9/11 conspiracy theorists unite

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Where would they go then!! Straight up??

Jesus christ! Can one of you nutters just tell me where that fucking building is supposed to go when it collapses? Is it that fucking difficult to answer?

Read:

wouldn't go straight down. That's what was weird about all three buildings that day - vertical descents, no toppling, no assymetry, just plunges...

Key words: "straight" down? Vertical "descents"? "Asymmetry"?

In other words, maybe one of the only three buildings ever to collapse from fire in the history of steel skyscraper construction could go straight down like a demolition against all odds. But three? Impossible.

If such collapses were possible - they would go down non-symmetrically, topple, crash sideways, tilt... not drop straight down.

IF pancaking weren't already discounted, by NIST most notably, then they shouldn't have crumbled completely down to their base - they would have stopped at some point and left a huge stack of concrete floors, not pulverized dust and match-stick piles of steel beams.

:D

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

So what really happened? Was it a controlled demolition or did "orbs" fly into the buildings? If it was done by the government, what was the motive? To invade Iraq? Everybody has all this "evidence" of a government conspiracy, but none of it leads to a conclusion. kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

Surely one of the 100's of government and military personnel it would have taken to pull something like this off would have leaked evidence or come forward in some way. Maybe Wikileaks cables or anonymous hackers will uncover the truth soon?

I, simply pointed out that media wackos were forced to call an orb 'the plane'. That simple fact, raises reasonable doubt about the official 911 myth. Controlled demo is far more complicated and has plenty of room for debate and spin. The weird object is the just that, a weird orb with no wings or propeller.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Maybe Wikileaks cables or anonymous hackers will uncover the truth soon?

good point. some minor diplomatic brouhaha can't be concealed nowadays, but there is not one hint of a conspiracy that needed the coordinated efforts of hundreds if not thousands from all sectors of society in the data dumps and leaks.

to believe in 9/11 conspiracies in this day and age is about the same as believing in the easter bunny or jesus.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

So what really happened? Was it a controlled demolition or did "orbs" fly into the buildings?

Controlled Demolition

Originally Posted by Shotsie

If it was done by the government, what was the motive? To invade Iraq?

The Globalist Bankers and their Shadow Government. It was to commence The War on Terror i.e. a war on the Middle East and on the rights and freedom of Westerners

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Everybody has all this "evidence" of a government conspiracy, but none of it leads to a conclusion. kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

This is a thread that's just debating the basics as to if the official story is true or not, the conclusion is actually very complex and would require much reading, but not in threads like this. Kennedy was about to get rid of the Federal Reserve and he was keen to stop Israel's nuclear program; Hollywood deliberately try to confuse people.

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Surely one of the 100's of government and military personnel it would have taken to pull something like this off would have leaked evidence or come forward in some way.

The Shadow Government are not as careless as our own governments. The Bankers who they work for are ruthless. Every now and then there's a weak link, like when Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo (RIP) about 9/11 and the Globalist Agenda.

Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Not to mention all these radio and TV executives and reporters that were supposedly ordered to go along with the cover-up, right?

There are certain laws that come in to effect during 'attacks' like 9/11. It can be difficult to report what you actually believe.

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Maybe Wikileaks cables or anonymous hackers will uncover the truth soon?

Wikileaks is actually a tentacle of the House of Rothschild (via their agent Soros), it's their tool for taking out powerful people who they don't have full control of.

[Shotsie]

^^^:1orgla ughHoly shit, dude, you're fucking insane!

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Vjo

yeah maybe you all saved me from becoming the next Hinckley or something. lol

My faith in humanity is slightly restored. I am open minded.

it's an intellectual dead end. look at the people who obsess about this stuff. you would progress your intellectual development more studying phrenology instead.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Rochard is with the CIA...

Anything is possible. It's not like I wasn't in the military.

Originally Posted by Vjo

I like Media Guy tho and rebels are fun...

Media Guy and I debate on the boards about this, and we both believe what we believe, but secretly we still chat on ICQ and I still consider him a friend.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Well in theory evenif these types of structures could collapse due to fires, they wouldn't go straight down. That's what was weird about all three buildings that day - vertical descents, no toppling, no assymetry, just plunges...

The towers fell because the floors pancaked onto each other. The floors fell down; The floors didn't tip over. The building collapsed into itself.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

So what really happened? Was it a controlled demolition or did "orbs" fly into the buildings? If it was done by the government, what was the motive? To invade Iraq? Everybody has all this "evidence" of a government conspiracy, but none of it leads to a conclusion. kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

Surely one of the 100's of government and military personnel it would have taken to pull something like this off would have leaked evidence or come forward in some way. Not to mention all these radio and TV executives and reporters that were supposedly ordered to go along with the cover-up, right? Maybe Wikileaks cables or anonymous hackers will uncover the truth soon?

Your asking the right questions...

1) Why? No one can give me a good reason. There's no fucking oil in Afghanistan, and the potential pipeline they talk about STILL hasn't been built. No one wanted to invade Afghanistan.

2) Where are the people that did this? Somewhere along the line if the planes were controlled by remote control and the towers taken down by demolition, there would have to be dozens involved. Let's just say the planes were remotely controlled - Are you saying the plane took off with no pilots? Who flew the planes by remote control? Who installed that hardware? Who wired up the towers with explosives? That must have been a massive job that would have taken weeks and attracted a lot notice... One would think that just ONE of these people would come forward and be a national hero for the rest of his life.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The towers fell because the floors pancaked onto each other. The floors fell down; The floors didn't tip over. The building collapsed into itself.

impossible to debate any of these types. if you counteract any of their claims with an explanation, they don't acknowledge it but just move on to half a dozen other unrelated "anomalies." that is their method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

of course you can't also debate with someone who is suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. as seeing what is clearly a plane as something other.

[Dirty F]

A group of people attached bombs to every floor of a huge, crowded building. A huge fucking plane flew into the tower. Damaged i don't know how much floors. BUT didn't damage the bombs, not the wires connecting them all together. And then from somewhere outside someone was able to let the first bomb explode directly beneath the floor where the plane entered.
Yes, that makes so much sense. That must be the solution. Because that is way more likely than a building collapsing because of massive damage.


The fantasyworld of the average conspiracy nut.

[Dirty F]

The most insane, ridiculous, near impossible things are the most likely in their fucked up little fantasy world.
And a huge plane that takes down a building because of massive damage and fire, that's impossible according to them.

The stupidity...it's just neverending

[Dirty F]

Ors, ufo's, remote controled planes, missiles, 1000's of people involved, the media involved etc etc. It is no problem whatsoever to the truther. Think of the most ridiculous conspiracy and the truther will call it plausible. But a bunch of jihadmuslims hijacking a plane and flying it into a tower which results in a collapse of that tower. No, that's impossible. That is 100% impossible to these people.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

1) Why? No one can give me a good reason. There's no fucking oil in Afghanistan, and the potential pipeline they talk about STILL hasn't been built. No one wanted to invade Afghanistan.

Ironically, due to the war, companies that were supposed to build oil and gas pipelines through the region gave up on the idea. I guess the conspiracy isn't working out as planned.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your asking the right questions...

1) Why? No one can give me a good reason. There's no fucking oil in Afghanistan, and the potential pipeline they talk about STILL hasn't been built. No one wanted to invade Afghanistan.

"In 2010, US and Afghan government officials estimated that untapped mineral deposits located in 2007 by the US Geological Survey are worth between $900 bn and $3 trillion"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan

It also makes attacking Iran a lot easier

[WarChild]

Please don't entertain morons like johnny and wehateporn anymore. It's really just a huge waste of your time and can do nothing but drag you down to their level.

[BFT3K]

Like most of us, I don't know one way or the other what REALLY happened, or more importantly, WHY, but just for shits and giggles, what can an organized group of people do for just a mere 4.6 BILLION DOLLAR$?

I've heard of plenty of stories about people who intentionally torch their own properties, cars, or businesses just to get out from under the debt, or more nefariously, to profit from insurance fraud. Sometimes an innocent person or two may die in such a plot, but they happen every single day.

Now let's pretend you stand to get out from under a bad investment PLUS pocket $4.6 BILLION in insurance money - what do you consider "impossible" ?

4.6 BILLION DOLLARS - $4,600,000,000.00

That's one big fucking lottery payout. This guy must be the luckiest man on Earth...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...lverstein.html

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

4.6 BILLION DOLLARS - $4,600,000,000.00

That's one big fucking lottery payout. This guy must be the luckiest man on Earth...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...lverstein.html

yeah it's totally impossible to believe that someone would insure a massive real estate investment. a total smoking gun right there.

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by porno jew

impossible to debate any of these types. if you counteract any of their claims with an explanation, they don't acknowledge it but just move on to half a dozen other unrelated "anomalies." that is their method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

of course you can't also debate with someone who is suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. as seeing what is clearly a plane as something other.

It's impossible for you to debate against facts, so you ignore them. You can't counteract any of your claims with evidence because you have only fake evidence. You don't acknowledge facts, but move on to a half dozen things that have nothing to do with those facts that you must dodge." That is your method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

Of course you can't debate because you are suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. As is proven by your inability to prove that an orb is anything other than an orb.

[porno jew]

so you try and counteract me with a gif of what is clearly a plane, that anyone who is not mentally ill will see as a plane.

discussing anything with you is as logical as debating string theory with a retard eating ice cream and wetting his pants in the middle of the food court.

[porno jew]

you are fucking insane. take your meds and stop harassing people in public.

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

No, here's what happened:

19 radical muslims who hate our freedom and can't fly planes simultaneously hijacked four different airplanes, stood down NORAD, hit three of their four targets, and took down 3 buildings with 2 planes...all while not even being on the flight lists while conspiring with a bearded man in a cave.

here's what happened:

19 radical muslims who hate our freedoms, four of whom supposedly flew the planes but couldn't even fly a kite. They didn't fly planes simultaneously or hijack shit and didn't bat 875. That's would be 7-8. four different airplanes, stood down NORAD, hit three of their four targets, and took down 3 buildings with 2 planes...all while not even being on the flight lists while conspiring with a bearded man in a cave, with no laptop.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

"In 2010, US and Afghan government officials estimated that untapped mineral deposits located in 2007 by the US Geological Survey are worth between $900 bn and $3 trillion"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan

It also makes attacking Iran a lot easier

Although the U.S. government has spent more than $940 billion on the conflict in Afghanistan since 2001, a treasure trove of mineral deposits, including vast quantities of industrial metals such as lithium, gold, cobalt, copper and iron, are likely to wind up going to Russia and China instead of American firms.

In December, 2007, China's state-owned China Metallurgical Group Corp. (MCC) signed a $2.9 billion agreement with the Kabul government to extract copper from the Aynak deposit, one of the world's largest unexploited copper deposits with an estimated 240 million tons of ore.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/06/...ineral-mining/

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by porno jew

so you try and counteract me with a gif of what is clearly a plane, that anyone who is not mentally ill will see as a plane.

discussing anything with you is as logical as debating string theory with a retard eating ice cream and wetting his pants in the middle of the food court.

so you try and counteract the facts with a gif of what is clearly a boeing, that anyone who is not mentally ill will see is a plane. There isn't one.

discussing anything with you is as logical as debating string theory with a retard eating ice cream and wetting his pants in the middle of the food court. You are talking to yourself, you fool.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RRACY

It's impossible for you to debate against facts, so you ignore them. You can't counteract any of your claims with evidence because you have only fake evidence. You don't acknowledge facts, but move on to a half dozen things that have nothing to do with those facts that you must dodge." That is your method of argumentation as witnessed in this thread.

Of course you can't debate because you are suffering from visual schizophrenic hallucinations. As is proven by your inability to prove that an orb is anything other than an orb.

Looks like an airplane to me.

Could you make it a little bit more fuzzy? Yeah, that would help.

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Looks like an airplane to me.

Could you make it a little bit more fuzzy? Yeah, that would help.

Then post a real plane next to it, if you think so.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RRACY

here's what happened:

19 radical muslims who hate our freedoms, four of whom supposedly flew the planes but couldn't even fly a kite. They didn't fly planes simultaneously or hijack shit and didn't bat 875. That's would be 7-8. four different airplanes, stood down NORAD, hit three of their four targets, and took down 3 buildings with 2 planes...all while not even being on the flight lists while conspiring with a bearded man in a cave, with no laptop.

My kid can fly a fucking airplane. Does it all the time on Flight Sim. With a small amount of flight training, anyone can fly a plane into a building. Might not be able to land or take off, but anyone can hit a tall building.

NORAD didn't stand down. NORAD didn't even get the call until it was too late.

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Looks like an airplane to me.

Could you make it a little bit more fuzzy? Yeah, that would help.

Did flight 175 circle the towers in its final seconds? Did a 500 mph jet circle the towers before impacting the southeast corner of tower 2? Because that's what much of the fake footage shows.

[porno jew]

listen retard, if everyone sees a plane but you, what does that say about your mental state?

Originally Posted by RRACY

so you try and counteract the facts with a gif of what is clearly a boeing, that anyone who is not mentally ill will see is a plane. There isn't one.

discussing anything with you is as logical as debating string theory with a retard eating ice cream and wetting his pants in the middle of the food court. You are talking to yourself, you fool.

[RRACY]

Originally Posted by porno jew

listen retard, if everyone sees a plane but you, what does that say about your mental state?

Listen retard, the news anchors who saw it live either didn't see it, or mistook for a chopper, and only called it a plane afterward. There's no possibility it could be a plane or chopper.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

Although the U.S. government has spent more than $940 billion on the conflict in Afghanistan since 2001, a treasure trove of mineral deposits, including vast quantities of industrial metals such as lithium, gold, cobalt, copper and iron, are likely to wind up going to Russia and China instead of American firms.

In December, 2007, China's state-owned China Metallurgical Group Corp. (MCC) signed a $2.9 billion agreement with the Kabul government to extract copper from the Aynak deposit, one of the world's largest unexploited copper deposits with an estimated 240 million tons of ore.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/06/...ineral-mining/

A complete cock up indeed, China were never meant to get their hands on this. If China get a contract we're told it's bribes and corruption, then ministers are replaced with ones who will give future contracts to Western firms. Chinese firms are clearly unacceptable buyers

"The corruption that is already rampant in the Karzai government could also be amplified by the new wealth, particularly if a handful of well-connected oligarchs, some with personal ties to the president, gain control of the resources. Just last year, Afghanistan’s minister of mines was accused by American officials of accepting a $30 million bribe to award China the rights to develop its copper mine. The minister has since been replaced. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/wo...ewanted=1&_r=1

[BFT3K]

Who knows... who knows.... ?????



https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ds2jylj37aA

Lots of oddities. Plenty of coincidences.

Very strange indeed.

[BFT3K]

Definition of a Conspiracy Theorist = Someone who questions the information presented by confirmed liars.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

A complete cock up indeed, China were never meant to get their hands on this. If China get a contract we're told it's bribes and corruption, then ministers are replaced with ones who will give future contracts to Western firms. Chinese firms are clearly unacceptable buyers

The mineral deposits weren't discovered until 2007, though, We invaded Afghanistan in 2001. Here's another quote from that same article:

In 2004, American geologists, sent to Afghanistan as part of a broader reconstruction effort, stumbled across an intriguing series of old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey in Kabul that hinted at major mineral deposits in the country. They soon learned that the data had been collected by Soviet mining experts during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but cast aside when the Soviets withdrew in 1989.

During the chaos of the 1990s, when Afghanistan was mired in civil war and later ruled by the Taliban, a small group of Afghan geologists protected the charts by taking them home, and returned them to the Geological Survey?s library only after the American invasion and the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.

[Shotsie]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So there isn't a possibility they knew about them then and, ugh, didn't tell the unwashed masses aka the public?

I'm quoting the article that he posted. Either the article is truthful or it isn't. You can't use one piece of it to support your point and dismiss the rest. Besides, China still has the mining contract, the article is irrelevant.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

I'm quoting the article that he posted. Either the article is truthful or it isn't. You can't use one piece of it to support your point and dismiss the rest.

That's the standard MO for these lunatics. Mediaguy completely dismisses most of the NIST report and then later quotes parts of it to back up his crazy theories. It's absolutely amazingly stupid.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RRACY

Listen retard, the news anchors who saw it live either didn't see it, or mistook for a chopper, and only called it a plane afterward. There's no possibility it could be a plane or chopper.

You posted a video where the news anchor said "There's police helicopters buzzing around, and, oh, another plane just hit".

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

No they can't fly it into a TARGETED building like they did, simultaneously two times within an hour....

Why not?

All of these fuckers had some degree of flight training. It's not difficult to fly a plane - Throttle, joystick, left is left, right is right, forward is down, back is up. Once an airplane is up in the air it's simple.

And when your aiming for the tallest building on the skyline that's over two hundred feet wide...

[xholly]

I worked on the airport ramp for years, thanks for posting all the images of the 767 rracy, it certainly convinced me it was really an actual 767.

when do the hollow earth aliens come into this tho?

[xholly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why not?

All of these fuckers had some degree of flight training. It's not difficult to fly a plane - Throttle, joystick, left is left, right is right, forward is down, back is up. Once an airplane is up in the air it's simple.

And when your aiming for the tallest building on the skyline that's over two hundred feet wide...

yea its very easy.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You posted a video where the news anchor said "There's police helicopters buzzing around, and, oh, another plane just hit".

Amazing, just amazing...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by RRACY

Go ahead and put me on ignore, ya pussy.

Dirty F won't put you on ignore, RRACY. He's having way too much fun in all of this.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by **********

Dirty F won't put you on ignore, RRACY. He's having way too much fun in all of this.

Actually i did. Even i have my limits. I like to mess with fools but this guy is just 100% insane. Nothing funny about it anymore. Just annoying as fuck

[DWB]

Originally Posted by RRACY

That is clearly a plane. You want to see an orb so that's what you see. I would love to see an orb and view a real smoking gun, but it's just a plane flying through and a crappy recording. Nothing more.

I have no doubt two planes hit those towers. WHY they hit them, I don't know. Do I believe Arabs with box cutters could take over multiple jets and with little flight experience fly them into targets... not really. But it doesn't matter what happened, nothing will change even if the truth turns out to be that Bush himself ordered it.

That said, Building 7 and the Pentagon are both worth looking into more. I do not believe the official reports on either of them. I don't have the answer, I just don't believe the reports based on the information I have seen so far. That said, even if it turns out Bush ordered a scud into the Pentagon and blew up building 7 with his bare hands, it wouldn't even matter. Americans are so lost and full of fear, they don't even know how to protest properly. "Peace" won't get them anywhere in today's climate except maced in the face and arrested while they cry "police brutality' for their YouTube video. How's "Occupy FAIL" working out for those pansy asses anyway?

Anyway... back to the point of the post, that's a plane.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

The mineral deposits weren't discovered until 2007, though, We invaded Afghanistan in 2001. Here's another quote from that same article:

Isn't it a little odd that two of the largest nations on earth have both gone to war with this tiny, uneducated, totally undeveloped country that just so happens to be full of resources and supplies something like nine-tenths of the world’s opium?

Probably a coincidence.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Shotsie

The mineral deposits weren't discovered until 2007, though, We invaded Afghanistan in 2001. Here's another quote from that same article:

The world already knew that Afghan had incredible mineral wealth, the difference is now that the West is back into Afghan they can be more precise as to how much; enabling them to draw up contracts and make bank. It's a bit like if a burglar broke into a billionaires mansion; they might not know exactly what was there, but they'd expect it to be good.

"Geologists have known of the extent of the mineral wealth for over a century, as a result of surveys done by the British and Russians."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan

Knowledge of Afghan's wealth of resources even goes back to ancient times

"Since ancient times Afghanistan has been famous as a source of precious and semi-precious stones and above all its lapis lazuli, which has been prized throughout history both for jewellery and as a pigment."
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/afghanminerals/about.htm

Different nationalities have been involved, including German, Italian, French and Soviet. They also received assistance from the United Nations (HQ in New York) i.e. it wasn't just secret Soviet knowledge

"A new epoch in the study of Afghanistan's geology and mineral resources began when the Government of Afghanistan inaugurated the National Geological Survey in July 1955. This marked the initiation of systematic surveys of the geology and mineral resources of the country, which continued over the next 25 years. This period was characterised by extensive mapping operations and, subsequently, by geological surveys and prospecting of mineral occurrences and more detailed evaluation of selected prospects. The Afghanistan Geological Survey under the Ministry of Mines and Industries conducted this work in cooperation with German, Italian, French and Soviet geologists. During the first years of the existence of the Geological Survey some assistance was also received from the United Nations organisation."
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/afghanminerals/about.htm

In 1979 Afghan became closed to Western Geologists, however by then the geology of Afghan was known in more detail than any other region of the Himalaya.

"Geological investigations were severely curtailed with the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979, when the country effectively became closed to western geologists. Prior to the invasion, the geology of Afghanistan was probably known in more detail than any other region of the Himalaya, but from that time onwards outside interests were suspended and the Afghan geological community became isolated."
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/afghanminerals/about.htm

Now that the West once again have control of Afghan, modern concepts and methods are being used. They can now be more precise, doing formal explorations.

"Following the fall of the Taliban regime, the Government of the Transitional Islamic State of Afghanistan, with the assistance of the World Bank, began to formulate a mining sector strategy and policy. Amongst many things, this recognised the need for the rehabilitation and restructuring of the Afghanistan Geological Survey in order for it to perform as a modern geological survey and implement a programme of geological mapping and resource assessment using modern concepts and methods."

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by DWB

Isn't it a little odd that two of the largest nations on earth have both gone to war with this tiny, uneducated, totally undeveloped country that just so happens to be full of resources and supplies something like nine-tenths of the world’s opium?

Probably a coincidence.

Whichever country they want to go to they fund some kind of terror/revolution and use the secret services to set off bombs in mosques, then head off over there to save the day.

"The War on Terror", Genius!

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by WarChild

That's the standard MO for these lunatics. Mediaguy completely dismisses most of the NIST report and then later quotes parts of it to back up his crazy theories. It's absolutely amazingly stupid.

I don't really have any theories.

NIST went with pancaking, then changed their theory because they were called out on it.

NIST said WTC 7 did not fall at the speed of gravity, then changed their theory because they were called out on it - by a high school physics teacher.

NIST corrected their findings unwillingly several other times.

The 9/11 Comission report, and the administration's story, and most outlandishly the NIST report, are theories that go against basic physics, and so should be questioned.

Government and military inaction and the huge amount of coincidences that day, all the pre-9/11 warnings, the shut-down or obstructed investigations into the supposed hijackers before 9/11, the ties to the Saudis that were ignored and overlooked, the disposal of all the proof of what the FBI called a "crime scene", the FBI's own assertion they had no evidence tying Ben Laden to 9/11 and finally the fact that Ben Laden denied being involved multiple times - these are all good reasons to start doubting the official story, and to launch an actual investigation into what happened.

The government is the one with the crazy theories.

[uno]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Read:


Key words: "straight" down? Vertical "descents"? "Asymmetry"?

In other words, maybe one of the only three buildings ever to collapse from fire in the history of steel skyscraper construction could go straight down like a demolition against all odds. But three? Impossible.

If such collapses were possible - they would go down non-symmetrically, topple, crash sideways, tilt... not drop straight down.

IF pancaking weren't already discounted, by NIST most notably, then they shouldn't have crumbled completely down to their base - they would have stopped at some point and left a huge stack of concrete floors, not pulverized dust and match-stick piles of steel beams.

:D

Do you think 2 of the largest buildings in the world were designed, in a worst case scenario, to take out all of southern Manhattan by falling on their side?

[uno]

Originally Posted by porno jew

it's an intellectual dead end. look at the people who obsess about this stuff. you would progress your intellectual development more studying phrenology instead.

Phrenology is really pretty interesting if you're into medical quackery. I have a friend who has a bunch of original old charts in frames.