Business Google AdWords change in policy regarding adult sites

[xpimp]

Originally Posted by Relentless

http://pornharms.com/big-win-google-stops-porn-ads/

"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

[PSD]

Just called in US, the persons interpretation I spoke with was that nude was ok so long as there is not sexually explicit activity. If anyone else calls, would be interested to hear what they tell you.

[thesun12]

related content systems will rise in adult biz too. same as they did last year with mainstream. bypassed google

[SleepWalker]

Originally Posted by xpimp

"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

Disturbing, these people seem to think Google will not allow promotion of any adult site, even if the content is locked in the members section!

is this what they mean by : "it seems Google will also no longer link to sites that contain such materials, no matter how benign their advertising." ??

it is confusing. At this point I wouldn't even thrust what their staff said over the phone. They don't have more info than we do. Why suddenly a none nude page would be required, their release says hardcore, masturbation, etc. They never used the word nudity.

[seeric]

We spoke to Google today. They are NOT discontinuing adult Adwords. They are going to roll out additional algos to clean up the advertising further. Nothing to see here.

[deltav]

Originally Posted by xpimp

"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

It is kinda grating to that gaggle of smug little puritans. That organization, Morality In Media, was founded by a bunch of priests - no wonder they hate sex.

But... your claim that "google gradually will dig it's own hole" is a bit silly. They've evolved so far beyond being an adspace-selling search engine, at this point they're playing on a completely different field than that.

[SleepWalker]

Maybe we will get more infos from this thread:

https://www.en.adwords-community.com...toy/m-p/359440

I hope this part: " I agree. Documentation control (revision #, and date) should be in place, on any documentation. I will bring up this point with the Policy team at Google." will help in bringing some details a more importantly, a fix date before when the changes have to be made.

[Mr.Fiction]

Will Google ban sites that link to hardcore content or only sites that show hardcore content?

[xpimp]

i don't know and i don't care anymore, if someone doesn't want your money in their advertising program, why bother? there are so many options out there.

for me it's pretty clear: if you have softcore content, like a non nude facebook page, where you don t even post any hardcore links, just very soft images, then you should be pretty much ok, otherwise you will risk it and even with that softcore images, still will be risky, it will depend of how their mood will be over time.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Dumped them when they told me Emily 18 wasn't old enough to make her own decisions about sex

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by seeric

We spoke to Google today. They are NOT discontinuing adult Adwords. They are going to roll out additional algos to clean up the advertising further. Nothing to see here.

Could you elaborate a little? This seems contradictory to the message they have sent advertisers and the impression everyone affected has about the upcoming changes.

The email is pretty clear: "Beginning in the coming weeks, we'll no longer accept ads that promote graphic depictions of sexual acts including, but not limited to, hardcore
pornography; graphic sexual acts including sex acts such as masturbation;
genital, anal, and oral sexual activity."

As for Google this is not being handled well at all. They ask us to make changes but clearly they aren't even clear internally what the specific policy is. The assumption I made was, basically, if you have any kind of "sexual activity" you won't be using AdWords anymore.

[MorePassion4U]

[QUOTE=InfoGuy;20113870]If it's just limited to sex toys, it's probably ok, but if dvds are also included, then no.

At least some of the industry can carry on with Adwords

[iwantchixx]

maybe its a good thing as I dont thing big G is being honest on their click reports for adword campaigns anyways.

For one campaign we have 1,749 clicks (according to adwords) but...
only 53 clicks registered by NATS...

[Peter-Porn]

Wtf is going to happen?

[BigFurry]

Originally Posted by Tent Pitcher

If you haven't used Bing for adult ads before, it can be a real pain...they have a whitelist of "adult" keywords that you are allowed to use, which exponentially increases the cost of bidding since there are a lot of people (demand) and a finite number of keywords (supply).

Btw, to those who deal with Bing - should all upvote this, and also individually bring up this issue with their support, to make whitelisting keywords easier.

Suggestion: "New Adult Keywords should be judged by Search Traffic, not Impressions"
http://anonym.to/?http://bingads.use...by-search-traf

It's nearly impossible to whitelist new adult keywords now, because of the particular flawed practice.

[NewNick]

Thing is this has been policy for some time - when they start policing it, then you will have something to complain about.

I just did a search for adult cams. All of the adwords slots were as usual.

[adultmobile]

So what's the status? Looks like you can link to topless landings (so less soft as the soft landing of roald's seventeen) as long as this does not link itself to hardcore pages before the join page? And for cams I assume ok for clothed preview but not the play for free landings (this is live so for example in mfc, chaturbate etc. you can't filter these room out really).

[HandballJim]

It's crazy how they can dictate a major percentage of the internet. I guess Search.xxx might have some value in the future. Once people can't find what they are searching for they will search somewhere else.

[American Psycho]

Bump for more info...

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by deltav

But... your claim that "google gradually will dig it's own hole" is a bit silly. They've evolved so far beyond being an adspace-selling search engine, at this point they're playing on a completely different field than that.

Yeah but most of their revenue still comes from serving ads. If you read articles related to their shares you'll see this and also that attitudes are changing slightly (for now) about their positions to go long google.

There is also more and more negative sentiment among people towards google. It will be slow but I think they are losing ground, bit by bit, everyday.

I also know that they are buying up every company they can (it seems like 1 per day) but whether or not they will be able to do anything with them remains to be seen.

[seeandsee]

find other traffic source

[fetishwealth]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

find other traffic source

yep but sometimes they are the best suited for the traffic needs.

[American Psycho]

Bumpppppp

[Clay]

Originally Posted by PSD

Anyone want to take a guess at what they will consider "hardcore pornography"?

So no graphic sexual acts or activity, so does that just leave sites that show nudity without models touching themselves or another?!

my ad was no photos and all g-rated text except the word "Transexual" in the url, Landing page was just a signup page and that ad got removed.
heres what my Adwords ad says under Keyword:

Keyword: ladyboy
Showing ads right now? No
This keyword is not running because it points to a URL that has been suspended for site policy. Please review our landing page policies and make the appropriate updates to your website to allow your keyword to start triggering ads again. What can I do?


Btw this is a brand new never used domain name with no history. My landing page is nothing but a g rated text-only logo and a form with no sales text. There isnt even an image there. Just a logo, white page, and form. lol

[XMaster]

I'm glad to have a adult related but-not-too-hardcore product - Feel free to promote us haha.

[wehateporn]

[American Psycho]

bump... any further updates.

[timmyc38]

Originally Posted by xpimp

yeah, look also at the images section


old grandpa design google

https://www.google.com/search?q=porn...ih=939& dpr=1

and now BING!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=porn&FORM=HDRSC2


(microsot+yahoo)+(yahoo+tumblr)= microsoft xoxo porn

I remember they used to have a commercial, a blind taste test to see whose results you prefer.

I prefer the bing results above -

[PSD]

Looks like they clarified their policies a bit. States that "Visible genitalia, nipples, or buttocks" are ok so some nudity.


https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6023699

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by PSD

Looks like they clarified their policies a bit. States that "Visible genitalia, nipples, or buttocks" are ok so some nudity.


https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6023699

Thank you for the update. nice to see verified info from our douchey overlord google.

[wasteland]

The Adwords "love letters" started going out today. Anyone else get one yet?

Colin

[PSD]

No love letters yet but a bunch of sites got suspended. Most of the ads that are still approved are no longer showing due to "This ad is not eligible to run on the search network." whatever that means.

[wasteland]

Originally Posted by PSD

No love letters yet but a bunch of sites got suspended. Most of the ads that are still approved are no longer showing due to "This ad is not eligible to run on the search network." whatever that means.

Yep. I got the same message for all of our Adword Ads. All suspended with the "This ad is not eligible to run on the search network." message with some not very helpful links to "how to fix it".

Of interest also is when I googled all kinds of traditional "adult" search queries that used to have Adwords results, there are no Adword right-column listings for anyone!

But, the organic serps are all still intact, most of them giving first page to Wikipedia or various tube sites. barely a legit paysite to be found!

[2intense]

i still see lots of ads with sex cams,webcam sex etc ,all adult cam ads still show up

[PSD]

Yeah, seeing alot less adult ads, still see some though. Been reading that apparently that message means an account is either under review or suspended.

The thing I don't understand is if I link to a compliant landing page and another advertiser does not for the same site causing the site's domain to get suspended for everyone even though it was not my fault or are the site suspensions limited to each account? I ask as some site domains got suspended for sexually explicit content even though the landing pages I linked to are compliant, not even nudity.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by wasteland

Of interest also is when I googled all kinds of traditional "adult" search queries that used to have Adwords results, there are no Adword right-column listings for anyone!

Google found out that there's no more money in porn, so now worth to drop the remaining few adult ads to get as clean brand name as Apple store.

[BigFurry]

Originally Posted by PSD

The thing I don't understand is if I link to a compliant landing page and another advertiser does not for the same site causing the site's domain to get suspended for everyone even though it was not my fault or are the site suspensions limited to each account? I ask as some site domains got suspended for sexually explicit content even though the landing pages I linked to are compliant, not even nudity.

I was told that it's not only the landing page that matters.
The rejections also mention the Display URL, not Destination URL. I think the only safe way is if the entire site is compliant.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by seeric

We spoke to Google today. They are NOT discontinuing adult Adwords. They are going to roll out additional algos to clean up the advertising further. Nothing to see here.

LOL really?

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by PSD

Looks like they clarified their policies a bit. States that "Visible genitalia, nipples, or buttocks" are ok so some nudity.


https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6023699

can you have a softcore lander with a hardcore members area?

[Tom_PM]

Time to make a softcore "nude girls" site and promote it with hardcore terms?

[wasteland]

anyone else get the boom lowered on them?
C

[American Psycho]

yes my account was closed. yeayyyyyy

fuck you google!

[xpimp]

i don't get what is so hard to understand, all kind off nonsense with softcore landing page and jiberish maneuvers.

look, if you would go to a car market that sells only originals cars and you would came there with a trabby which has the car body in the perfect shape but under the hood, everything is modified - the trabby is even tuned with an engine which reaches 200 MPH, you would be disqualified? of course you do, it's just a matter of time till someone will want to look closer, under the hood and it will notice that practically is a hole different car.

same with google, if they don't want porn, just STOP! don't try to trick them if you're site is not 100% softcore.

or at least be smart, wait for 6 months or more to see what softcore ads are accepted and running for months, let others to be guinea pigs and risk their own accounts with what is allowed and what is not.

in the meantime do seo and buy traffic from other sources which allow porn.

i never understood this thing, practically to beg with your own money for someone to accept you, which said very clear they don't allow porn anymore.

people are changing adult affiliate programs, adult ad networks etc. at a snap of a finger all the time if they don't allow anymore something in particular but google? no, that is the end of the world!

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by xpimp

in the meantime do seo and buy traffic from other sources which allow porn.

I don't have an adwords account but seo is dead and buying traffic from other sources isn't as profitable. There's a reason people cry when google closes up shop to you. They have most of the free traffic and paid targeted traffic too.

[rabbit]

so they have started disabling cam sites as well

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by rabbit

so they have started disabling cam sites as well

Is this a question or a fact?

[SomeCreep]

Fascinating that Google is so big now and making so much money that they are in the position to deny the adult industry the right to advertise soley based on their moral beliefs. Everything else they might say about creating a better user experience is bullshit. Apple did the same. They would rather forgo $100's of millions in profit to stand their ground with the ideal that porn is wrong. What a bunch of fucking assholes.

[rabbit]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Is this a question or a fact?

fact. got mine and hearing a few others got theirs banned

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Fascinating that Google is so big now and making so much money that they are in the position to deny the adult industry the right to advertise soley based on their moral beliefs.

It's not based on their moral beliefs. It's based on how they will be perceived. They want to 'appear' moral and so take this stand against porn to look good. Most of their money comes from everything BUT porn so it's an easy way to look good.

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Everything else they might say about creating a better user experience is bullshit.

Pretty much. They do things to make profit and not for user experience.

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

They would rather forgo $100's of millions in profit to stand their ground with the ideal that porn is wrong. What a bunch of fucking assholes.

If they were indeed moral then they should eliminate all porn from their search engine results but they don't. WHY? Because then people would use other search engines and google doesn't want that. So in a way google profits from having porn in their search results and are not willing to guve up that profitability. They are against porn only if they have little to lose. Double standard.

[Fat Panda]

this is great news. bravo google!