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Old 07-18-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Father of 6 Breaks Up Street Fight Then NYPD Murder Him Using Death Choke

NYPD Kill Man by Placing him in Chokehold and Slamming Face to Sidewalk




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"New York City police officers killed a man Thursday after he had broken up a fight between two other men, insisting on placing him in a chokehold and slamming his head to the pavement, piling on top of him as he gasped for air, continually telling the cops that he couldn't breathe.

The entire incident was caught on video from a witness who kept telling the cops that the man had not committed a crime.

But evidently, the cops suspected him of selling untaxed cigarettes, which apparently is a very serious crime in New York City."
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:14 PM   #2
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you cut off the part where he is dead, yet the cops are still wrestling
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they have cops that target and kill people.
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That will teach him for doing the right thing...
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That's so disgusting.

He did nothing wrong.
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Well... if he did nothing wrong why resist them?
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Well... if he did nothing wrong why resist them?
man i've seen people choked to sleep in the felony position to the ground. not one arm out of place
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The defenders and apologists will be here in a jiffy. Fact will remain that there he was, standing and saying leave me alone, cops jumped on him, now he's dead.
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Well... if he did nothing wrong why resist them?
What was there reason for wanting to arrest him to begin with? Should he have just laid down and let them do as they please, violating his rights?
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Should he have just laid down and let them do as they please, violating his rights?
Uh... the guy is dead. What do you think?

Whether something is right or wrong, I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive. But hey, that's just me. I happen to like breathing.

Gang banger has a gun to your head. You going to start arguing with him about your rights? Please.
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Uh... the guy is dead. What do you think?

Whether something is right or wrong, I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive. But hey, that's just me. I happen to like breathing.

Gang banger has a gun to your head. You going to start arguing with him about your rights? Please.
Cops = same threat as a "gang banger"?
I'm not of the opinion that we SHOULD be scared that cops will kill us is we don't obey them like we are dogs.

The cops are supposed to work for us. But like every other facet of govt., they are ruling over us instead.
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Uh... the guy is dead. What do you think?

Whether something is right or wrong, I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive. But hey, that's just me. I happen to like breathing.

Gang banger has a gun to your head. You going to start arguing with him about your rights? Please.
Well, someone posted earlier that the apologist would show up.
So here you are.
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Uh... the guy is dead. What do you think?

Whether something is right or wrong, I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive. But hey, that's just me. I happen to like breathing.

Gang banger has a gun to your head. You going to start arguing with him about your rights? Please.
Well, I think the cops, the gang in blue that is supposed to protect and serve him and respect his rights, abused the power they think they have over citizens and went way to far over what was a non issue. If anything they should be thanking this man for doing the job they weren't able to do. You know, stopping the fight in front of his place.

I do agree, it's best to take the choice that gives the best odds of staying alive, but maybe you should watch the video again, there was no resisting, there was no choice. The cop who jumped on him from behind and started choking him decided he was judge, jury and executioner, taking away his choice and his life in under a minute. And with a choke hold that has been banned for use by the police force.

Did the words, I cant breathe threaten that cops life or the lives of anyone else around?

Do you not know the difference between a officer of the law and a street thug? I'm sure you do, so I'm sure you already realize how lame of a comparison that was.

Now, repeat the words I cant breathe 6 times, and that was all the time it took for that cop to kill a man who was not resisting, who was on the ground with several other cops pinning him down.
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Cops = same threat as a "gang banger"?
I'm not of the opinion that we SHOULD be scared that cops will kill us is we don't obey them like we are dogs.

The cops are supposed to work for us. But like every other facet of govt., they are ruling over us instead.
bullshit! http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/val...of_roughin.php

cop beat a black man that was city council the full story is really fucked up and the real side of the dirt police do.
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Cops should be charged with murder. They'll get 3 weeks paid time off and be found innocent of all wrongdoing.
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a phoenix police put a crack pipe on a homeless lady he knew as a joke he says. punishment? 1 day suspended with pay

think this is him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xxmbe7CbpAv damn didnt know he killed that kid
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Well, I think the cops, the gang in blue that is supposed to protect and serve him and respect his rights, abused the power they think they have over citizens and went way to far over what was a non issue. If anything they should be thanking this man for doing the job they weren't able to do. You know, stopping the fight in front of his place.

I do agree, it's best to take the choice that gives the best odds of staying alive, but maybe you should watch the video again, there was no resisting, there was no choice. The cop who jumped on him from behind and started choking him decided he was judge, jury and executioner, taking away his choice and his life in under a minute. And with a choke hold that has been banned for use by the police force.

Did the words, I cant breathe threaten that cops life or the lives of anyone else around?

Do you not know the difference between a officer of the law and a street thug? I'm sure you do, so I'm sure you already realize how lame of a comparison that was.

Now, repeat the words I cant breathe 6 times, and that was all the time it took for that cop to kill a man who was not resisting, who was on the ground with several other cops pinning him down.
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Happens too often..
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The problem is, this happened in Staten Island. More NYPD and FDNY live in Staten Island than any other boro. So when it goes to trial - and it will go to trial, the cop won't plead out because the guy died from a heart attack - it'll be a hung jury. You'll have a couple of Blacks on the jury and at least 1-2 jurors who are close to someone in the NYPD. This could be the one to start some riots.

Yes, yes - lots of speculation on my part, but bookmark this and let's see where we're at in about 18 months.
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Cops = same threat as a "gang banger"?
I'm not of the opinion that we SHOULD be scared that cops will kill us is we don't obey them like we are dogs.

The cops are supposed to work for us. But like every other facet of govt., they are ruling over us instead.
Bill Maher just finished his show with a rant about how the police forces are not only getting military equipment, but also the mentality of an occupying military force. Police have forgotten that "protect and serve" means to protect us, not themselves.
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Police have forgotten that "protect and serve" means to protect us, not themselves.
Quite frankly...I think most people are scared to death to have the police "protect" them.

The scariest thing I see when I'm driving is when a cop gets behind me. They are unpredictable and abusive if they pull you over.

Whenever I get into a discussion about cops abusing their power I always hear: "Yeah, until you NEED one".

Well...how many times are cops ever there when you actually NEED them? That is impossible of course. They would have to be mind readers and get to the scene of the crime BEFORE it happens so they could stop it.

No, what cops do in the vast majority of cases is show up AFTER it's all over and then take a report and try to arrest someone. I'm not saying that's a bad thing...just saying that "serve and protect" is kind of a falsehood because they can't protect you...and they damn sure don't "serve" the people.

I can honestly say I've never had a cop "protect" me in my life in any of the cities I've lived in. And the couple of times I had things stolen and "needed" them, they were unable to help me (not their fault, it's a big world and retrieving stolen property is mostly pure luck).

The one thing they seem to do real well is hand out speeding tickets to soccer moms to make money for the local govt. and the insurance companies.
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Uh... the guy is dead. What do you think?

Whether something is right or wrong, I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive. But hey, that's just me. I happen to like breathing.

Gang banger has a gun to your head. You going to start arguing with him about your rights? Please.
Your logic would on the face appear sound, but..... Try using this logic of "I usually go with the decision that gives me the better odds of staying alive." in the shower in prison. You will be totally alive and butt raped every day. But hey you'll be alive!!! No sense in risking death to save such things as honor etc........
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Bill Maher just finished his show with a rant about how the police forces are not only getting military equipment, but also the mentality of an occupying military force. Police have forgotten that "protect and serve" means to protect us, not themselves.
Nice one, and so sadly true.
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Quite frankly...I think most people are scared to death to have the police "protect" them.

The scariest thing I see when I'm driving is when a cop gets behind me. They are unpredictable and abusive if they pull you over.

Whenever I get into a discussion about cops abusing their power I always hear: "Yeah, until you NEED one".

Well...how many times are cops ever there when you actually NEED them? That is impossible of course. They would have to be mind readers and get to the scene of the crime BEFORE it happens so they could stop it.

No, what cops do in the vast majority of cases is show up AFTER it's all over and then take a report and try to arrest someone. I'm not saying that's a bad thing...just saying that "serve and protect" is kind of a falsehood because they can't protect you...and they damn sure don't "serve" the people.

I can honestly say I've never had a cop "protect" me in my life in any of the cities I've lived in. And the couple of times I had things stolen and "needed" them, they were unable to help me (not their fault, it's a big world and retrieving stolen property is mostly pure luck).

The one thing they seem to do real well is hand out speeding tickets to soccer moms to make money for the local govt. and the insurance companies.
When seconds count.... don't worry the police are only minutes away!!! POLICE DON'T PROTECT SHIT!!!!!
They are the ones I am most scared of, and I ain't doing nothing much wrong these days either. I just don't think that I should have to take the verbal abuse they inevitably spew at me when they talk to me like I am a lesser person.
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the fact is, as you stated he said leave me alone as they attempted top cuff him....tell any cop to leave you alone and push them when they try to cuff you and see what happens...if he had learned from other people getting their ass kicked by the police he would still be alive...you cant fight the cops and then cry because you get hurt or killed...the police are not paid to lose.

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this guy should not have been mad at the cops...he should be mad at who ever sold him all those cheeseburgers...
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Most of them would be better suited working at toll booths but counting the change would prove too difficult for the vast majority of them.
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this guy should not have been mad at the cops...he should be mad at who ever sold him all those cheeseburgers...
The good thing is about threads like these is the cunts come out and I add to the list another program I won't ever work with.

That there was murder, those cops should be charged and convicted of murder until the needle is in their arm. Total shit.
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No you fucking didn't. Stop playing internet gang banger / webmaster


I got a $100 bucks that says brassmonkey is a neck-bearded white kid from the burbs.
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I spent 11 years in my day job working closely with cops (IT training). After all that time, I have to honestly say that most of them are insecure assholes who have no business being in that type of job.

Interestingly enough, I have had several detectives tell me the same thing. They said the problem with the rank and file is that they tend to be arrogant, combative assholes.
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$100? i have proof lets do this. not public tho. one of my friends was a anti gangs speaker they killed him at circle k. he lost both of his legs in a drivebye.
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$100? i have proof lets do this. not public tho. one of my friends was a anti gangs speaker they killed him at circle k. he lost both of his legs in a drivebye.
The police took both of his legs and killed him at a Circle K in a drive-by?
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:41 AM   #38
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The police took both of his legs and killed him at a Circle K in a drive-by?
no he was a double amp already when phoenix police choked him out. it was big news in Arizona in the 90's. he was a big time drug dealer well know in south phoenix was a very kool dude.

@OneHungLo you are fuckin trippin! yeah im white!! you got me!
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:17 PM   #39
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Sometimes cop's are pretend to be bad ass and cool and can do whatever they want because they above the law. Iv seen those and its so lame.
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:56 PM   #40
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Well... if he did nothing wrong why resist them?
I would never resist and would be fully compliant with what I'm told to do, but if I was put into a choke hold, or punched in head and slammed to the ground; that instant, I would fight back. Right or wrong, I would way fight back. I think thats most peoples instinct when attacked by anybody.


And to make things worse, I can defend the choke and defend myself very well. Well enough that I would probably get shot.


But like I stated above, I would way listen to instructions given to my by any officers.


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Old 07-19-2014, 09:22 PM   #41
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this guy should not have been mad at the cops...he should be mad at who ever sold him all those cheeseburgers...
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:31 PM   #42
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$100? i have proof lets do this. not public tho. one of my friends was a anti gangs speaker they killed him at circle k. he lost both of his legs in a drivebye.
I got another $100 that says you sleep with a night light on.
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Old 07-20-2014, 08:10 AM   #43
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Here's that Bill Maher thing about the po-po over aggression.



Another thing that bothers me is how police raids are ending up with lots of dead dogs. I saw a stat somewhere that said the number of officers killed by dogs since 1950 is zero. More officers have been killed by bee-stings than dog bites, yet they still bust a cap in whatever dog happens to look threatening -- which is natural behavior towards encroachment on their turf.
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I got another $100 that says you sleep with a night light on.
ahh keep the money im a white internet gangster
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No you fucking didn't. Stop playing internet gang banger / webmaster


I got a $100 bucks that says brassmonkey is a neck-bearded white kid from the burbs.
Obese black kid working at Journey's shoes. He does like to play gangsta on internet boards. You should read some of his shit on street gangs forum. Fucking hilarious.
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You posted it yourself, dogg. With your other nick, remember?
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Life Tip: Stay away from cops like they have a contagious disease that will kill you.
not all cops are bad but yeah you cant sort through them. you are in an area where they are more like gangsters. they say things you would not expect from a cop.
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You posted it yourself, dogg. With your other nick, remember?
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