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10-14-2007, 05:50 PM | #51 |
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Fitty Frauds
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10-14-2007, 06:27 PM | #52 |
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10-14-2007, 06:55 PM | #53 |
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That sucks man... But I don't think you can put all the blame on epass for that, if paypal and epassporte absorbed the cost of fraud they would have been out of business a long time ago.
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10-14-2007, 07:04 PM | #54 |
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i think alot of people in this thread seem to be satisfied with "mediocre"
epassporte is a very usefull service , but it could be BETTER. Lets just say DEA was completely to blame. Lets say he left his cashcard in the machine with his pin number written on the back.. Does this give someone the right to steal the money ? of course not. so don't you think the bank should at the very least perhaps help him out and give the videotape of the thief to the police ? whomever got the cash in this place had to have an address , thats a start.. and to get that amount of money out at once they would have to have sent extra identification. , match that with some ip logs and any rookie cop should be able to bust these guys pretty simple. Not doing ANYTHING just lets the thief know they dont care so they will obviously do it again
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10-14-2007, 07:07 PM | #55 |
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10-14-2007, 07:12 PM | #56 |
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I have 25 bucks in my epass account... That's the highest amount of cash I will leave in there...(Normally there's just $5 and some change sitting there.) When it gets above that I transfer it immediately!
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10-14-2007, 08:07 PM | #58 |
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how to i close a epass acct anyways?
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10-14-2007, 08:09 PM | #59 |
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First try to get them to even remove an expired card
Apparently nothing is deletable.
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10-14-2007, 08:23 PM | #60 |
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most real ones that wouldnt be a problem , but getting it out a full 10k is
many banks will limit the max a non-user can take out so they would give you 1k and try to put 9k back on the card , which would fail and you end up with endless hassles getting your money out.. i found it out the hard way, i forget the exact message but it was along the lines of " machine out of cash" it gave me part of the money and send "reversing funds" , when i checked my epass , the full amount had been taken out. i called epass , they said "talk to the bank" , i asked the bank they said " talk to your credit card company" hah silly thing was , right after this happened i told the guy behind me ." dont try to take any money out , it said it was out of cash" and he tried it anyways and took out $200 just fine.. i think they just didnt want to give out all the cash the machine had .. makes sense kinda
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10-14-2007, 08:29 PM | #61 |
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10-14-2007, 08:33 PM | #62 |
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Minusonebit they are subject to "some" of the United States laws when it comes to doing business here, not all laws, and certainly being FDIC insured is not a law nor even a requirement.
However I still need my one question answered by any of the haters or epass itself. Forget the info change, forget the flags, forget the lost password, forget the email notifications. Just answer my one question. (see post 49-50)
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10-14-2007, 08:39 PM | #64 | |
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Then sent the full 5k to one account (hacked we shall presume) they are a personal account and lets presume default info. They can only send out 500 at a time, five times total per day. That is only 2500 of the 5000.00 accounted for. Not going any deeper transaction wise either or through more hacked accounts. Keep in mind he was on the phone quickly.
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10-14-2007, 08:40 PM | #65 |
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Man some of you guys are rough!
It kind of amazes me how so many can blame the ?victim? in this. Kind of makes me think of when a girl gets raped and somebody shouts "she was asking for it!" I just think that if this was PayPal... this thread would have a totally different tune.
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10-14-2007, 08:45 PM | #66 | |
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Like Smokey said... doing absolutely nothing shows that they care little about fraud. Not absorbing fraud, means they have absolutely no reason to even care.
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10-14-2007, 09:15 PM | #67 |
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10-14-2007, 09:39 PM | #68 |
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10-14-2007, 09:45 PM | #69 |
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10-14-2007, 10:38 PM | #70 | |
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10-14-2007, 10:50 PM | #71 |
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Everyone is assuming the money is withdrawn, cash. That's not confirmed by Epassporte and not necesarily true. Try thinking it through, and I'll help you since most of you will need it.
From the way I understand of the daily limits, yes you have a limit on how much cash you can withdraw in a day. This is true for everyone, and I think the highest "easy" limit to get ist he select account. Around $600 a day. So how can the thieves withdraw the cash from the hacked accounts and side step such limitations? They don't have to. Check your Virtual Visa limits: Load Limit US$1,000.00 US$1,000.00 Single Cash Transaction Amount US$1,000.00 US$1,000.00 Number of Transactions 20 20 Number of Loads 10 10 Notice that while there's a limit to the number of transactions and the maximum of each trasnsaction, there's no limit to the total. If I hack your Epassporte account and transfer money from stolen account, to stolen account, all I need on the end is a merchant that will accept virtual visa, perhaps from some Eastern European Block country, or other shit hole and bam they can hit up a single account through Visa for up to 20K. Impossible you say? Think back to the various GFY posts over the last little while of people complaining about fraudulent virtual visa transacations. If my considerable memory serves me, as it usually does, Epassporte's position on each of those instances was basically "They had the credit card number, the CVV2 and the address. We can not reverse a virtual visa transaction.". Yes, I'm not only smarter than you but I'm much better looking too.
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10-14-2007, 11:01 PM | #73 | |
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To top it off, if they're using a stolen account as a middle, which you would assume they are, that person might not know there's anything wrong. Imagine if I transfer $5000 to your epass, then hit it for 5 $1000 transactions right away. You log in, nothing's changed. Same balance. Presumably you might not even know the transactions were done.
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Why transfer it to another account first before cashing out? It is not like you need to cover your tracks. Hell it would be even more secure, just 1 login, 1 ip. so forth. Just suck him dry via virtual visa, he couldnt do anything about it anyways right?
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10-14-2007, 11:11 PM | #75 | |
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This is all just speculation, but it seems to fit.
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10-14-2007, 11:15 PM | #76 | |
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10-14-2007, 11:18 PM | #77 |
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Well they send you an email originally with it. Or else they used to. But you're supposed to delete that I believe. Anyway have a look around your account, see if your Cvv2 is available anywhere.
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10-14-2007, 11:21 PM | #78 |
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Taken from my epassporte email center which I doubt many delete their emails and all the frauds seem to get transfered first.
My Name, Your purchase of the ePassporte Visa Virtual is approved! The ePassporte Visa Virtual may be used anywhere on the worldwide web to make secure purchases and helps you protect your personal financial information. Expand your purchase power by requesting an ePassporte Visa Electron card. The Visa Electron card can be used to withdraw funds at any ATM on the Visa and PLUS networks, or to make purchases at most Visa merchant terminals around the globe. For more information about the advantages of an ePassporte Visa Electron please visit www.epassporte.com/electroncard. Visa Virtual Details Visa Virtual Card Number: 46890450XXXXXXXX (those X's are not there) Expiration Date: XX/2007 (X's not there) CVV2 Number: XXX (X's not there) IMPORTANT: Please keep all of this information in a safe place. More standard text here....
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I deleted that email after recording the info. That's what it said to do
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Though on another note you can load again via mastercard, yippie! Wonder if mastercard still see's it as a cash advance and charges you an additional fee?
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Anyway, I'm just sayin'.
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Subject: Important Notice - ePassporte Visa Virtual Renewal Information Dear LOGIN NAME, (no longer my real name) Your ePassporte Visa Virtual account has automatically renewed, and you have been billed the renewal. Your Visa Virtual number will remain the same. However, your expiration date has moved up 2 years and your CVV2 number has changed. Your NEW Visa Virtual account information is as follows: Account Number: 46890450XXXXXXXX (X's not there) Expiration Date: 0X/2009 (X not there) CVV2: XXX (X's not there) IMPORTANT: You will need to use this new expiration date and CVV2 number when you make purchases online with your ePassporte Visa Virtual. Please note that your ePassporte UserID and Password remain the same. Sincerely, The ePassporte team NOWHERE in that email does it say to delete it. That is the full email text and subject. Hell I do not read each of my messages, who does really?
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No off shore account is insured.
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10-15-2007, 02:19 AM | #88 | |
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You seem to blame everyone and just troll shit all of the time, I actually do not feel you are a fake nick. I feel that gfy has gained some sick artificial intelligence and personality of its own with a wisdom of the collected post whores and walla out you came.
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Ok you are right, their offices close on friday so alas he could not contact them until monday regardless. Assuming the pick up the phone. I know last time I tried to call I left it on speaker phone from 9am until 5pm remaining on hold. Then I got hung up on. That was about 2 weeks ago. Seen same issue happen when people did call same day. Something is not kosher unless it is done the way warchild suggested, then im sure epass could say that is how they do it and give a heads up about deleting every email they send you with the ccv2 in it. Ya know as a curtesy since they use all these safeguards and such in their TOS.
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You are correct there like I suggested above.
If search was up I would show you same damn type of theft, with same day phone calls and same results. By the way if it worked via ATM wouldnt epass have some sort of info on this person? I know they have a shitload on me and I do not even have an ATM card.
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REGARDELESS OF THAT...the fruadlent money transfers started occuring within an hour of my account information being changed.There was no way for me to know my account information had all been changed because the only way epassporte informs you that all of your buissness account information is changed is by an email...and being that it was a friday nite and i have a life outside the confines of the interent..i was not in my office clicking my mouse button every few minutes to re-check my email and makes sure nobody compromised my epass account. FACT: Any epassporte buissness account holder can have all of there account information changed without being notified by epassporte that this is taking place.No verificatiion is needed. All of your funds can be taken before you are aware this happend because...THE ONLY WAY EPASSPORTE NOTIFIES YOU THAT YOUR ACCOUNT INFORMATION IS BEING CHANGED IS BY WAY OF AN EMAIL THAT THEY SEND AFTER THE ALL CHANGES ARE MADE. Wether its $4500 or $250 in your account everybody who uses epassporte can get ripped the same exact way...even you HATEMAN |
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All you guys talking about the FDIC... do you even know what FDIC insurance is?
It protects you against failure and insolvency of the bank your deposits are held out. So if the bank shuts down or goes bankrupt, your funds are insured up to $100K per bank. FDIC insurance has nothing to do with fraud prevention. Even if ePassporte's funds were held in a FDIC-insured account, DEA would have lost his money.
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Epass it great for most of the adult webmaters,isn't it?I just like it and Epass really made things easy!!!
Epass is great to me!
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That has very little to do with being FDIC insured. That is all about the bank wanting your business and being willing to absorb and fight fraud. Banks have competition, they have to fight for your business. epass has little competition, which is probably part of the reason they don't seem to care or ever improve their service.
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