.xxx - the best way to stop censorship.

[Lensman]

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

[polish_aristocrat]

Lensman has spoken.

[polish_aristocrat]

I still see it as a bad thing though

[FilthyRob]

Domain hawks are going to swoop in and buy millions the first day just to resell.

[Juicy D. Links]

"The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose

[Joesho]

I think if they change it, then the flod gatess should open up again, just like a new land grab.

if it is a whole ne w system, then fair trade practices would deem that as the only way to go.

[Doctor Dre]

Exactly my thoughts about it . People are freaking out cauz they think Nazi will block all .xxx .

When it's ready, I'l definitly move my paysites on there . I'l keep the .coms too, but I'l use the .xxx to promote it

[taibo]

george bush looks at porn too!

[JamesK2]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

"The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose

What he said. But that probably won't happen.

[chadglni]

If it's voluntary to put sites there I don't see them letting the .com owners get first pick. I mean a trademarked name sure, but freeporn.xxx should be up for grabs.

[chadglni]

I understand people wanting their current domain.xxx but do all of you have your domain registered for every tld that is out there? Or do you just want to have first pick when it's a TLD you like?

[ronaldo]

I agree with you on that point, but that's only dealing with one issue. Censorship. That's also ASSUMING they still won't censor those domains.

When they start to suggest/enforce new regulations, new fees, new porn taxes and whatever the hell else they can think of to disrupt our industry, it's easy to see why this is worse than 2257.

I'm not worried that many if any isp's will block the domain. I'm worried about the entire community being segregated SOLELY for the purpose of making monitoring and regulating our industry easier.

[NaughtyRob]

Originally Posted by Lensman

The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs.

Very good point.

[azguy]

I doubt they will give .com owners any priority unless they own the appropriate trademark. It will be too difficult for them to manage such transition.. ain't gonna happen IMHO.

[Penthouse Tony]

So if the guy with the .com gets the .xxx what happens to the guy with .net? Is he assed out? That would suck.

[PhillipB]

You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.

[Tango]

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

I am in 100% agreement - as long as I have first crack at what I worked my ass of to buy, trade, etc.. then I have no problem other than the sky-high price that they want to put on the registration fees

[BVF]

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

yeah but you're forgetting about people who will still want to censor pornography because they think it's obscene...

xxx will do NOTHING to get the heat off.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

So if the guy with the .com gets the .xxx what happens to the guy with .net? Is he assed out? That would suck.

Everyone is speaking as if the tld is going to launch as mandatory. It's not. It should open up like every other damn tld and first come first serve.

[jf2404]

This is what a guy at ICM Registry said in an e-mail to me.

We will be expecting names to go on General Sale to members of the Community in the 4th Quarter of 2005.

Prior to that there will be a period whereby potential registrants that have Intellectual Property interests in specific names can come forward to register that interest in those names and such names will be equitably allocated and subject to a recognized dispute resolution policy , where more than one party makes a claim over a particular domain name.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by Tango

I am in 100% agreement - as long as I have first crack at what I worked my ass of to buy, trade, etc.. then I have no problem other than the sky-high price that they want to put on the registration fees

I busted my ass branding a targetted .net. So I'm just fucked because someone else gets first dibs since they got .com? Ha, hell no.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

As long as there is enforcement for all the sites using .net and .org (all the other ones other than porn that aren't using the tld the way it was meant).

[Shoehorn!]

Originally Posted by Lensman

The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

Thats the key I think. Has this type of thing been addressed at all?

[MichaelP]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

I agree with you on that point, but that's only dealing with one issue. Censorship. That's also ASSUMING they still won't censor those domains.

When they start to suggest/enforce new regulations, new fees, new porn taxes and whatever the hell else they can think of to disrupt our industry, it's easy to see why this is worse than 2257.

I'm not worried that many if any isp's will block the domain. I'm worried about the entire community being segregated SOLELY for the purpose of making monitoring and regulating our industry easier.

Good point Ron...

Nothing can stop Gov in few years, from asking tons of annual fees to maintain your .xxx domain as a hidden tax...

Big guys will pay it anyway, so why they (the gov) shouldn't do that... Smaller guys will let their domains goes, up to grab from big guys who will be bale to pay the big fees....

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Actually I'm against it. If people/parents are too ingnorant/cheap/lazy to buy filtering software then they can fuck off.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by jf2404

This is what a guy at ICM Registry said in an e-mail to me.

We will be expecting names to go on General Sale to members of the Community in the 4th Quarter of 2005.

Prior to that there will be a period whereby potential registrants that have Intellectual Property interests in specific names can come forward to register that interest in those names and such names will be equitably allocated and subject to a recognized dispute resolution policy , where more than one party makes a claim over a particular domain name.

How they handle this aspect of it is going to be a big deal. If they give out keyword.xxx just because someone has keyword.com it's going to be a shitstorm.

[Dalai lama]

Originally Posted by Lensman

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

Agreed

[BillyHoe]

Originally Posted by APN Philip

You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.

i agree

[webair]

I don't think that could ever happen...giving .xxx names to current .com registrants would be so much work for them...good idea though.

[Snake Doctor]

I agree with you Lens.....as long as I can own all the .xxx's to match the .com's I currently own I won't have a problem with it.

Plus if the gov't forces us to move to .xxx then they're acknowledging that we exist and have a right to publish our content on the web

[Nismo]

I'm still trying to understand how it is supposed to protect children.

[LeeNoga]

I agree with all the above, this is gonna open a ton of lawsuits, and who knows maybe legally break the new .XXX owners...next thing you know Acacia will buy out this registrar and the .XXX will sue the .COM owners for trademark issues.

The only way this would work is to make it voluntary and make the .XXX a grabfest and not give .com owners entitlements.

I don't see any precedence for this with the other TLD's.

[Trax]

ok
so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
nah.
based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
now... am I fucked or not??

what you assume is not going to work
just my two cents

[pxxx]

Sounds like a strategy to me.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by Trax

ok
so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
nah.
based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
now... am I fucked or not??

what you assume is not going to work
just my two cents

Exactly. Pussy is a commonly used word. It can't be trademarked. It should not be given to anyone before the tld is open to the public.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Trax

ok
so lets say I own pussy.org making me lots of money each month
and I'm being forced to move away to .xxx
what domain should I use?? pussy.xxx
nah.
based on your comment that domain will be owned by pussy.com
now... am I fucked or not??

what you assume is not going to work
just my two cents

Gary Kremen, the owner of Sex.com, already trademarked.... pussy.xxx

[azguy]

Someone needs to register DotXXXWar.com

[TheSwed]

I don't think any from out side U.S will like it.We still believe in the peoples freedom here

[Cassie]

i said this a while ago, catagorizing adult would be a first step in regulating this industry in a positive direction.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG Webmaster

[Peaches]

I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?

[chadglni]

Also, what about the tld's for other countries? They'll all be fighting over the same .xxx urls as the .com and .net owners and everyone else that has a tld for that word or phrase. Completely irresponsible if they did it as some suggest.

[Trax]

thats a problem of mine
I'm always right...

[pussyluver]

So now we're all on .xxx TLD. Very easy to pull the plug on all of us then.

Then there are sites in the grey area. Art or porn? Educational or porn? Medical or porn? Regards Lee or porn?

The ACLU would have a problem with the concept I believe. I think it violates US 1st amendment rights. Could work on as a TLD on a volunteer basis though.

[brand0n]

well

i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?

I've responded like 10 times cause this really pissed me off. They shouldn't get first dibs plain and simple. How many tlds are there in the world now?

[polish_aristocrat]

Fact is that there are no easy answers on how the domains should be given out.

If the extension stays voluntary, then why should f.e. Lensman get adult.xxx?
Does Lensman own adult.info, adult.net, adult.org etc? Nope.

( just an example, don't ban me, j/k )

The fact that .com owners want their domains in .xxx is based on the assumption and risk that it could happen that this new extension will be mandatory.

How about when there are two different paysites, as f.e younbporn.com and youngporn.net? The .net in this case is the bigger and more established paysite, so they would lose big time if they wouldnt get youngporn.xxx.

But hey, do they have a trademark for it? If not, then it's possible that any of us will be able to get youngporn.xxx ;)


One more thing, is connected with multiple trademarks for the same name, or trademarks made already especially for the new names, like the pussy.xxx trademark, lol.

Or how about sites that don't own a tradermark? Is f.e sleazydream trademarked? If not, then I could be theoretically be able to get sleazydream.xxx, although I could possibly still lose it in court later.

As Lensman said, we can expect many lawsuits.

[jf2404]

Originally Posted by brand0n

well

i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx

lol, i hope your joking .

[Jman]

The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs.

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At 60 bucks a domain it's a great way to enforce every adult company with .com's to have to spend all that money just to change there names to .xxx

Talk about a money making scam...

Welcome to the bullying world of GREED of the Rich Infamous. Long Live America and it's Freedom... NOT :-(((

[Juicy D. Links]

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