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Old 09-26-2014, 08:46 AM   #1
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Another cop shoots somebody for nothing.

Good luck to everyone trying to live in America.
Remember to tell a police officer about every muscle you may attempt to move ahead of time.

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Might have been nice if you put the rest of the story.

1. He was fired.
2. He was arrested for the shooting.
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Might have been nice if you put the rest of the story.

1. He was fired.
2. He was arrested for the shooting.
Cool, so that means the guy has now been unshot right?

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Would be nice if he got close to the max punishment of 20 years. He did try his best to execute the man after all. I doubt he'll get more than a year if he's even convicted at all. Thankfully his shooting skills were just as bad as his judgment.
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Cool, so that means the guy has now been unshot right?

do murder victims become 'unshot' when their murderers are arrested? Do you have a point or are you trying to say all cops are evil because of this one asshole?
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Two things here. One on private property the cops can't ticket you, as in at malls or other businesses parking lots, etc. So driving around a mall or in a gas station parking lot you don't need to wear a seat belt or stop at mall stop signs, etc. Second our cops rarely pull their guns, in fact its trained as a last resort option. If they run a plate and it comes back the owner is a known gang member, they can pull them, regular traffic stop, they need a good reason. Guns drawn can lead to accidental discharge and here they want to avoid that. The cop in this video was an idiot, he shouldn't be enforcing seat belt laws on private property and had no real reason to pull his gun. He's lucky it didn't end even worse, I.e. the guy was shot dead. Hope he gets some jail time, but something tells me it will be ruled accidental discharge and he may even get his job back.
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This is why all police officers should have body cameras. If there wasn't video footage, I'd be willing to bet big money that the outcome would have been quite different for both the officer and the victim.
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My advice is to always act as if every officer is ready to shoot you if you sneeze unannounced. I always tell my friends before a road trip to never take your hands off the wheel if pulled over. WAIT for the officer to instruct you before reaching for anything, and if you have to go to a back pocket, purse, or glove compartment, announce it! If the cops tell each other that it's a war zone out there, then you better act like it's a war zone out there too.
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do murder victims become 'unshot' when their murderers are arrested? Do you have a point or are you trying to say all cops are evil because of this one asshole?
I was trying to say that his post was the dumbest response I've had in my life but then you went and out did him.

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do murder victims become 'unshot' when their murderers are arrested? Do you have a point or are you trying to say all cops are evil because of this one asshole?
well its a lot more than one asshole since there seems to be stories about cops beating people, shooting people, raping people on almost a daily basis.
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Two things here. One on private property the cops can't ticket you, as in at malls or other businesses parking lots, etc. So driving around a mall or in a gas station parking lot you don't need to wear a seat belt or stop at mall stop signs, etc. Second our cops rarely pull their guns, in fact its trained as a last resort option. If they run a plate and it comes back the owner is a known gang member, they can pull them, regular traffic stop, they need a good reason. Guns drawn can lead to accidental discharge and here they want to avoid that. The cop in this video was an idiot, he shouldn't be enforcing seat belt laws on private property and had no real reason to pull his gun. He's lucky it didn't end even worse, I.e. the guy was shot dead. Hope he gets some jail time, but something tells me it will be ruled accidental discharge and he may even get his job back.
Not completely true.

Certain malls and shopping centers will have a sign posted at the entrance alerting you to the fact that all traffic laws are in effect.
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I was trying to say that his post was the dumbest response I've had in my life but then you went and out did him.

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this is crazy, this police officer is total lunatic
I doubt anyone agrees with me here but I don't think the cop was trying to kill him. I also don't think he did it on purpose. He asked for license and the dude went back into the car pretty quickly. The cop obviously thought he was pulling a gun and got scared.

Now I'll say this. That doesn't excuse him. He made a mistake that could have killed someone. He should deffinitly be fired. But prison time seems like it's a bit to far.

It was a mistake. Cops deal with a lot if shit. You have to assume people will pull guns on you. Especially in the US.
My friend is a police officer he tells me stories. He's been shot beore.

This is what happens when you're not cautious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-ycSkoYfc

I hate this cop hating mentality. I agree many cops are ass holes and do kill innocents. But many cops are also out there risking their lives for you fuckwits.

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I doubt anyone agrees with me here but I don't think the cop was trying to kill him. I also don't think he did it on purpose. He asked for license and the dude went back into the car pretty quickly. The cop obviously thought he was pulling a gun and igor scared.

Now I'll say this. That doesn't excuse him. He made a mistake that could have killed someone. He should deffinitly be fired. But prison time seems like it's a bit to far.

It was a mistake. Cops deal with a lot if shit. You have to assume people will pull guns on you. Especially in the US.
My friend is a police officer he tells me stories. He's been Shot beore.

This is what happens when you're not cautious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-ycSkoYfc

I hate this cop hating mentality. I agree many cops are ass holes and do kill innocents. But many cops are also out there risking their lives for you fuckwits.
i agree with your opinion on the event. however the 'cop hating mentality' seems to be rather deserved at this point.
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I hate this cop hating mentality. I agree many cops are ass holes and do kill innocents. But many cops are also out there risking their lives for you fuckwits.

Risking their lives my ass. Its more dangerous being a farmer or truck driver than a cop.
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Risking their lives my ass. Its more dangerous being a farmer or truck driver than a cop.

You're just spewing bull shit now. Why don't you attempt to have an intelligent discussion on the matter.

We both know being a truck driver or farmer isn't as dangerous as being a police officer.
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I'm sure even a fuckwit can realize that people hate cops who are assholes and kill innocents and don't hate cops who do a good job.
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i agree with your opinion on the event. however the 'cop hating mentality' seems to be rather deserved at this point.
Even if the majority of police officers are bad. It's wrong to hate them all.

Doing so would mean it's ok to hate all black people. Just because the majority may cause problems.

Before you start calling me racist. It's pretty well known that blacks commit much more crimes.

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What is funny is the BMNN posted this story yesterday when it was fresh and included an excerpt from the actual article.
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You're just spewing bull shit now. Why don't you attempt to have an intelligent discussion on the matter.

We both know being a truck driver or farmer isn't as dangerous as being a police officer.

Orly? Being a pig isnt even in the top 10.





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Orly? Being a pig isnt even in the top 10.





http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/15/...bs-in-the-u-s/
That's actually pretty amazing. I had no idea.


According to this list Police officer is #10.
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/11...bs-in-america/

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What is funny is the BMNN posted this story yesterday when it was fresh and included an excerpt from the actual article.

You did I even credited the original posting to you.
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CNN did a piece on ongoing study into with cop decision making and shootings and I thought at least one of the conclusions was interesting:

" (the study) ...volunteers of all races often viewed African American suspects as more threatening than white suspects, but that they may have subconsciously overcompensated because of that bias"
"The surprise is that they were more restrained in shooting African Americans than they were whites"
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Even if the majority of police officers are bad. It's wrong to hate them all.

Doing so would mean it's ok to hate all black people. Just because the majority may cause problems.

Before you start calling me racist. It's pretty well known that blacks commit much more crimes.

i think any form of hate is wrong.. star wars and all that.

however, i am confused on how questioning the actions of some lead to 'hating them all'. maybe you perceive all these threads, groups, et al as 'hate groups'.. but i believe it maybe just the reaction to 'forced blood tests', '12 hour colonoscopy sessions', and police forces having more military equipment in US neighbourhoods than Iraq War Veterns did.

i don't want to talk about minorities accounting for 80% of your prison populations. if you want to make that a racial thing, be my guest. in about 50 years time, 'black' will transfer to 'poor' and people will still be making money off sending people to prison, while charging you, the taxpayer, for the convenience.

sigh i didn't even look at that chart. pot possession? snort.
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I doubt anyone agrees with me here but I don't think the cop was trying to kill him. I also don't think he did it on purpose.
He shot at him 4 times. What else would one expect to happen after firing 4 times at someone? Those weren't warning shots. He just happens to be a horrible shot.
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wow you sure owned up to a specific one of those didn't you Am I supposed to show up at your door or something? I'm not that creepy ;)

Cops are all over the media now because they are a hot topic. There is far less corruption than there used to be but there is no story there. Same as earthquakes. There is no insurgence of them in the last 10-20, 100 years even but the news is going nuts with reporting every single one now that people are duped into thinking there is an increasing issue with them and that the planet is going to blow up.

You guys are the first ones to talk about media propaganda and sensationalism but this is EXACTLY that. the only difference is this is something that you are more in line with.
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i think any form of hate is wrong.. star wars and all that.

however, i am confused on how questioning the actions of some lead to 'hating them all'. maybe you perceive all these threads, groups, et al as 'hate groups'.. but i believe it maybe just the reaction to 'forced blood tests', '12 hour colonoscopy sessions', and police forces having more military equipment in US neighbourhoods than Iraq War Veterns did.

i don't want to talk about minorities accounting for 80% of your prison populations. if you want to make that a racial thing, be my guest. in about 50 years time, 'black' will transfer to 'poor' and people will still be making money off sending people to prison, while charging you, the taxpayer, for the convenience.
Well.. I can't argue with you here. I agree with all of this. Police officers are far to heavily equipted and they should definitely be monitored much more closely.

Cops should have to obey the law even more then regular civilians since police officers are the ones who uphold the law.

The system is definitely fucked up.

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He shot at him 4 times. What else would one expect to happen after firing 4 times at someone? Those weren't warning shots. He just happens to be a horrible shot.
Yea. He was scared. He thought he pulled a gun. When he realized the guy didn't have a gun he seized fire and tried to asses the situation. He called for backup letting them know "shots fired"

If I thought someone was pulling a gun on me I would unload a clip.

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wow you sure owned up to a specific one of those didn't you Am I supposed to show up at your door or something? I'm not that creepy ;)

Cops are all over the media now because they are a hot topic. There is far less corruption than there used to be but there is no story there. Same as earthquakes. There is no insurgence of them in the last 10-20, 100 years even but the news is going nuts with reporting every single one now that people are duped into thinking there is an increasing issue with them and that the planet is going to blow up.

You guys are the first ones to talk about media propaganda and sensationalism but this is EXACTLY that. the only difference is this is something that you are more in line with.
oh no, id show you around vancouver and try to make you see what is good about life, rather than running your mouth on an message board against people you have never met.

seems like you're trying to get back to the whole point of the thread, but, since you have entirely discredited yourself, i am not even going bother.
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wow you sure owned up to a specific one of those didn't you Am I supposed to show up at your door or something? I'm not that creepy ;)

Cops are all over the media now because they are a hot topic. There is far less corruption than there used to be but there is no story there. Same as earthquakes. There is no insurgence of them in the last 10-20, 100 years even but the news is going nuts with reporting every single one now that people are duped into thinking there is an increasing issue with them and that the planet is going to blow up.

You guys are the first ones to talk about media propaganda and sensationalism but this is EXACTLY that. the only difference is this is something that you are more in line with.
Yawn, give me one scientific reason why the world couldn't just blow up.

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Old 09-26-2014, 12:00 PM   #40
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Two things here. One on private property the cops can't ticket you, as in at malls or other businesses parking lots, etc. So driving around a mall or in a gas station parking lot you don't need to wear a seat belt or stop at mall stop signs, etc.
What law school did you graduate from?
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:01 PM   #41
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Yea. He was scared. He thought he pulled a gun. When he realized the guy didn't have a gun he seized fire and tried to asses the situation. He called for backup letting them know "shots fired"

If I thought someone was pulling a gun on me I would unload a clip.
It just escapes you that there would be no shooting at all if the cop had simply said "freeze, don't move" instead of yelling "GET OUT OF THE CAR".

He shoots the guy for quickly obeying his excitedly yelled out command of get out of the car.

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It just escapes you that there would be no shooting at all if the cop had simply said "freeze, don't move" instead of yelling "GET OUT OF THE CAR".

He shoots the guy for quickly obeying his excitedly yelled out command of get out of the car.

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Yea he made a mistake.
But this wasn't an attempted murder. No reason for prison like someone above said.

He should be fired for sure. Obviously he isn't fit for the job.

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Old 09-26-2014, 12:10 PM   #43
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Yea he made a mistake.
But this wasn't an attempted murder. No reason for prison like someone above said.

He should be fired for sure. Obviously he isn't fit for the job.
Nobody charged him with attempted murder.

It's real simple : You don't care that somebody got shot, other people do and want something done about it.

That's the difference.
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Yeah this guy is innocent, just like Michael Brown was an upstanding citizen who never was in a robbery, or fought with a police officer before being shot. Innocent all around. Cops are the real enemies here.
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Nobody charged him with attempted murder.

It's real simple : You don't care that somebody got shot, other people do and want something done about it.

That's the difference.
I do care that someone was shot. I just feel like most people here that are calling cops "pigs" just hate all cops no matter what the case is and they would vote guilty without even looking at the situation.

The post above me is a great example of what i'm talking about.
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The post above me is a great example of what i'm talking about.
I don't know if you're talking about me, and didn't catch my sarcasm, but I'm on your side.
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I don't know if you're talking about me, and didn't catch my sarcasm, but I'm on your side.
I was talking about you. It's hard to tell if someones being sarcastic in a forum post sorry about that.
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I was talking about you. It's hard to tell if someones being sarcastic in a forum post sorry about that.
No worries. As someone who's been in trouble with the law many times, I have always cooperated with the police and have always had good outcomes. Hell I'm in the process of talking with the police right now for a drunken night I did something stupid. Because of cooperating and being good, they're helping me out even though they don't need to.

But that's alright. All cops are pigs according to people who read bullshit stories on the internet.
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Yeah this guy is innocent, just like Michael Brown was an upstanding citizen who never was in a robbery, or fought with a police officer before being shot. Innocent all around. Cops are the real enemies here.
a robbery at a place where he has store credit?

i am sure plenty of people leaving for harvard in 3 days time wanna steal a box of cigars
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