Motherless

[dgraves]

Looks like they're back at their old "disable video", "enable video" tricks.

Get a real job Joshua Lange you douche bag. I've spent so much time removing my videos from your site that I'm thinking it would be easier to fly to your shit hole town and pay you a visit.

[nikki99]

these motherfuckers are uploading our videos again

[dgraves]

They don't remove them, they just deactivate, then re-activate under a different so called "User". They're either too lazy or not smart enough to change the titles.

[PornDude]

Why would they change anything. It works for them, I guess

[dgraves]

Exactly, how can someone expect more from scumbag thieves. It's not a very smart business model. It's just a matter of time before ads no longer justify the effort and they try to negotiate with content producers. I've already been contacted by quite a few tube owners that have stolen many of my videos over the years and now they want me to sponsor ads on their sites. Are you fucking serious!

I see many producers teaming up with some of the biggest thieves in the business and it's pathetic to see them sell out.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

to do so would break safe harbor

What folks need to do is scoot that right along by submitting non-adult clips like playing frizbee at the park with your dog.

If they don't make the rotation, then you know manual review is under way

[dgraves]

Of course they won't but when you talk to the owner of Motherless he'll tell you that there's no way they can moderate all the videos that get uploaded.

This business is chalked full of liars, thieves and cheats. The worst part of having to scan through his site for my stolen content is the getting virus alerts and having to look at pedophile ads.

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What folks need to do is scoot that right along by submitting non-adult clips like playing frizbee at the park with your dog.

If they don't make the rotation, then you know manual review is under way

i once saw java programing lesson video on xvideos.

[2MuchMark]

If they are ignoring you why not just go after their advertisers? I just checked the site out and was got a pop-up by a well known provider around here...

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

i once saw java programing lesson video on xvideos.

If I owned that site, there would be a few such videos "posted by users" on it, even if the categories / tags were hidden at the bottom of the list...

I know some of these sites have been seeded for years with non-adult material to see if they are actually pulling the clips before they appear on the site. I am VERY surprised that there hasn't been some high-profile prosecutions / lawsuits as a result and suspect that backroom settlements were made with the seeders to avoid whistle blowing and a Federal rap.

You can't have it both ways as a UGC site: you either don't review what's being posted, or you do (as evidenced by removing / not posting non-porn clips) and that ends your safe harbor protections

[dgraves]

I'm not familiar with tube scripts but I can bet the owners have a way of making it look like the videos are "user" uploaded to cover their tracks. That sounds like content theft 101 to me but I'm not 100% sure what they do.

It blows me away to see how many program owners jumped right into bed with these goat fuckers. People who I once thought were stand-up and solid.

I guess desperate times calls for desperate measures and some people can't run a successful paysite without getting into bed with the scum who are helping to destroy a system that was working well.

The producer/affiliate model works well so why fuck with it.

[dgraves]

Has anyone else been receiving dozens of email replies after submitting DMCA's to Motherless?

I submitted a DMCA two days ago and must have received 30 of the following replies so far:
************************************************** **************
Hello,
This email is in response to the DMCA notice we received from you on
2014-01-04 04:41:02. The following uploads from your email are under review
for possible DMCA violations.
************************************************** **************

I also notice that every time I have to scan their shitty tube weekly for my stolen content, I have flash player issues.

[Tdash]

@ dgraves, check this site out: xtakedowns.com

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Tdash

@ dgraves, check this site out: xtakedowns.com

Thanks. I'm still on the hunt for fingerprint software to cut off the source of the content leaks.

[2MuchMark]

We were recently offered an "opportunity" to advertise with them. I flat out refused. Regardless of the cost I've seen questionable content and copyright content within just a few clicks, plus endless pop-ups. No way would I want any association with that site.

[dgraves]

The owner sent me the same offer like nothing happened. I knew it was just a matter of time before the thieves tried to cash in as affiliates.

It blows me away to see so many content producers sell out to the scum that are destroying this industry.

Parts of this industry are really cool but there are too many liars, cheats and thieves. If they can't make it in porn then they can always try their hand at politics.

[Creatine]

This looks bad.

[Paully]

Originally Posted by dgraves

The owner sent me the same offer like nothing happened. I knew it was just a matter of time before the thieves tried to cash in as affiliates.

It blows me away to see so many content producers sell out to the scum that are destroying this industry.

Parts of this industry are really cool but there are too many liars, cheats and thieves. If they can't make it in porn then they can always try their hand at politics.

They are with Level3 hosting. I'd get a hold of them and their ad guys, Live Jasmin will probably dump them for the multiple popunders alone, and I know Paul with Ero Advertising will work with you.

Good luck.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by dgraves

too many liars, cheats and thieves. .

gfy users

[MegaVideos]

How can the stealing / uploading business model be BAD or NOT WORK , when YouTube even has full length movies, every and anything is on Youtube. you are all fooling yourselves if you think you are making a dent and paying for content works. my 2 cents.. I like the Youtube business model (Let them upload)

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Paully

They are with Level3 hosting. I'd get a hold of them and their ad guys, Live Jasmin will probably dump them for the multiple popunders alone, and I know Paul with Ero Advertising will work with you.

Good luck.

They won't do shit, because it makes them a lot of money.
Just like with TPB and the other warez sites they have been funding since day one.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by MegaVideos

How can the stealing / uploading business model be BAD or NOT WORK , when YouTube even has full length movies, every and anything is on Youtube. you are all fooling yourselves if you think you are making a dent and paying for content works. my 2 cents.. I like the Youtube business model (Let them upload)

It depends on who you consider it being "BAD" for or "NOT WORKING" for. It's great for the thieves, bad for the producers.

Theft is theft no matter how anyone spins it. The thieves will always make it seem like a great idea because they don't know how to do anything else.

[NEW XTC]

Bump for JAIL TIME
for owner of Child Porn Hub Motherless.com

[dgraves]

That's the thing I don't understand. Someone can have an entire site full of CP and just claim it's all "user" uploaded. Tubes aren't required to maintain 2257 records so how could authorities be able to verify legal age?

[CIVMatt]

Marks on the money, you guys spend so much time bitching about them and nothing about the advertisers we all know supporting them.

[nikki99]

look at this

http://www.xbiz.com/news/177714

[digitaldivas]

Bump for you dgraves

[deltav]

Originally Posted by nikki99

look at this

http://www.xbiz.com/news/177714

Yeah, it only takes a few minutes browsing that site to realize there's a lot of sketchy shit going on there, and not just from the piracy angle. Most tubes are shady by nature, but that's the main one where I think "this webmaster is going to get a lot of trouble someday unless he's smart and cashes out soon". Which I don't see happening.

[lezinterracial]

Undercover agents have been placing ads and catching people on that site for a while. I don't know if the feds will shut it down, Too easy to catch bad guys there.

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012...-with-a-minor/

[dgraves]

Lie down with dogs...

[AdPatron]

Hope they sell a lot of advertising.

[xXXtesy10]

Heard these Motherless guys were recently at TPF hangin' with all the bros. YES!!!!!

[xXXtesy10]

[Just Alex]

I can see why board warriors don't have any balls say shit to them in person

[NEW XTC]

Bump for JAIL TIME
for owner of Child Porn Hub Motherless.com

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

Looks like a photo that could be taken at any gay bar on a Friday night.

They all look very close.

[Rumbledog]

Some one should fly me out to a trade show when the owners of motherless attend.

I will take care of them.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by Rumbledog

Some one should fly me out to a trade show when the owners of motherless attend.

I will take care of them.

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by Rumbledog

Some one should fly me out to a trade show when the owners of motherless attend.

I will take care of them.

Right bro... I'm sure you will. The only thing you will take care of is their drink tab while on your knees sucking them off for traffic.