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03-11-2014, 11:40 AM | #1 |
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strange reallyusefulcash stats. any ideas?
hi gfy. this are my reallyusefulcash stats. as new sites converts well, i thought their new fakehospital can convert also. first four days, nice stream, i have been happy. then, it stopped ... then one sale, then one month nothing ... i asked on gfy in this thread
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1134512 if the bitcoins may be problem so no sales come to me? i got answer 3rd, and from then, from 5th sales are back again ... here are my stats screenshot ... is this normal and i am just a piece of fucking idiot? or what is going on please? thank you in advance for any asnwers, test joins starting this week, results in few weeks as i will be doing not only one test join, because as you can see, there are things that makes you go hmmm ... have luck with your business everyone |
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so all looks normal for you guys ... ?
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03-11-2014, 12:34 PM | #3 |
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Stuff like this can happen when the traffic is fairly small in volume
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03-11-2014, 12:38 PM | #4 |
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well... seriously... i don't see anything wrong, maybe i just don't know how your sites work, but that's a normal pattern from my perspective
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03-11-2014, 12:43 PM | #6 |
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03-11-2014, 12:45 PM | #7 |
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Might be a dumb question but.... with RUC , does the first affiliate to refer the surfer to the site or the last affiliate to refer the person to the site get the credit for the sale ?
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03-11-2014, 12:47 PM | #8 |
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My stats look similar, after about 3.5k traffic 0 conversions then all of a sudden after I sent them a complain email a few conversions in a couple of days. After that month another 5k with 0 conversions.
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03-11-2014, 12:55 PM | #9 |
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i know how my low traffic looks like, and if its 6 sales in first 4 days, it must be sale at least one per week. not like 30 days dried, it is simply not possible! also, strange thing is that i started receiving sales again when i posted in other thread and got answer from ruc owner, and, i am receiving similar stream of sales as before at the beginning before something went wrong at 26th january ... i have never had similar results, never. i can have like few sales in one month, sprad to whole month, but it is not possible to have six sales in four days and then one sales in fourty days! with the exactly the same quality of traffic ... it is not possible ... maybe you guys are just happy for all the sales you make, but i am expecting more, from all what i see so far ... ... test joins are on the way, it will bring the light on some things i believe ...
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It's just with traffic at that levels, it's hard to gauge if it's bad luck, banner fatigue, or just fluctuations if you're concerned, take out the credit card, join via your link, hit him up right after
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03-11-2014, 12:57 PM | #11 |
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You had one flurry of active sales at the beginning of your screen shot, and another at the end. Let it ride IMHO.
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03-11-2014, 01:00 PM | #12 |
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thats it. i had stream, then it stopped. i changed nothing on my side, the traffic is still the same, uniques daily, new, highly targetted. then, after 1 sale in 40 days, i asked ruc owner if it is normal, he said he will look at it, then second day, stream started again ... maybe just my paranoia and i will get answer from him here, but, test joins, that will be the best answer ...
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03-11-2014, 01:25 PM | #14 |
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if interested, contact me at radimcillik at gmail and i will give your programs some test joins
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03-11-2014, 03:26 PM | #15 |
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that's normal IMO, you can't expect daily sales in 2014
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03-11-2014, 05:18 PM | #16 |
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03-11-2014, 06:34 PM | #17 |
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I think it's harder to sell to the clinic fetish niche than the other Ruseful sites, at least it is for me..
But I recently made http://fakehospitalhd.com/ and more to come, will let you know how sales are soon.
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03-11-2014, 06:58 PM | #18 |
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This is the first thing I would suspect:
The program left the fraud scrub wide open for a new site to encourage affiliates to send traffic then when they felt the mission was accomplished (or started seeing some fraud) they increased security a little bit and maybe even went a little too far. Then after people started noticing and questioning it they started looking for some middle ground. As a site owner I find it very hard to strike the right balance. When affiliates are happy the bank is not, and vice versa.
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03-11-2014, 07:14 PM | #20 |
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Could be just a run of bad luck. Strange as it may be. This does happen from time to time. I would keep the links up and let it ride.
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The only thing that is strange is that sales came back after you raised the question.
I know nothing of the program but I am pretty sure teencat wouldn't promote a program with known issues so strange as it seems, it is almost certainly just a coincidence. I would leave it running now you are in the groove and see how long you stay there.
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03-11-2014, 07:28 PM | #22 | |
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Nats let you internally scrub out affiliate sales, don't think they are communicating with the third party biller to heighten fraud sale concerns. Of course, I'm dumb and could be wrong |
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03-11-2014, 07:36 PM | #23 |
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Yeah in that case never mind.
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This convo has nothing to do with those that use third party billers... ie ruseful, because they cannot control it. |
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My question was NOT related to OP's issue. I was asking because basically what he said sounded something like: I get frauded and lose money so to compensate for that I simply shave ALL affiliates, even though only shady ones are responsible for majority of fraud. |
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Yes,JT said how he doesn't give a shit.
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Shoot like that can happen. At 800 unique clicks per day it should level out.
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03-12-2014, 02:26 AM | #34 |
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You know I am a traditional type of guy. If I was you I would try asking them ?
You post the same stuff in every thread that JT posts in, and every time he suggests that you should contact him with your affiliate ID and he will help you out. What is it you want from this drama ?
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and once again, it doenst matter how much traffic you send ... if you have 1:2 sales vs submits first days, then there is 40 days with 0:30 sales vs submits, then there is back again 1:2 sales vs submits, say whatever you want, but something must have happenned those 40 days, right? doesnt matter how much traffic i send, it is just simple counting ...
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Or you can make snide comments everytime JT posts, and create threads insinuating malpractice. So if you are a program owner do you put your time and resource into in house traffic generation (something JT is absolutely on top of) or do you piss about with whiny two bit affiliate webmasters that think going straight to gfy is the correct way to conduct yourself.
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For example, I can choose to accept or not accept transaction where: 1) The customer IP country does not match the Billing Address country (usually fraud but people travel and travelers masturbate) 2) The billing address is not correct, or not exactly correct. (people sometimes move and don't update) 3) CVV code is incorrect 4) Surfers country has a higher rate of fraud than I am comfortable with 5) Surfer already made x attempts to join that were unsuccessful for various reasons 6) Surfers address, email or IP is on a blacklist cause they are known to have charged back in the past 7) Surfer is using a card that is either prepaid or does not generally support rebilling And a few others. All the above filters are great for preventing fraud but can also stop genuine transactions where the surfer is either unlucky or just not real bright. I have personally been stopped from performing genuine transactions by most of them, usually due to drinking or travelling. That's what I mean when I say scrub. This cannot easily be done on a per affiliate basis using any system I am aware of, changes would be across the board, and with 3rd parties like Epoch it is pretty unlikely though not impossible that there could be custom scrub levels. Shaving on the other hand is when you take the surfers money and don't credit the affiliate. I used Epoch as a biller for awhile and during that time had some fraud issues with certain affiliates, Epoch's method of handling that was to disable the individual affiliates involved and leave the scrub level untouched (as far as I could tell) so I doubt there is any custom scrubbing going on, it's just not Epoch's usual method, based on my experience.
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No drama. Just two bit third world fools rub me up the wrong way. I would close your sad act account if I was JT.
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Raws vs uniques are extremely odd. Is there a reason for this on your side? If you can't think of one try to set up some outbound hit tracking where you can track IPs and find out how many uniques you really are sending.
I would go with your gut. No those kind of swings aren't normal. It's somewhat normal for the beginning and end of the month to be better but not like that. After doing this for so long your instincts are likely to be correct. Trust them.
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because i want to know why i have strange stats and that i never got answer in email, instead of all is good at our side classic? no more words, back to the work, you too
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very low traffic , cant tell. needs at least 3-4k at todays market. unless its very very taragetted
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03-13-2014, 08:54 AM | #48 |
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ruc is clearly assfucking you teencat. dont waste your time promoting such shit
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According to your screenshots you're approximately at 7158 hits and 14 sales? (correct me if I'm wrong, I crunched the numbers quickly).
Thats a 1:511 ratio. How is that bad? With such low volumes of traffic, Variance comes widly into play. (Variance explained in poker terms) I know its easy to think the program is cheating you, but honestly, I think this is just a case of your sample size being too small to come to any conclusions yet.
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Also, I had a few sales in that period at under 1:1000, 3 sales and 4 rebills yesterday at 1:167 and even got a -1 refund, never seen that before.. Everyone's different, statistics is dumb, like Mark Twain said: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
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