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Old 09-18-2014, 02:42 AM   #1
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Everything can be explained in life, except, Why am I me?

I have, like most of us, a solid explanation and reason of why things are. Some of us have religious explanations, and some have scientific explanations.

As an intelligent human being not encumbered by religion, I understand both sides, but one thing still remains....

Why am I here inside my body?

I understand why all of you are here, but why am I here inside this body?

Neither science nor religion can definitely explain that simple question.

My only fear in life is not knowing the answer when I die.

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My only fear in life is not knowing the answer when I die.
Irrational fear - first you may die suddenly, no time to contemplate anything, secondly if you do have the knowledge of your demise and time to contemplate it I really doubt you'll be asking 'Why am I here in this body?'.

I guess you're saying that you live with this fear and you hope by the time you die you have an answer for it. Um ... good luck with that.

Solipsism may be for you - Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist.

Why are you you? No reason other than the genetic blueprint we each are born with, 'you' are your brain interacting with the world around you. Everything you believe yourself to be can change just with a physical change to parts of your brain such as a tumor or lesion. A high functioning brilliant person can wake up one day out of the blue and the world goes dark for them with clinical depression. They are no longer the same person, they don't laugh, they barely function. Same person but they are no longer the person they thought of themselves as.
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Why is sun in a suns body? Why is moon in a moons body? Why is pencil in pencils body? Why is my dog in my dogs body? Pretty "strange" question.
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Descartes had it all bass ackwards

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You are you because your mother is a whore.

In fact.... I am me because my father was a huge freaking pervert. He was married, banging one chick, and was picking up my mother at the same time. My mother was, um, a bit younger when they first started dating. I think she was 16 and my father was 34.

Otherwise, I don't think much about such questions. No sense asking questions you will never get the answers to.
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I have, like most of us, a solid explanation and reason of why things are. Some of us have religious explanations, and some have scientific explanations.

As an intelligent human being not encumbered by religion, I understand both sides, but one thing still remains....

Why am I here inside my body?

I understand why all of you are here, but why am I here inside this body?

Neither science nor religion can definitely explain that simple question.

My only fear in life is not knowing the answer when I die.
The answer is simple: Your body is a vessel and you are a being of different derivative living within that vessel.

Whether that's soul, another form of life we yet don't understand (maybe that's the same thing?) or your consciousness is part of a collective conscious that is all life itself, divided amongst beings and each awareness is aware individually per vessel.. who knows..
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Irrational fear - first you may die suddenly, no time to contemplate anything, secondly if you do have the knowledge of your demise and time to contemplate it I really doubt you'll be asking 'Why am I here in this body?'.

I guess you're saying that you live with this fear and you hope by the time you die you have an answer for it. Um ... good luck with that.

Solipsism may be for you - Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist.

Why are you you? No reason other than the genetic blueprint we each are born with, 'you' are your brain interacting with the world around you. Everything you believe yourself to be can change just with a physical change to parts of your brain such as a tumor or lesion. A high functioning brilliant person can wake up one day out of the blue and the world goes dark for them with clinical depression. They are no longer the same person, they don't laugh, they barely function. Same person but they are no longer the person they thought of themselves as.
That oft makes me wonder, is the dna the "soul" then? Things we do today, affect how future generations behave. (Sins of the father passed onto the sons)

Our experiences reprogram the dna over time. A perfect example is my Dad. We hardly know each other but years later we began to talk and see each other, we both learned we have the same jokes, same humor and same way of saying and doing things. Which should not be possible as I have only seen him 5 times in my life prior to that and grew up totally different.
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Where do you think you should be if not in your own body?
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Why did I roll a 3 instead of a 6? I guess it would only be random if we are a bunch of souls waiting for bodies. Every possible outcome is available at the same time. Currently explained as parallel universe.

More likely it is passed on from direct ancestors. But then you can't trace it back to the source. What made the source organism(s) "themselves"? Currently explained as evolution.



Everything you think you are is created in your brain. I don't think you could have the same consciousnesses inside of a different body. Am I trippin or is that clear enough?
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That oft makes me wonder, is the dna the "soul" then? Things we do today, affect how future generations behave. (Sins of the father passed onto the sons)

Our experiences reprogram the dna over time. A perfect example is my Dad. We hardly know each other but years later we began to talk and see each other, we both learned we have the same jokes, same humor and same way of saying and doing things. Which should not be possible as I have only seen him 5 times in my life prior to that and grew up totally different.
Welcome to the world of epigenetics.

It does appear that the experiences and personalities of our ancestors can be passed on to future generations. There was a study done on rats, the study exposed the rats to a particular scent, every time they exposed the rats to the scent they punished the rats in some way, like Pavlov's dogs the rats became conditioned to the particular scent becoming nervous wrecks whenever they smelled the scent.
They then took the offspring of these rats, children and grandchildren of the rats and exposed them to the same scent, a scent they had obviously never smelled before and what do you know - they freaked out the same way their ancestors did.

So they now do think that it's possible that psychological trauma from your ancestors can be passed on to future generations. Freud would blame your mother and father but it just may be a great great grandparent's legacy passed on to you.

If I remember correctly it's not the DNA, it's the RNA in cells, the RNA contains the instructions which tell the DNA what to do. It's opened up a whole new direction in research, scientists have long believed that lots of traits and illnesses have a strong genetic influence but didn't understand how.
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I have, like most of us, a solid explanation and reason of why things are. Some of us have religious explanations, and some have scientific explanations.

As an intelligent human being not encumbered by religion, I understand both sides, but one thing still remains....

Why am I here inside my body?

I understand why all of you are here, but why am I here inside this body?

Neither science nor religion can definitely explain that simple question.

My only fear in life is not knowing the answer when I die.
Answer:

To overcome the fear of not knowing why you are there, inside your body, when you die.

You chose to live inside that body and experience the fear of not knowing why you chose that.

You free yourself to other experiences when you accept your choice and make another choice not to need to know, but rather accept the gift of life you're choosing to experience inside that body.

Best to face that fear now and have a joyful experience at death rather then a stressful one.




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Best to face that fear now and have a joyful experience at death rather then a stressful one.
I don't know if you've been present at anybody's death but I've seen 3 die and there was no joy - perhaps you've watched too many tear jerker movies or read some new-agey bullshit about near death experiences.
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Way too deep a question for a Friday. Monday is no good either. But TUESDAY... I might have some insight on a day like Tuesday. :D

I will say this though, that "simple question" as you call it isn't simple at all. (as is evident from all the amusing posts in here)
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The purpose of life is to experience life, each of us is unique and will encounter different experiences everyday, these create interactions, and conflicts. And they are what shape up our societies. Every one of us is particle in all these complicated interactions, some of us create much more impacts and some of us create much less, but no matter what we do, someone would get affected and thats what shape a cycle of life. Life starts off like a piece of blank white paper, as time goes by, whatever land on it will leave a mark on it, and theres a life span of this piece of paper, some are thicker, some are thinner, some have bigger dimension, some are flat some are crumbles, wait till the paper is all filled up, the paper is flamed and turned into ash, Then u start a new piece of white paper again.
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I have, like most of us, a solid explanation and reason of why things are. Some of us have religious explanations, and some have scientific explanations.

As an intelligent human being not encumbered by religion, I understand both sides, but one thing still remains....

Why am I here inside my body?

I understand why all of you are here, but why am I here inside this body?

Neither science nor religion can definitely explain that simple question.

My only fear in life is not knowing the answer when I die.
Simple "You are you.... Because everybody else was taken!!"
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Yes many. At 18 I started working at a Sacramento nursing home while I went to school. I was there for about two years.

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perhaps you've watched too many tear jerker movies or read some new-agey bullshit about near death experiences.
See above. I could share many stories and experiences but somehow I feel they'd be lost on you.

EDIT: I'll give you insight to ease your mind of your unjoyful death experiences. A painful death is like a painful childbirth.

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EDIT: I'll give you insight to ease your mind of your unjoyful death experiences. A painful death is like a painful childbirth.
And you know this how?

I've been in long term care facilities and there is no joy - shells of human beings, many crying to go home or to die while most have lost their minds and just exist. I'd put a needle in all of them if euthanasia was legal - and it will be one day. There is a huge generation of Baby Boomers advancing towards old age and I expect the debate over end of life choices to become very front and center.

Birth is the beginning to a life - death as far as we know and likely will even know is the end, nothingness, oblivion.
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I've been in long term care facilities and there is no joy - shells of human beings, many crying to go home or to die while most have lost their minds and just exist. I'd put a needle in all of them if euthanasia was legal - and it will be one day. There is a huge generation of Baby Boomers advancing towards old age and I expect the debate over end of life choices to become very front and center.

Birth is the beginning to a life - death as far as we know and likely will even know is the end, nothingness, oblivion.
I could share many stories and experiences with you, but at this point in time, I feel they'd be lost on you. It's great you took something away from your experiences and feel you have a good beat on end of life. Thankfully you're still alive and have the ability to acquire even more in depth experiences and evolve your perception. It's never to late









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You might try to think of your mind & body, your personality as of a game character with specific settings, skills and perks.
The question is, where and what is the player, can you feel connection with him(it)?
If you could, then you probably wouldn't be that confused...
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I could share many stories and experiences with you, but at this point in time, I feel they'd be lost on you. It's great you took something away from your experiences and feel you have a good beat on end of life. Thankfully you're still alive and have the ability to acquire even more in depth experiences and evolve your perception. It's never to late
Dude, promise us that when you get to the other side you'll let us know that you made it.

About perception - what do you perceive death to be? No metaphysical bullshit, describe what death and whatever else comes next is in physical terms please.







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Houdini supposedly made that promise to his wife before he died. He made up a secret word (or phrase) so she'd know it was him.

She went to her grave not hearing from him.
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Houdini supposedly made that promise to his wife before he died. He made up a secret word (or phrase) so she'd know it was him.

She went to her grave not hearing from him.
She should have meditated into the spirit realm. Or maybe spirit (energy) is only inside you while you're alive. You know, because you're using solar and organic energy to create your own energy to live.

Does your "soul" cease to exist after death? Surely, if we started with x amount of humans and now we have 7 billion humans we can't all be the same old recycled souls. Where are these new consciousnesses coming from to fill all the new bodies? Are they merely a product of environment and genetics? Does any other part of your body (besides your brain) have influence on your consciousness? Do other species think like humans? Why do humans need to know everything? What benefit is there to knowing these answers?

All plants and animals eventually turn back into the organic material of which they were composed. Therefore, you could technically be born again as someone else. But would you have the same consciousness you had in your first life?
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:41 PM   #41
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All plants and animals eventually turn back into the organic material of which they were composed. Therefore, you could technically be born again as someone else. But would you have the same consciousness you had in your first life?
Phil Collins believes he's the reincarnation of Davy Crockett.

(look it up...lol)
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The full story of how Collins came to believe in his reincarnation has never been told before. Gary Foreman, a fellow Alamo enthusiast, recalled the moment that his wife Carolyn ?revealed? Phil?s former life as Texan courier John W Smith, a man who was know as El Colorado ? the redhead ? because of his hair.

Foreman said his wife called Collins over and shared her conviction with him. ?When she made the revelation to Phil, his face lit up. His reaction was he felt very much at home at the Alamo and now it made sense.?

It?s a highly unusual and extrahaordinary story. It all started, according to Collins, when he was a young boy. He?s said in interviews he would watch transfixed as the actor Fess Parker portrayed king of the wild frontier Davy Crockett in the Disney TV series of the same name.

Collins says: ?It was on every week. It just got me, and never left me.? He would ask his parents to buy him raccoon-skin hats and toy rifles as birthday presents.


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Maybe you are the person your brain has created beliving its the best way for your body to exist?
The brain has been influenced geneticaly by chemicals and by things you have experienced?

Or maybe god, allah or some other alien have created you as an experiment
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Or maybe god, allah or some other alien have created you as an experiment
Almost right - except we created god as an experiment.
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Almost right - except we created god as an experiment.
Yes, thats true!
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The purpose of life is to experience life, each of us is unique and will encounter different experiences everyday, these create interactions, and conflicts. And they are what shape up our societies. Every one of us is particle in all these complicated interactions, some of us create much more impacts and some of us create much less, but no matter what we do, someone would get affected and thats what shape a cycle of life. Life starts off like a piece of blank white paper, as time goes by, whatever land on it will leave a mark on it, and theres a life span of this piece of paper, some are thicker, some are thinner, some have bigger dimension, some are flat some are crumbles, wait till the paper is all filled up, the paper is flamed and turned into ash, Then u start a new piece of white paper again.
Sounds like tiramisu.
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You should crawl back into your mommy's vagina and cook for a while longer. Then the answer will magically appear.
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Well,

In case of your question, you should go to Statistics or the Theory of Probability.

It is very improbable that you to be you.. but it is very probable that somebody is you ;)

The same as in lottery. Very improbable that you will hit the jackpot two time in your life, but more probable that someone will ;)
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You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next – and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

Some persons seem to like you, and others seem to hate you, and you must wonder why. They are simply liking machines and hating machines.

You are pooped and demoralized… Why wouldn’t you be? Of course it is exhausting, having to reason all the time in a universe which wasn’t meant to be reasonable.

…You are surrounded by loving machines, hating machines, greedy machines, unselfish machines, brave machines, cowardly machines, truthful machines, lying machines, funny machines, solemn machines… Their only purpose is to stir you up in every conceivable way, so the Creator of the Universe can watch your reactions. They can no more feel or reason than grandfather clocks.

The Creator of the Universe would now like to apologize not only for the capricious, jostling companionship he provided during the test, but for the trashy, stinking condition of the planet itself. The Creator programmed robots to abuse it for millions of years, so it would be a poisonous, festering cheese when you got here. Also, he made sure it would be desperately crowded by programming robots, regardless of their living conditions, to crave sexual intercourse and adore infants more than almost anything.

He also programmed robots to write books and magazines and newspapers for you, and television and radio shows, and stage shows, and films. They wrote songs for you. The Creator of the Universe had them invent hundreds of religions, so you would have plenty to choose among. He had them kill each other by the millions, for this purpose only: that you be amazed. They have committed every possible atrocity and every possible kindness unfeelingly, automatically, inevitably, to get a reaction from Y-O-U.”
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