Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To Avoid All-Out Ukraine War

[wehateporn]

Alarmed at the anti-Russian hysteria sweeping Washington, and the specter of a new Cold War, U.S. intelligence veterans one of whom is none other than William Binney, the former senior NSA crypto-mathematician who back in March 2012 blew the whistle on the NSA's spying programs more than a year before Edward Snowden, took the unusual step of sending the following memo dated August 30 to German Chancellor Merkel challenging the reliability of Ukrainian and U.S. media claims about a Russian "invasion."

Full story http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...d-all-out-ukra

MEMORANDUM FOR: Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
SUBJECT: Ukraine and NATO

We the undersigned are longtime veterans of U.S. intelligence. We take the unusual step of writing this open letter to you to ensure that you have an opportunity to be briefed on our views prior to the NATO summit on September 4-5.

You need to know, for example, that accusations of a major Russian "invasion" of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the "intelligence" seems to be of the same dubious, politically "fixed" kind used 12 years ago to "justify" the U.S.-led attack on Iraq. We saw no credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq then; we see no credible evidence of a Russian invasion now. Twelve years ago, former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, mindful of the flimsiness of the evidence on Iraqi WMD, refused to join in the attack on Iraq. In our view, you should be appropriately suspicions of charges made by the US State Department and NATO officials alleging a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

President Barack Obama tried yesterday to cool the rhetoric of his own senior diplomats and the corporate media, when he publicly described recent activity in the Ukraine, as "a continuation of what?s been taking place for months now ? it?s not really a shift."

Obama, however, has only tenuous control over the policymakers in his administration ? who, sadly, lack much sense of history, know little of war, and substitute anti-Russian invective for a policy. One year ago, hawkish State Department officials and their friends in the media very nearly got Mr. Obama to launch a major attack on Syria based, once again, on "intelligence" that was dubious, at best.

Largely because of the growing prominence of, and apparent reliance on, intelligence we believe to be spurious, we think the possibility of hostilities escalating beyond the borders of Ukraine has increased significantly over the past several days. More important, we believe that this likelihood can be avoided, depending on the degree of judicious skepticism you and other European leaders bring to the NATO summit next week.

Continued http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...d-all-out-ukra

[sperbonzo]

Since we're gonna run down this yellow brick road, then lets throw this one in the mix also!



http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-...emy-of-america


EX-CIA employee admits President Obama is a radical Islamic enemy of America
See also


August 28, 2014

It?s an explosive charge, one that practically accuses the president of treason.

Today, a former CIA agent bluntly told the newspaper, World Net Daily, that America has switched sides in the war on terror under President Obama. Clare Lopez was willing to say what a few members of Congress have said in private, but declined to say on-the-record.

Clare M. Lopez is the Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy and Senior Fellow at the London Center for Policy Research and the Canadian Meighen Institute and formerly with The Clarion Project . Since 2013, she has served as a member of the Citizens Commission on Benghazi. Also Vice President of the Intelligence Summit, she formerly was a career operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, a professor at the Centre for Counterintelligence and Security Studies, Executive Director of the Iran Policy Committee from 2005-2006, and has served as a consultant, intelligence analyst, and researcher for a variety of defense firms. She was named a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute in 2011.

Lopez said the global war on terror had been an effort to ?stay free of Shariah,? or repressive Islamic law, until the Obama administration began siding with such jihadist groups as the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates. Lopez believes that the Muslim Brotherhood has thoroughly infiltrated the Obama administration and other branches of the federal government. One of the most outrageous of those appointments is Mohamed Elibiary, a senior member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council. According to a report by the Center for Security Policy, Elibiary supports brokering a U.S. partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group. Two months ago, a firestorm erupted online after Elibiary tweeted that a ?Caliphate? is inevitable and compared it to the European Union.

Ms. Lopez also believes Obama had essentially the same goals in the Mideast as the late Osama bin Laden: ?to remove American power and influence, including military forces, from Islamic lands.? The former CIA operative?s perspective affects her prescription for what the U.S. should do about the terror army ISIS, as she called for caution and restraint.

While there has been a sudden chorus of politicians and military experts calling for the immediate elimination of the terrorist army after it beheaded American journalist James Foley last week, Lopez believes the U.S. should have an overall strategy in place before fully re-engaging in the Mideast militarily.Any military action would be further complicated, she told WND, if it were not clear which side the U.S. is on, either in the short term or in the overall war on terror.

Lopez felt it was impossible to understand why the president and some of his top appointees, such as CIA Director John Brennan, who is believed to be a Muslim convert, ?consistently seem to apologize for Islam, even in the face of such atrocities as the Foley beheading,? adding, they ?take pains to assure the world they don?t think IS, (or the Islamic State, also called ISIS) or whichever perpetrator it was, has anything to do with Islam. How can they possibly believe that genuinely when everything these jihadis do tracks directly to the literal text of Quran, hadiths and Shariah??

?In any case, and for whatever motivations, there is no doubt this administration switched sides in what used to be called the Global War on Terror,? she said.

I wonder if those who don't want to go 'on the record' will finally speak out.









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[theking]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Alarmed at the anti-Russian hysteria sweeping Washington, and the specter of a new Cold War, U.S. intelligence veterans one of whom is none other than William Binney, the former senior NSA crypto-mathematician who back in March 2012 blew the whistle on the NSA's spying programs more than a year before Edward Snowden, took the unusual step of sending the following memo dated August 30 to German Chancellor Merkel challenging the reliability of Ukrainian and U.S. media claims about a Russian "invasion."

Full story http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...d-all-out-ukra

MEMORANDUM FOR: Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
SUBJECT: Ukraine and NATO

We the undersigned are longtime veterans of U.S. intelligence. We take the unusual step of writing this open letter to you to ensure that you have an opportunity to be briefed on our views prior to the NATO summit on September 4-5.

You need to know, for example, that accusations of a major Russian "invasion" of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the "intelligence" seems to be of the same dubious, politically "fixed" kind used 12 years ago to "justify" the U.S.-led attack on Iraq. We saw no credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq then; we see no credible evidence of a Russian invasion now. Twelve years ago, former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, mindful of the flimsiness of the evidence on Iraqi WMD, refused to join in the attack on Iraq. In our view, you should be appropriately suspicions of charges made by the US State Department and NATO officials alleging a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

President Barack Obama tried yesterday to cool the rhetoric of his own senior diplomats and the corporate media, when he publicly described recent activity in the Ukraine, as "a continuation of what?s been taking place for months now ? it?s not really a shift."

Obama, however, has only tenuous control over the policymakers in his administration ? who, sadly, lack much sense of history, know little of war, and substitute anti-Russian invective for a policy. One year ago, hawkish State Department officials and their friends in the media very nearly got Mr. Obama to launch a major attack on Syria based, once again, on "intelligence" that was dubious, at best.

Largely because of the growing prominence of, and apparent reliance on, intelligence we believe to be spurious, we think the possibility of hostilities escalating beyond the borders of Ukraine has increased significantly over the past several days. More important, we believe that this likelihood can be avoided, depending on the degree of judicious skepticism you and other European leaders bring to the NATO summit next week.

Continued http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...d-all-out-ukra

Pigshit.

[theking]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Since we're gonna run down this yellow brick road, then lets throw this one in the mix also!



http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-...emy-of-america


EX-CIA employee admits President Obama is a radical Islamic enemy of America
See also


August 28, 2014

It?s an explosive charge, one that practically accuses the president of treason.

Today, a former CIA agent bluntly told the newspaper, World Net Daily, that America has switched sides in the war on terror under President Obama. Clare Lopez was willing to say what a few members of Congress have said in private, but declined to say on-the-record.

Clare M. Lopez is the Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy and Senior Fellow at the London Center for Policy Research and the Canadian Meighen Institute and formerly with The Clarion Project . Since 2013, she has served as a member of the Citizens Commission on Benghazi. Also Vice President of the Intelligence Summit, she formerly was a career operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, a professor at the Centre for Counterintelligence and Security Studies, Executive Director of the Iran Policy Committee from 2005-2006, and has served as a consultant, intelligence analyst, and researcher for a variety of defense firms. She was named a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute in 2011.

Lopez said the global war on terror had been an effort to ?stay free of Shariah,? or repressive Islamic law, until the Obama administration began siding with such jihadist groups as the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates. Lopez believes that the Muslim Brotherhood has thoroughly infiltrated the Obama administration and other branches of the federal government. One of the most outrageous of those appointments is Mohamed Elibiary, a senior member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council. According to a report by the Center for Security Policy, Elibiary supports brokering a U.S. partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group. Two months ago, a firestorm erupted online after Elibiary tweeted that a ?Caliphate? is inevitable and compared it to the European Union.

Ms. Lopez also believes Obama had essentially the same goals in the Mideast as the late Osama bin Laden: ?to remove American power and influence, including military forces, from Islamic lands.? The former CIA operative?s perspective affects her prescription for what the U.S. should do about the terror army ISIS, as she called for caution and restraint.

While there has been a sudden chorus of politicians and military experts calling for the immediate elimination of the terrorist army after it beheaded American journalist James Foley last week, Lopez believes the U.S. should have an overall strategy in place before fully re-engaging in the Mideast militarily.Any military action would be further complicated, she told WND, if it were not clear which side the U.S. is on, either in the short term or in the overall war on terror.

Lopez felt it was impossible to understand why the president and some of his top appointees, such as CIA Director John Brennan, who is believed to be a Muslim convert, ?consistently seem to apologize for Islam, even in the face of such atrocities as the Foley beheading,? adding, they ?take pains to assure the world they don?t think IS, (or the Islamic State, also called ISIS) or whichever perpetrator it was, has anything to do with Islam. How can they possibly believe that genuinely when everything these jihadis do tracks directly to the literal text of Quran, hadiths and Shariah??

?In any case, and for whatever motivations, there is no doubt this administration switched sides in what used to be called the Global War on Terror,? she said.

I wonder if those who don't want to go 'on the record' will finally speak out.









.

And more pigshit.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

the story or the people?

[MaDalton]

what I will say is that Schröder (and Fischer, the minister for foreign affairs) were right about Iraq and (not only for that reason) I am proud that I voted for them.

[Captain Kawaii]

This was a great comment. Pretty sound and rational. Amazing the comparisons that can be made with some of the members even here and the notes of the commenter.


Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:52 | 5169684 sunaJ
sunaJ's picture

How un-patriotic of them! Sadly, you don't have to be an ex- or current NSA employee to see it. All it takes is a reasonable person to pay attention (I know, this is the problem) to the web of disinfo and it is obviously a shit show. As far as I can tell, here is where we are:

The Western political regime has been failing for a long time, and has maintained a constant "crisis-mode" in order to keep the facade up and the dissent down.

The financial fraud has long since engulfed the entire economic system of the west, to where now virtually every market is dominated by these fraudsters.

To placate the inattentive masses, the narratives (political, social and economic) must become more and more bizzare in order to maintain the look of "sanity."

The corporate press are so desperate to maintain the failed narratives and faux polarities that little or no truth is revealed by the former 4th estate.

Because of the ongoing narrative, people die every day - through murder, hardship and suicide - so that a few can benefit from this failed society.

The most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world is still serving this failed regime.



If you try to find reason or good social conscience in any of it, it will do nothing but make you mentally ill, because all it is there to do is to hide the truth and to cover the tracks of traitor elites that will destroy everyone rather than relinquish power. All of these tools and centralized powers will soon be turned upon Americans in true and all-out snake-eats-tail fashion.



Since I have let go of the otherwise meaningless narratives peddled on MSM and by gov talking heads, I really do see where much of it all fits together. What I'm saying is, there is much less cognitive dissonance when you realize that your society actually is caving in on itself. The best thing I can suggest if and when you come to these conclusions is to set long-term constructive goals that assume the above is true. Don't panic. Make goals. Here are some I came up with:

-become as self-reliant as possible, and as little reliant upon the gov as possible.

-without evangelizing it, always be prepared to help your loved ones understand it.

-have an emergency action plan (or plans) to cover a variety of contingencies.

-teach yourself as many skills and trades that would be important in a post-financial collapse world.

-network with your neighbors (face-to-face, not on FB, ffs).

-stay in shape.

-don't wallow in the sadness of a society that is destroying itself, or you will reflect it in one way or another (substance abuse, depression, etc).

[theking]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

This was a great comment. Pretty sound and rational. Amazing the comparisons that can be made with some of the members even here and the notes of the commenter.


Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:52 | 5169684 sunaJ
sunaJ's picture

How un-patriotic of them! Sadly, you don't have to be an ex- or current NSA employee to see it. All it takes is a reasonable person to pay attention (I know, this is the problem) to the web of disinfo and it is obviously a shit show. As far as I can tell, here is where we are:

The Western political regime has been failing for a long time, and has maintained a constant "crisis-mode" in order to keep the facade up and the dissent down.

The financial fraud has long since engulfed the entire economic system of the west, to where now virtually every market is dominated by these fraudsters.

To placate the inattentive masses, the narratives (political, social and economic) must become more and more bizzare in order to maintain the look of "sanity."

The corporate press are so desperate to maintain the failed narratives and faux polarities that little or no truth is revealed by the former 4th estate.

Because of the ongoing narrative, people die every day - through murder, hardship and suicide - so that a few can benefit from this failed society.

The most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world is still serving this failed regime.



If you try to find reason or good social conscience in any of it, it will do nothing but make you mentally ill, because all it is there to do is to hide the truth and to cover the tracks of traitor elites that will destroy everyone rather than relinquish power. All of these tools and centralized powers will soon be turned upon Americans in true and all-out snake-eats-tail fashion.



Since I have let go of the otherwise meaningless narratives peddled on MSM and by gov talking heads, I really do see where much of it all fits together. What I'm saying is, there is much less cognitive dissonance when you realize that your society actually is caving in on itself. The best thing I can suggest if and when you come to these conclusions is to set long-term constructive goals that assume the above is true. Don't panic. Make goals. Here are some I came up with:

-become as self-reliant as possible, and as little reliant upon the gov as possible.

-without evangelizing it, always be prepared to help your loved ones understand it.

-have an emergency action plan (or plans) to cover a variety of contingencies.

-teach yourself as many skills and trades that would be important in a post-financial collapse world.

-network with your neighbors (face-to-face, not on FB, ffs).

-stay in shape.

-don't wallow in the sadness of a society that is destroying itself, or you will reflect it in one way or another (substance abuse, depression, etc).

More pigshit babble.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

Originally Posted by theking

And more pigshit.

Originally Posted by theking

More pigshit babble.

Great dEbAtE skillz homie!

[wehateporn]

That's for sharing that Captain K

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

This was a great comment. Pretty sound and rational. Amazing the comparisons that can be made with some of the members even here and the notes of the commenter.


Mon, 09/01/2014 - 21:52 | 5169684 sunaJ
sunaJ's picture

How un-patriotic of them! Sadly, you don't have to be an ex- or current NSA employee to see it. All it takes is a reasonable person to pay attention (I know, this is the problem) to the web of disinfo and it is obviously a shit show. As far as I can tell, here is where we are:

The Western political regime has been failing for a long time, and has maintained a constant "crisis-mode" in order to keep the facade up and the dissent down.

The financial fraud has long since engulfed the entire economic system of the west, to where now virtually every market is dominated by these fraudsters.

To placate the inattentive masses, the narratives (political, social and economic) must become more and more bizzare in order to maintain the look of "sanity."

The corporate press are so desperate to maintain the failed narratives and faux polarities that little or no truth is revealed by the former 4th estate.

Because of the ongoing narrative, people die every day - through murder, hardship and suicide - so that a few can benefit from this failed society.

The most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world is still serving this failed regime.



If you try to find reason or good social conscience in any of it, it will do nothing but make you mentally ill, because all it is there to do is to hide the truth and to cover the tracks of traitor elites that will destroy everyone rather than relinquish power. All of these tools and centralized powers will soon be turned upon Americans in true and all-out snake-eats-tail fashion.



Since I have let go of the otherwise meaningless narratives peddled on MSM and by gov talking heads, I really do see where much of it all fits together. What I'm saying is, there is much less cognitive dissonance when you realize that your society actually is caving in on itself. The best thing I can suggest if and when you come to these conclusions is to set long-term constructive goals that assume the above is true. Don't panic. Make goals. Here are some I came up with:

-become as self-reliant as possible, and as little reliant upon the gov as possible.

-without evangelizing it, always be prepared to help your loved ones understand it.

-have an emergency action plan (or plans) to cover a variety of contingencies.

-teach yourself as many skills and trades that would be important in a post-financial collapse world.

-network with your neighbors (face-to-face, not on FB, ffs).

-stay in shape.

-don't wallow in the sadness of a society that is destroying itself, or you will reflect it in one way or another (substance abuse, depression, etc).

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great dEbAtE skillz homie!

We should put him on the Iraq border, point him towards IS and let him do his thing.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That's for sharing that Captain K

Sure. There are some fairly well reasoned responses there. It is clear if the original letter is real there is a lot Americans do not know about the real world outside McDonald's and Wal-Mart.

I bet defense contractors and central banks have permanent erections as they salivate anticipating profit.

[theking]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great dEbAtE skillz homie!

I don't have the desire to debate what is nonsensical/pigshit...thank you very much.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

We should put him on the Iraq border, point him towards IS and let him do his thing.

Been there and done that in '91...sport.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Since we're gonna run down this yellow brick road, then lets throw this one in the mix also!

Let's the WWW3 begin. This world needs to be purified (too many useless idiots)





I really believe that we are not the first generation of humans on this planet. I believe it already happened in the past and perhaps not just once...

The humanity was created to kill itself. Read the Bible

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That's for sharing that Captain K

Two retards on the same retarded page.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by theking

Been there and done that in '91...sport.

Is that when you sustained your mind numbing, debilitating injury?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I really believe that we are not the first generation of humans on this planet. I believe it already happened in the past and perhaps not just once...

Agreed, there will have been all kinds of societies that had to be wiped out for one reason or another, perhaps each is an experiment

[theking]

Originally Posted by DWB

Is that when you sustained your mind numbing, debilitating injury?

Yes...then I was medically discharged in '92.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by theking

Been there and done that in '91...sport.

Now things make sense. Well, thanks for serving. I guess. Seems like your body is paying for it now.

[Captain Kawaii]

Your next website should be called Mutt's Mutts - Oh, wait. You already have 2 like that!
You the King of Buffugly!!!

Originally Posted by Mutt

Two retards on the same retarded page.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Great dEbAtE skillz homie!

I concur , pigshit it is

[Kolargol]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

what I will say is that Schröder (and Fischer, the minister for foreign affairs) were right about Iraq and (not only for that reason) I am proud that I voted for them.

Is he also right about Putin now, his new employer?