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07-20-2014, 03:43 AM | #1 |
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How can the Ukrainian government be so incompetent?
They have almost 60,000 ground forces in their army. How is an army of 60,000 not capable of securing the plane crash site? and not capable of killing off a bunch of rebels ?
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They can't do it Putin style (shooting all rebels and civilans around them) because public opinion would crucify them.
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they are not controlling army,normal people don't want to shoot to own citizens. Those who attack are mostly nazis and mercenaries. Also, army is in bad condition, no food. Just wait to see incoming winter.
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There are probably a bunch of reasons. Lack of fighting will, lack of equipment and supplies, incompetence, restricted measures because of cilivian population, and because the rebels have fighting will as well as equipment and supplies. How the USA hasn't been able to kill bunch of rebels in the past wars, tell me that? It's not that easy.
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The Ukrainian army is not a war trained well disciplined army. Ukraine's army is domestically defensive but could be crushed in days by a real expeditionary army like Russia's ... For instance; the Russian army is experienced in dealing with separatists in the Chechen Republic, NATO forces have experience in Kosovo in civil warfare tactics. |
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Here the parents try to block the attempt of sending the Ukrainian solders to the wars zones: You simple don't understand what Ukrainian army is. Have you seen any reports from African war-zones? Ukraine is a small Africa in the center of the Europe. Total poorness, demoralized army, AIDS, drug addiction, prostitution, corruption, murders etc... If you could be able to read Russian and Ukrainian languages, you would dig a lot of the information from the first hand from both sides of the conflict (Northwest and Southeast of the country). The internet is everywhere and soldiers post their reports to the social networks with images and shocking details.
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Kid, you have no idea on the things you are talking about. Even Google knows it better: https://www.google.com/search?q=
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P.S. Since you know shit, stop posting your nonsense and shout the fuck up already.
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A very good video for those who forgot about Soviet tanks in Prague (1968). The Southeast of the Ukraine has its own "Prague Spring" where the civilians are stopping the army tanks entering their cities.
We live in 21th century and there is the Internet, so it's impossible to hide the truth. P.S. A note for OPP (Obama Propaganda Patrol): yeah, clowns blame Russia.
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Soldiers complaining about food is not starving, that's eternal issue as army's cooks usually lack the Michelin stars and the rations are not designed to make your ass fat. |
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As I said above, the Internet is available everywhere and it's just impossible to hide the truth.
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Of course it is good stuff for propaganda. Both sides can post pictures about crying widows and make a heart reaping story about adversary's cruelty. |
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Separatists don't need much support to operate, they just need "not much resistance", especially armed resistance. For example Hitler took his "separatist" forces to Austria and joined it to Germany after "a fair" election. And in Africa there is plenty of armed groups, they don't need local support to operate, just guns. |
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and were you also not surprised when Yanukovich throw armed police to the protesters in Kiev, in last weeks of the manifestations ? or maybe it was his "terrible act" ? :-) |
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what do u expect from THE ukraine
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I don't know about last weeks manifestations or armed police. Usually not the kindest act, but usually police is armed nowadays, if I have to pay attention to that detail. |
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Perhaps so, because I'm really tired to read all those clueless posts from the GFY "experts". In fact I'm the most anti-Putin Russian guy you know about. Furthermore, I never sympathized to the Ukrainian separatists and to those who support them, but even I feel irritated when you guys starting all that bullshit about "Moscow hand", "Putin propaganda patrol" etc. Grow up already.
Putin is not an angel and I believe he is a worst possible evil for my country, but even he is unable to control the situation on the Ukraine. As about the Ukrainian "army", so it's a bunch of poor, uncontrollable and demoralized clowns with guns. They kill civilians left and right, so they are the same terrorists to me, as the Ukrainian separatists.
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It's very easy to say "why haven't they secured the crash site". However, the crash site is well within rebel held territory so it's not just a matter of "showing up". First they would have to get to the site, fighting along the way, and then once they secured the site they would have to protect a rather long supply line - people and supplies would have to be transported to and from the crash site, and that supply line would be long and would need to be secured and protected....
So it's not a matter of securing twenty square miles, but also a sixty to one hundred mile long supply line.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC8MTP2Ekbc i believe only RT ran this..
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I was talking about "Maidan" protesters from February. some of them were armed and they were storming government buildings in Kiev...and many other cities
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there is something similar in history:
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so they were here:
- for the civilians but they didn't crush him - with anti tank canons personally i would more use this kind of gun mounted on a tank: http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/la...2004-12-03.jpg http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imageR...=1&w=280&h=280 |
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but they didn't crush him...
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I'm not a racist so the skin color doesn't make a difference to me
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananm...989#Death_toll
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You guys shoe hammer it out in my official throw down thread.
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Malaysian PM Najib Razak's statement. Looks like he does not trust in the Ukr. gov. and personally made deal with Borodai (rebel leader).
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why ? this is just pacific bullshit: to convince us that if you are ready to give your life, your oppressor can't do something against you. This is just crap.
They didn't dare to crush him, but in our countries, what happened in tianamen continues to be a symbol of oppression. Does it really matter if they crush him or not ? There is anyway 1000 deaths, according to wikipedia. Was it better if he died from an isrealian bomb, instead ? This is non sense and if it is non sense, it's propaganda. |