Selling Apple Short A Good Idea? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 09-14-2014, 03:40 AM

Steve Jobs was the visionary and the face of Apple - I can't see the company maintaining the wave of trendsetting technology without him. So that eventually has to mean Apple returns to earth along with its stock value.

Yes? No?

AdultKing · 09-14-2014, 03:51 AM

While Johnny Ive and Tim Cook remain I would bet that Apple will still stay the brand that everyone else wants to be.

SBJ · 09-14-2014, 04:41 AM

no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered.

Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

Best-In-BC · 09-14-2014, 05:19 AM

lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

AdultKing · 09-14-2014, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

So shitty that Apple is the worlds largest company by market capitalisation

BabeHunter · 09-14-2014, 05:49 AM

I think it's too early for shorting apple at least for long term.
but you can always gamble and buy some cheap PUT options for like 6 months from now.

ErectMedia · 09-14-2014, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered.

Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Smart kid, probably turn into a Scientist

Famemonster · 09-14-2014, 07:41 AM

I would not short Apple. I have made a lot of money holding apple over the years, I have sold portions when it was high and bought back later when it was low. Unless you are putting a large sum of money in when it is really high and have read something in a press releases or somehwere that it is going to drop, i would hold IMO

VikingMan · 09-14-2014, 07:59 AM

Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

BabeHunter · 09-14-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan

Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

How about GPRO? i did a short term short a while ago, paid off nicely, should have gone long when it fliped hehe could have double my money hehe

Jet Set Cat · 09-14-2014, 08:55 AM

Apple shorts are too rich and risky for my blood.

Rather just bet $200 on Delta Outlaw in the 4th at Monmouth today.

At least I know the risk both upside and downside.

Dvae · 09-14-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

Wow... So much hate, so little time!

Dvae · 09-14-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan

Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock.

Good call. Panera has now declared itself a gun-free zone.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1932198

seeandsee · 09-14-2014, 10:18 AM

how the fuck they sell their story year after year?
iphone6 SUCKS, because it should be million years ahead, but no they want to sell phones every year...

edgeprod · 09-14-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

how the fuck they sell their story year after year?
iphone6 SUCKS, because it should be million years ahead, but no they want to sell phones every year...

Clearly, it's the market that's wrong, not you. Blindly hating on Apple has become just as lame as blindly loving them.

AdultKing · 09-14-2014, 01:04 PM

Watching Bloomberg Mornings, they're reporting Apple may have underestimated initial demand for the iPhone 6.

So I guess it must really suck

MaDalton · 09-14-2014, 01:04 PM

i'm 30% up, i'll keep mine

slapass · 09-14-2014, 03:11 PM

You have to say it might be harder for them to grow from here.

mineistaken · 09-14-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

That is exactly their style - present some old technology and brainwash isheeple into thinking that it is revolution

KillerK · 09-14-2014, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

That is exactly their style - present some old technology and brainwash isheeple into thinking that it is revolution

They still make the best laptops.

VikingMan · 09-23-2014, 08:46 PM

Ok I shorted Twitter TWTR today and since I usually lose money you guys should go long.

. If this turd falls to 35 I can make back all the money I lost this year shorting Facebook.

georgeyw · 09-23-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

So shitty that Apple is the worlds largest company by market capitalisation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_by_revenue

Shoplifter · 09-23-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Steve Jobs was the visionary and the face of Apple - I can't see the company maintaining the wave of trendsetting technology without him. So that eventually has to mean Apple returns to earth along with its stock value.

Yes? No?

Not yet.

Although I do believe they are losing their interest in the expense of innovation and to some extent are flogging what will eventually be a dead horse.

However they did sell 10 million phones last week, and even I bought a 6+ and it is indeed the best phone that Apple has yet produced.

So not yet.

xxxjay · 09-23-2014, 10:49 PM

Apple is just barely carving out its niche in China. I say hold or buy... there is no way there is a short coming

Sid70 · 09-24-2014, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i'm 30% up, i'll keep mine

Would you recommend a broker to get into the game?

VikingMan · 09-24-2014, 09:27 AM

Twitter is up over 1% today. Told you guys to bet against me. It is almost a sure thing

PR_Glen · 09-24-2014, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

lol, Visionary, Yeah right, get off his dick and his shitty computers. The guy was a POS human being

i've always hated apple products, i just don't try to justify it with bullshit like how you just did...

oh and as for an investment? No, same reason why its risky to invest short term, tech stocks bounce all over the place and are very hard to predict, especially when 'cool' is a factor.

VSKevin · 09-24-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered.

Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

Lol iSheople. Pretty much as long as we have tech retarded people, Apple will be around. Teaching my mom to use an Android is much harder than just giving her an iPhone and telling her to figure it out.

xxxjay · 09-24-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VSKevin

Lol iSheople. Pretty much as long as we have tech retarded people, Apple will be around. Teaching my mom to use an Android is much harder than just giving her an iPhone and telling her to figure it out.

Primitive man was afraid of fire, till he explored it's many uses.

NETbilling · 09-25-2014, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered.

Both of their parents are iphone owners.

Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years..

It goes far beyond the size of the screen. The ease-of-use, app quality, user flow, and overall user experience is awesome. Tat what makes people love their products, not the size of the screen or the speed of the processor.

Mitch

BabeHunter · 09-25-2014, 07:18 AM

If apple will have to recall all those problematic "bending" iPhone 6, then we might see Apple go down to 85-90$ in the next few weeks

VikingMan · 10-13-2014, 06:45 PM

Thank you Jesus! Just another 14 points and I am out. Is TWTR the shittiest stock ever?

Joshua G · 10-14-2014, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BabeHunter

I think it's too early for shorting apple at least for long term.
but you can always gamble and buy some cheap PUT options for like 6 months from now.

yes this company has way too much cash & sales to gamble on a long term short. much better to put a little hi-risk money on out-of-the-money puts then to tie up investment equity on a short.

good post.

VikingMan · 12-08-2014, 09:50 PM

TWTR closed at 36.29 today. Almost there

What to short next?

edgeprod · 12-08-2014, 10:24 PM

Price was $101.63 when you asked, it's $112.40 now (December 9th).

dicknipples · 12-08-2014, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Clearly, it's the market that's wrong, not you. Blindly hating on Apple has become just as lame as blindly loving them.

TheStout · 12-09-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan

I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped.

nico-t · 12-09-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling

and overall user experience is awesome.

jesus, you do realise you are talking about just another fucking phone right? Keep that dick in your pants dude!

hadden · 12-09-2014, 05:10 PM

Oh shares

seeandsee · 12-09-2014, 05:22 PM

I predict iphone will stay until version 10

edgeprod · 12-09-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

I predict iphone will stay until version 10

What do you base this on, aside from pulling it out of your ass?

420 · 12-09-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

What do you base this on, aside from pulling it out of your ass?

basically 10 is a nice number

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good thread, i just picked up some apple shorts

edgeprod · 12-09-2014, 07:45 PM

Sweet shorts. Where do they come from?

TheSquealer · 12-09-2014, 07:47 PM

A simple suggestion would be to use past performance to anticipate future performance. There is not near enough data, post Steve Jobs to suggest that Apple can or cannot succeed for another 20 years, without Jobs. So to bet on it is just gambling on chance... not meaningful data.

420 · 12-09-2014, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Sweet shorts. Where do they come from?

china aliexpress.com

2MuchMark · 12-10-2014, 02:05 AM

Lol. I love how people who have never owned an Apple product spew hatred for something they know nothing about.

Here's some proof once again why Apple Rocks:

About 6 weeks ago I swapped the hard drive in my now 5 year old Apple iMac27" for an SSD drive and installed the latest Yosemite Operating System on it (Free upgrade, btw).

IT had been working well up until Tuesday when suddenly my computer started freezing up on me, about once a day or so. This had never happened before.

With nothing responding at all, I had to power it down and reboot it. Fortunately since it has an SSD Drive, boot time is about 15 seconds. And since its running Yosemite, all of my previous programs and files also open. Zero work is lost and I'm back and running fast.

But still, freezing...

So anyway last Saturday I contacted Apple. (notice: Saturday). I talk to an English woman who tells me what to do, step by step, to fix the problem. Cycle power, click click, cycle again, click, done.

The entire call took about 10 minutes. Total wait time was maybe 5 seconds. No credit card needed. No Fuss, no bullshit. Just answers and instructions. My phone call didn't even need to be transferred to someone else. The first person I talked to knew exactly what to do.

Apple makes amazing products, and their service is just as amazing. They helped me with my old computer which is way passed warranty, running a free operating system, and didn't charge me a dime.

MPGdevil · 12-10-2014, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Lol. I love how people who have never owned an Apple product spew hatred for something they know nothing about.

Here's some proof once again why Apple Rocks:

About 6 weeks ago I swapped the hard drive in my now 5 year old Apple iMac27" for an SSD drive and installed the latest Yosemite Operating System on it (Free upgrade, btw).

IT had been working well up until Tuesday when suddenly my computer started freezing up on me, about once a day or so. This had never happened before.

With nothing responding at all, I had to power it down and reboot it. Fortunately since it has an SSD Drive, boot time is about 15 seconds. And since its running Yosemite, all of my previous programs and files also open. Zero work is lost and I'm back and running fast.

But still, freezing...

So anyway last Saturday I contacted Apple. (notice: Saturday). I talk to an English woman who tells me what to do, step by step, to fix the problem. Cycle power, click click, cycle again, click, done.

The entire call took about 10 minutes. Total wait time was maybe 5 seconds. No credit card needed. No Fuss, no bullshit. Just answers and instructions. My phone call didn't even need to be transferred to someone else. The first person I talked to knew exactly what to do.

Apple makes amazing products, and their service is just as amazing. They helped me with my old computer which is way passed warranty, running a free operating system, and didn't charge me a dime.

We get it.
You are years late upgrading hardware.
You are dependent on online support.
You chose to pay for it.

Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be so excited.

slapass · 12-10-2014, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil

We get it.
You are years late upgrading hardware.
You are dependent on online support.
You chose to pay for it.

Nothing wrong with that, but no need to be so excited.

The crazy thing is, he is the norm. That is why they are doing so well.

I have Samsung Galaxy S4 on my desk sitting next to an Iphone 5. I could understand the iphone right away. I am googling things on the Samsung to figure out how to do it.

Skeletorrrr · 12-10-2014, 05:45 AM

I don't like Apple

sebs.rar · 12-10-2014, 06:20 AM

i think apple is one of the big players and the answer is YES

09-14-2014, 03:40 AM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Selling Apple Short A Good Idea? Steve Jobs was the visionary and the face of Apple - I can't see the company maintaining the wave of trendsetting technology without him. So that eventually has to mean Apple returns to earth along with its stock value. Yes? No? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-14-2014, 04:41 AM	#3
SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,354	no it will continue to grow as long as iSheople are allowed to breed. I have a few nephews that are 5 and 9. They both have their own ipad minis. A year or so ago I was on my android phone and the older one asked me if that was a iphone.. When I told him what I had he rolled his eyes like my phone was junk and he couldn't be bothered. Both of their parents are iphone owners. Just look at the buzz over the iphone 5.5" phone. They make it sound like there hasn't been 5.5" phones for the last few years.. __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

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BabeHunter Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: 2nd door on the left Posts: 4,063	I think it's too early for shorting apple at least for long term. but you can always gamble and buy some cheap PUT options for like 6 months from now. __________________ Yep

09-14-2014, 07:59 AM	#9
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,323	Twitter and Facebook are going to be must better shorts when the market corrects. Problem is how far are the tards going to take this market? I have already lost way too much money trying to short some of these stocks thinking the market had topped. I may be shorting FB and TWTR this week in anticipation for an October sell off. I just gotta get the balls to do it. I would also love to short Panera Bread PNRA because I used to love that place but now fucking hate that overpriced medium quality shithole since it is turning into McDonalds. However I am not going to do it since TWTR is a much much more inflated stock. Last edited by VikingMan; 09-14-2014 at 08:06 AM..

09-14-2014, 03:51 AM	#2
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	While Johnny Ive and Tim Cook remain I would bet that Apple will still stay the brand that everyone else wants to be.

09-14-2014, 07:41 AM	#8
Famemonster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 536	I would not short Apple. I have made a lot of money holding apple over the years, I have sold portions when it was high and bought back later when it was low. Unless you are putting a large sum of money in when it is really high and have read something in a press releases or somehwere that it is going to drop, i would hold IMO

09-14-2014, 08:55 AM	#11
Jet Set Cat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 249	Apple shorts are too rich and risky for my blood. Rather just bet $200 on Delta Outlaw in the 4th at Monmouth today. At least I know the risk both upside and downside.

09-14-2014, 10:18 AM	#14
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	how the fuck they sell their story year after year? iphone6 SUCKS, because it should be million years ahead, but no they want to sell phones every year... __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

09-14-2014, 01:04 PM	#16
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	Watching Bloomberg Mornings, they're reporting Apple may have underestimated initial demand for the iPhone 6. So I guess it must really suck

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,626	You have to say it might be harder for them to grow from here.

09-23-2014, 08:46 PM	#21
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,323	Ok I shorted Twitter TWTR today and since I usually lose money you guys should go long. . If this turd falls to 35 I can make back all the money I lost this year shorting Facebook.

09-23-2014, 10:49 PM	#24
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,483	Apple is just barely carving out its niche in China. I say hold or buy... there is no way there is a short coming __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

09-24-2014, 09:27 AM	#26
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,323	Twitter is up over 1% today. Told you guys to bet against me. It is almost a sure thing

09-25-2014, 07:18 AM	#31
BabeHunter Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: 2nd door on the left Posts: 4,063	If apple will have to recall all those problematic "bending" iPhone 6, then we might see Apple go down to 85-90$ in the next few weeks __________________ Yep

10-13-2014, 06:45 PM	#32
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,323	Thank you Jesus! Just another 14 points and I am out. Is TWTR the shittiest stock ever?

12-08-2014, 09:50 PM	#34
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,323	TWTR closed at 36.29 today. Almost there What to short next?

12-08-2014, 10:24 PM	#35
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Price was $101.63 when you asked, it's $112.40 now (December 9th).

12-09-2014, 05:10 PM	#39
hadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,440	Oh shares

12-09-2014, 05:22 PM	#40
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	I predict iphone will stay until version 10 __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

12-09-2014, 07:45 PM	#43
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Sweet shorts. Where do they come from?

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,710	A simple suggestion would be to use past performance to anticipate future performance. There is not near enough data, post Steve Jobs to suggest that Apple can or cannot succeed for another 20 years, without Jobs. So to bet on it is just gambling on chance... not meaningful data. __________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

12-10-2014, 02:05 AM	#46
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 45,813	Lol. I love how people who have never owned an Apple product spew hatred for something they know nothing about. Here's some proof once again why Apple Rocks: About 6 weeks ago I swapped the hard drive in my now 5 year old Apple iMac27" for an SSD drive and installed the latest Yosemite Operating System on it (Free upgrade, btw). IT had been working well up until Tuesday when suddenly my computer started freezing up on me, about once a day or so. This had never happened before. With nothing responding at all, I had to power it down and reboot it. Fortunately since it has an SSD Drive, boot time is about 15 seconds. And since its running Yosemite, all of my previous programs and files also open. Zero work is lost and I'm back and running fast. But still, freezing... So anyway last Saturday I contacted Apple. (notice: Saturday). I talk to an English woman who tells me what to do, step by step, to fix the problem. Cycle power, click click, cycle again, click, done. The entire call took about 10 minutes. Total wait time was maybe 5 seconds. No credit card needed. No Fuss, no bullshit. Just answers and instructions. My phone call didn't even need to be transferred to someone else. The first person I talked to knew exactly what to do. Apple makes amazing products, and their service is just as amazing. They helped me with my old computer which is way passed warranty, running a free operating system, and didn't charge me a dime. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

12-10-2014, 05:45 AM	#49
Skeletorrrr Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 33	I don't like Apple

12-10-2014, 06:20 AM	#50
sebs.rar Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 34	i think apple is one of the big players and the answer is YES