.xxx - the best way to stop censorship.

[Peaches]

I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?

[chadglni]

Also, what about the tld's for other countries? They'll all be fighting over the same .xxx urls as the .com and .net owners and everyone else that has a tld for that word or phrase. Completely irresponsible if they did it as some suggest.

[Trax]

thats a problem of mine
I'm always right...

[pussyluver]

So now we're all on .xxx TLD. Very easy to pull the plug on all of us then.

Then there are sites in the grey area. Art or porn? Educational or porn? Medical or porn? Regards Lee or porn?

The ACLU would have a problem with the concept I believe. I think it violates US 1st amendment rights. Could work on as a TLD on a volunteer basis though.

[brand0n]

well

i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I find it interesting that people think the .com folks should get it first. I daresay there are several adult companies which own the .net and don't have the .com (cashquest is an example).

And as others have mentioned, some VERY good .com domains aren't trademarked words, so why should .com OR .net owners get first dibs?

I've responded like 10 times cause this really pissed me off. They shouldn't get first dibs plain and simple. How many tlds are there in the world now?

[polish_aristocrat]

Fact is that there are no easy answers on how the domains should be given out.

If the extension stays voluntary, then why should f.e. Lensman get adult.xxx?
Does Lensman own adult.info, adult.net, adult.org etc? Nope.

( just an example, don't ban me, j/k )

The fact that .com owners want their domains in .xxx is based on the assumption and risk that it could happen that this new extension will be mandatory.

How about when there are two different paysites, as f.e younbporn.com and youngporn.net? The .net in this case is the bigger and more established paysite, so they would lose big time if they wouldnt get youngporn.xxx.

But hey, do they have a trademark for it? If not, then it's possible that any of us will be able to get youngporn.xxx ;)


One more thing, is connected with multiple trademarks for the same name, or trademarks made already especially for the new names, like the pussy.xxx trademark, lol.

Or how about sites that don't own a tradermark? Is f.e sleazydream trademarked? If not, then I could be theoretically be able to get sleazydream.xxx, although I could possibly still lose it in court later.

As Lensman said, we can expect many lawsuits.

[jf2404]

Originally Posted by brand0n

well

i own adult.xxx and if you think im just going to hand it over on a silver platter, well... im sure you get where im comming from.

same goes with men.xxx, sex.xxx and juicydlinks.xxx

lol, i hope your joking .

[Jman]

The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs.

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At 60 bucks a domain it's a great way to enforce every adult company with .com's to have to spend all that money just to change there names to .xxx

Talk about a money making scam...

Welcome to the bullying world of GREED of the Rich Infamous. Long Live America and it's Freedom... NOT :-(((

[Juicy D. Links]

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[Juicy D. Links]

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Eat that WOJ

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

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[pussyluver]

Somebody has a script setup ready to go to auto buy all the .xxx URLs worth anything. Yep, a server dedicated to each major registrar.

[pradaboy]

I think this will simply alienate the adult industry... apart from protection for innocent eyes I do not see any advantages. Plus the .XXX release will simply cause a similar burst of domainpurchases as .IN did leaving the valuable domains to the big domainers.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

50....................................

Eat that WOJ

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

In all due respect how did you become so sucessful thinking that way. They can still go after you for obscenity it doesnt protect you. Think about it one minister in one small church told Microsoft if you support gays , I will start a letter writing campaign for people to stop buying microsoft products and they changed their position on something microsoft always supported. You think some extreme right group cant get aol to block .xxx, thats funny. Also .xxx ends all colleges and daytime porn buying, alot of people look at porn at work thats over. This will hurt us all big and small. Also a naked pic of chick with big tits doesnt hurt a child , a pervert in a aol chat hurts a child.

[StuartD]

censorship aside, it makes for an easier target. think about it, funnelling all porn into one tld means that it would be VERY EASY to filter it out at the source.

Bush doesn't like porn? No problem, all ISP's are now forced to filter out .xxx from their services.

How about China? They will definitely do that.

Right now, as whitehouse.com was an example of, it's very hard to tell what is and isn't porn just from looking at it. Once it's singled out and made very apparent, it'll become a big bold target that is very easy to hit.

[SmokeyTheBear]

The hun would shit bricks

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by tony404

In all due respect how did you become so sucessful thinking that way. They can still go after you for obscenity it doesnt protect you. Think about it one minister in one small church told Microsoft if you support gays , I will start a letter writing campaign for people to stop buying microsoft products and they changed their position on something microsoft always supported. You think some extreme right group cant get aol to block .xxx, thats funny. Also .xxx ends all colleges and daytime porn buying, alot of people look at porn at work thats over. This will hurt us all big and small.

People might browse porn at work but they damn sure aren't jerking off at work. I doubt that many are sitting there signing up with a credit card either. That's the kind of shit you do at home.

[JD]

who won the GFY hoodie and hat?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by chadglni

People might browse porn at work but they damn sure aren't jerking off at work. I doubt that many are sitting there signing up with a credit card either. That's the kind of shit you do at home.

you'd be surprised actually.

[Brujah]

No, this is not a good thing. Make no mistake about it. This will turn out to be the worst move ever made.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by chadglni

People might browse porn at work but they damn sure aren't jerking off at work. I doubt that many are sitting there signing up with a credit card either. That's the kind of shit you do at home.

You must be new at this business ,there are guys who buy cam shows from my wife while in their office. All those day sales what do you think all those people have night jobs lol

[tony286]

Im thinking strange POV to come out with Lens were you offered something ? lol

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by chadglni

People might browse porn at work but they damn sure aren't jerking off at work. I doubt that many are sitting there signing up with a credit card either. That's the kind of shit you do at home.

Wanna bet?

[chadglni]

Ok ok, down with xxx! If nobody can see my sites at work I'll go out of business.

[azguy]

.XXX is bad, but .XXX and its consequences are inevitable. Deal with it. If you are so worried about it, I'd suggest that you spend some $$ on registering a few trademarks (i.e. SleazyDream.xxx) that will help you sleep better at night in the next few months. It's worth it.

Gary Kremen owns the trademark for sex.xxx. I'm sure he's not worried as much as the rest of you are. $300 and you're done with it.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Wanna bet?

THank you I bet this will cost at least 40% drop in sales. If we all have to go .xxx

[chadglni]

And for the record EVERYONE is responding to this thread as if .xxx is mandatory. All of your arguments against it are IF it's MANDATORY. It's not mandatory and I highly doubt it ever will be. Imagine every single decent sized adult company in the world (includes playboy, hustler, etc. etc. etc.) suing the government because they told them that all of a sudden they can't use .com. Not gonna happen.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by tony404

THank you I bet this will cost at least 40% drop in sales. If we all have to go .xxx

There's like 200 reasons to get out of porn now. The whole wide world is going to make adult sites move to .xxx therefore we are all doomed. I wonder if my neighbors need a yard boy.

[azguy]

Originally Posted by chadglni

And for the record EVERYONE is responding to this thread as if .xxx is mandatory. All of your arguments against it are IF it's MANDATORY. It's not mandatory and I highly doubt it ever will be. Imagine every single decent sized adult company in the world (includes playboy, hustler, etc. etc. etc.) suing the government because they told them that all of a sudden they can't use .com. Not gonna happen.

Once everything cools down, probably after a year or so, and after most of the lawsuits are over with, it will become one.

[CynthiaB]

Sounds like they need a variation on the xxx to cover the variety of domains now available - as in all .com's switch to xxx. All orgs go to xxorg (hey, I like the look of that).

Honestly, I didn't see the problem with the rule until I saw this discussion. Never thought about how they would hand out the domain names.

Getting past the admin nightmare that it would be, I think it would help in that it would take away the constant complaining from people who hit porno sites by accident. Remember WhiteHouse.com (? or something like that)- I hit that once at work trying to find the link for the real white house and man that was a surprise!

CYN

[WiredGuy]

When the .WS registry came out, they reserved trademarked keywords for companies such as ebay.ws, microsoft.ws and quite a few others. That was a good system in my opinion, to allow Trademark holders first dibs at their registrations (and only theirs, not open to other name registrations other than their own TM's).

WG

[azguy]

This is the problem with TLDs. They shouldn't have been used in the first place. The old AOL Keyword system is much better, and IMHO the internet will eventually adopt it. I give it 8 years.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

When the .WS registry came out, they reserved trademarked keywords for companies such as ebay.ws, microsoft.ws and quite a few others. That was a good system in my opinion, to allow Trademark holders first dibs at their registrations (and only theirs, not open to other name registrations other than their own TM's).

WG

I agree, TM'd named makes perfect sense. Lots of adult names aren't trademarked though and the .com owners now want free range to get them. lol

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by azguy

.XXX is bad, but .XXX and its consequences are inevitable. Deal with it. If you are so worried about it, I'd suggest that you spend some $$ on registering a few trademarks (i.e. SleazyDream.xxx) that will help you sleep better at night in the next few months. It's worth it.

Gary Kremen owns the trademark for sex.xxx. I'm sure he's not worried as much as the rest of you are. $300 and you're done with it.

He also owns the trademark for pussy.xxx, although he doesnt own any 'pussy' domain.

So hey, why can't I register a trademark for pussy.xxx in South Africa or Belize? Or why can't I get a trademark for sex.xxx?

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by azguy

This is the problem with TLDs. They shouldn't have been used in the first place. The old AOL Keyword system is much better, and IMHO the internet will eventually adopt it. I give it 8 years.

Oh yeah, that'll work. Nobody on the planet will have lists of everything people have typed in for the last 10 years and grab all the best keywords.

[Decadawn]

amen to that

[Tango]

If they don't allow first crack at names - imagine the shit-storm
if the same person was able to register:

bangbus.xxx
adultfriendfinder.xxx
adult.xxx
sex.xxx
girlsgonewild.xxx
ispycameltoe.com
etc. etc. etc.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

Sounds a lot like the sales pitch R_n was making about this a while back... Is there a profit motive involved for you too?