast food employees are mostly older people now, isn't that right? Naturally they're more prone to have full families. It's not a high school kids summer part time job anymore that they ditch after 2 weeks.

[CDSmith]

"Burger Flipper Wanted -- $*.**/hr. THIS is what the job pays. It is better than minimum wage. If you want the job it's yours. If you want to bitch and moan about the pay then don't take the job, piss off and whine somewhere else"

If I owned a fast food joint and could fit all that on a sign, that's the sign I'd have up.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Fast food employees are mostly older people now, isn't that right? Naturally they're more prone to have full families. It's not a high school kids summer part time job anymore that they ditch after 2 weeks.

Quoted woman is 27 and has been working there 10 years. She didn't have 4 kids before she started at 17.

[brassmonkey]

would you flip the fucking burgers at $15 an hour????

[Tom_PM]

McD's tripled the pay package in 2013 for it's CEO from 4.1 million in 2011 to 13.8 million. I think they'll be fine.

Raising wages lifts people out of poverty levels, out of welfare, off of food stamps and then they actually buy shit. Shit like durable goods, homes, autos. This baloney about tax cuts for the rich trickling down and keeping people at less than poverty level incomes is so ingrained that it's a bit more than scary.

It's either $15 an hour from their employer, or $15 an hour from employer plus welfare and food stamps. Voting for no raises is a vote for more of your tax money going out. Only high income people with a very low tax rate would want that. Keep those serfs busy in the exercise wheel that is their life.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

would you flip the fucking burgers at $15 an hour????

If I had to, I would. Pride goeth before a fall.

[PaperstreetWinston]

Originally Posted by ruff

If I had to, I would. Pride goeth before a fall.

well said my good man

[potter]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

would you flip the fucking burgers at $15 an hour????

I wouldn't flip burgers for $30/hour

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

McD's tripled the pay package in 2013 for it's CEO from 4.1 million in 2011 to 13.8 million. I think they'll be fine.

Raising wages lifts people out of poverty levels, out of welfare, off of food stamps and then they actually buy shit. Shit like durable goods, homes, autos. This baloney about tax cuts for the rich trickling down and keeping people at less than poverty level incomes is so ingrained that it's a bit more than scary.

It's either $15 an hour from their employer, or $15 an hour from employer plus welfare and food stamps. Voting for no raises is a vote for more of your tax money going out. Only high income people with a very low tax rate would want that. Keep those serfs busy in the exercise wheel that is their life.

That raise they gave their CEO is nothing compared to the added cost of hiking wages to $15/hr.

The Wage Hike to $15 Would Cost McDonald?s $8 Billion

Keep in mind also that the managers and assistant managers who were making $12 or $15 or whatever per hour before will also need raises to retain their value relative to their subordinates.

All a move like this will do is drive up inflation and the cost of living so that these people will be right back where they started.

[mineistaken]

If you want to earn more educate yourself, work on yourself and aim for a better jobs.
Rabble does not understand that, they just demand more money... Disgrace.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

All a move like this will do is drive up inflation and the cost of living so that these people will be right back where they started.

Too complicated concept for "give us free money" crowd.
In some oil state flippers already earn that or more, everybody earns more there, but so is the housing and living costs...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

If you want to earn more educate yourself, work on yourself and aim for a better jobs.
Rabble does not understand that, they just demand more money... Disgrace.

bullshit! there are rich people never finished school! its who you know and who the people you know know. you ever hear the term over overqualified? they are not going to hire an out of work doctor to flip burgers for 30 bucks an hour there are on the job training they pay pretty well. flipping burgers is easy they want easy.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

flipping burgers is easy they want easy.

Thats what I say. They want easy job, but also demand wages that is earned by people doing harder jobs. Freeloading rabble.

[seeandsee]

I guess if i get to usa to work, i could flip it to earn extra money

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

I guess if i get to usa to work, i could flip it to earn extra money

these people are not too bright! the burger places they work are the lower paying. the key is work at the stadium mc donalds! its almost doubled wages! they are in new york! id go with the baseball stadium it has the most games in a year also try to get work at basket ball stadium the wages are much greater.

[Harmon]

Fucking fast food is an entry level job. Any moron that thinks that a job like this SHOULD support them and their entire family is an idiot. It's a job to pay car insurance at 16 for Mom & Dad as a sign of good faith to get them to co-sign on a car loan for a Ford Fiesta so that they no longer have to drive your ass around to your friend's houses any longer.

People are so fucking stupid.

If you want a CAREER? Fund your education or training with a job like McDonalds or Burger King.

I find it utterly and completely ironic who the fucking thread starter was. Amazing

[Sly]

When discussing minimum wage everyone seems to forget that there are many people earning an amount between the current minimum wage and the requested minimum wage. Guess what happens with all of those people? They get a raise, too, and it's going to be even bigger than the minimum wage hike because they are worth the extra few dollars.

Then of course none of this counts increased payroll taxes into the equation. The new healthcare law taxes. Increased city and state taxes that go along with increased payroll. So on and so forth.

Right now it may not make financial sense for a given company to automate various tasks within the workplace. We'll say flipping burgers since that is the hot topic. Guess what starts to make financial sense when the overall cost of said employee triples due to the minimum wage jack, the other employee wage jack, the payroll tax increase, the health care tax, so on and so forth? Yeah, full on burger flipping automation starts looking really, really nice.

In the long run this will benefit the smart businesses because it will force them to run tighter operations that are fully automated, cutting expenses and putting out better products. It will absolutely kill the lower skilled workers because they will no longer have jobs available to them. This is already happening. Think about this the next time you stand in line at work demanding your McDonald's bosses pay you $15 an hour. Soon you won't have a burger to flip.

[L-Pink]

So the owners of low end rental properties won't raise rents to take advantage of higher minimum wages? Everything will just get higher.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sly

When discussing minimum wage everyone seems to forget that there are many people earning an amount between the current minimum wage and the requested minimum wage. Guess what happens with all of those people? They get a raise, too, and it's going to be even bigger than the minimum wage hike because they are worth the extra few dollars.

Then of course none of this counts increased payroll taxes into the equation. The new healthcare law taxes. Increased city and state taxes that go along with increased payroll. So on and so forth.

Right now it may not make financial sense for a given company to automate various tasks within the workplace. We'll say flipping burgers since that is the hot topic. Guess what starts to make financial sense when the overall cost of said employee triples due to the minimum wage jack, the other employee wage jack, the payroll tax increase, the health care tax, so on and so forth? Yeah, full on burger flipping automation starts looking really, really nice.

In the long run this will benefit the smart businesses because it will force them to run tighter operations that are fully automated, cutting expenses and putting out better products. It will absolutely kill the lower skilled workers because they will no longer have jobs available to them. This is already happening. Think about this the next time you stand in line at work demanding your McDonald's bosses pay you $15 an hour. Soon you won't have a burger to flip.

this is why over 85% of the food served is tampered with they should go to prison when caught. they are pissed now enjoy the extra free shit they put in your food

[Robbie]

None of it really matters.

IF this kind of thing is forced on McDonald's, they will simply automate. There really is no reason in the year 2014 to have a human being taking my order over a shitty speaker and then taking my money.

The order can be done via a screen and the money inserted right there on the spot: just like an ATM does.

They could easily eliminate over half the jobs there.

Maybe then everyone will be happy as we add even more people to the record amount of folks already on foodstamps in this country.

And of course...there will be NO "entry level" jobs left for young people just starting out in life.

Yeah...that's a great idea. Less jobs and MORE young people without work. Pure genius.

[pornmasta]

$15*8*21= 120*21=2100+420=$2520

1875 euros per month ?
Not in paris, but here, why not.