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Old 10-19-2017, 11:53 AM   #1
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Do not worry at $ 999/ month the deals will pour in...
no idea how much work he does for it, or how good he is. but for a decent seo company $999/month is only 15-18 hours a month work.

so again, i got no idea what he offers/does but in general that is a normal price for seo
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no idea how much work he does for it, or how good he is. but for a decent seo company $999/month is only 15-18 hours a month work.

so again, i got no idea what he offers/does but in general that is a normal price for seo
I agree with you to a point, 1000 bucks is not a big deal if it shows results... But it is a big deal if you spend it and NOTHING happens...That would be a good business in Nigeria

So, I prefer it as in Chinese laundry:" No tickie, no shirtie"... Show and prove something and I will pay, then show more and I will pay more...yada yada..

But do NOT ask me to give you "only" $999 and then sit and wait for miracles, an offer like this is no different then signing up with this guy..



And then...




So,if this guy is real he should set up a system "pay based on performance"
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I agree with you to a point, 1000 bucks is not a big deal if it shows results... But it is a big deal if you spend it and NOTHING happens...That would be a good business in Nigeria

So, I prefer it as in Chinese laundry:" No tickie, no shirtie"... Show and prove something and I will pay, then show more and I will pay more...yada yada..

But do NOT ask me to give you "only" $999 and then sit and wait for miracles, an offer like this is no different then signing up with this guy..



And then...



So,if this guy is real he should set up a system "pay based on performance"

There are no miracles being performed just good adult SEO that gets results from professionals that do it all day for various sites in different niches. If you think pay per performance is a good model you don't understand SEO too well because there are investments in the website the webmaster has to make... in a pay per performance mode you'd be asking us to make that investment.

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Compare it with a car ...

You can ask me to prepare your car so it's good to race with.
BUT I can not give any guarantee that you will win the race. Understand? For example you can always fuck up yourself.

If you want me to guarantee that you win the race , then I ask 95% of the profit you make from it (lifetime).
Why? Because then I WON YOUR RACE, NOT YOU. Capish?

In the first place SEO companies make that your site is all set and everything is in place to make that you can "join the race for some good portion organic traffic".

There is not a single SEO company in the world who will guarantee certain results.

But I can assure you that they'll do all possible, because when you are a happy costumer then new clients will step inside.

Read this: https://moz.com/blog/why-reputable-s...ngine-rankings
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So, if this guy is real he should set up a system "pay based on performance"
You think someone would do SEO for you and get you rankings, only for you to then post-pay them for it (which perhaps not you, but unscrupulous types would simply not pay)?

Being in the FB ad biz, I can tell you that everyone offering to set shit up for free and then have you pay once they deliver results absolutely does not know how to deliver results. They're basically playing around with your ad spend and learning on your dime. An SEO doing it would essentially be playing around with your site and probably fuck it up.
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You think someone would do SEO for you and get you rankings, only for you to then post-pay them for it (which perhaps not you, but unscrupulous types would simply not pay)?

Being in the FB ad biz, I can tell you that everyone offering to set shit up for free and then have you pay once they deliver results absolutely does not know how to deliver results. They're basically playing around with your ad spend and learning on your dime. An SEO doing it would essentially be playing around with your site and probably fuck it up.
Makes sense...
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Makes sense...
Not to me...if I have a house built.... I will pay based on achievable and measurable goals.

1) pay for the land
2) pay for design and blue prints
3) pay for various approvals
4) pay for digging the foundation
5) pay for laying the foundation
6) pay for erecting the structure
7) pay for the roof
8) pay for all the inside work
9) pay for finishing and landsacping
10) pay for furnishings

....why SEO cannot be based on same principle, defind cerain goals then fulfill them and get paid and proceed to next goal...that is how a good business is done, not this "smoke and mirrors" most of the "experts" are pushing here.

What would stop me to announce, that I am an SEO expert and for only $ 499 ( this month special) will make your SEO and rank your site #1) rhen wait a few weeks and then print some shit from Semalt and cash in on the naive and trusting idiots like me...
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There are no miracles being performed just good adult SEO that gets results from professionals that do it all day for various sites in different niches. If you think pay per performance is a good model you don't understand SEO too well because there are investments in the website the webmaster has to make... in a pay per performance mode you'd be asking us to make that investment.

We work with adult sites every day trust us to know what's the next best move for your SEO.
You are right, I do not understand SEO very well, I would actually say I do NOT undesrstand SEO at all. That is why I am looking to somebody like you to fix it for me. But I have been in business ( not web business only) for many years and in any business the provider is able to set predictable and measurable goals and stick to them and the purchaser then pays based on performance of these goals ( maybe even in advance of each goal)....

To wit:

I had a tooth implant and a bridge done recently.... The whole deal was about 5,000 but there were about 8 differnt appointments and each was paid for separately.

I have another example of a house building in my reply above.

My main business is a movie production, in my opinion even more complex then any SEO. And indeed, all agree to the budget but it is paid out on goals achieved (usually /week)....Not all indvance, and trust me , the movie business is even more crooked then SEO business.

So, I am NOT looking for a free ride. I will pay, and pay well to the party which is able to define and agree with specific goals and sticks to them...My site recently re built by GFY member was done excatly like that...so why not SEO??? What is soooo mysterious about it?
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You are right, I do not understand SEO very well, I would actually say I do NOT undesrstand SEO at all. That is why I am looking to somebody like you to fix it for me. But I have been in business ( not web business only) for many years and in any business the provider is able to set predictable and measurable goals and stick to them and the purchaser then pays based on performance of these goals ( maybe even in advance of each goal)....

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I had a tooth implant and a bridge done recently.... The whole deal was about 5,000 but there were about 8 differnt appointments and each was paid for separately.

I have another example of a house building in my reply above.

My main business is a movie production, in my opinion even more complex then any SEO. And indeed, all agree to the budget but it is paid out on goals achieved (usually /week)....Not all indvance, and trust me , the movie business is even more crooked then SEO business.

So, I am NOT looking for a free ride. I will pay, and pay well to the party which is able to define and agree with specific goals and sticks to them...My site recently re built by GFY member was done excatly like that...so why not SEO??? What is soooo mysterious about it?

Nothing at all. You can pay weekly for your services...
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You are right, I do not understand SEO very well, I would actually say I do NOT undesrstand SEO at all. That is why I am looking to somebody like you to fix it for me. But I have been in business ( not web business only) for many years and in any business the provider is able to set predictable and measurable goals and stick to them and the purchaser then pays based on performance of these goals ( maybe even in advance of each goal)....

To wit:

I had a tooth implant and a bridge done recently.... The whole deal was about 5,000 but there were about 8 differnt appointments and each was paid for separately.

I have another example of a house building in my reply above.

My main business is a movie production, in my opinion even more complex then any SEO. And indeed, all agree to the budget but it is paid out on goals achieved (usually /week)....Not all indvance, and trust me , the movie business is even more crooked then SEO business.

So, I am NOT looking for a free ride. I will pay, and pay well to the party which is able to define and agree with specific goals and sticks to them...My site recently re built by GFY member was done excatly like that...so why not SEO??? What is soooo mysterious about it?
Except in your example there is no third party (google) involved where you have zero control over. I think you forget that Google SEO is a guessing game for everybody and since they keep changing (adjusting) their algorithms it's hard too predict the outcome. That is why no (legit) SEO services can guarantee an outcome or first place ranking (or even first page ranking). All that they can do is push you in the right direction with advice. And even if you want to focus on a certain keyword, google might not even pick that up. It isn't up to you nor the seo company what google ranks you for.
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Not to me...if I have a house built.... I will pay based on achievable and measurable goals.

1) pay for the land
2) pay for design and blue prints
3) pay for various approvals
4) pay for digging the foundation
5) pay for laying the foundation
6) pay for erecting the structure
7) pay for the roof
8) pay for all the inside work
9) pay for finishing and landsacping
10) pay for furnishings
How much of that do you think you can post-pay for? Here's a hint, maybe only furnishings on a "MAKE NO PAYMENTS UNTIL 2018!" kind of deal. No one is giving you their time and effort upfront before payment on any of that. Like what, do you think the house would be fully built and furnished before you'd pay anyone?

Your payment for the results of SEO is by continuing the contract. If you feel the SEO provider didn't do the actionables they said they would, then you can chargeback or whatever, but given rankings take time, expecting an SEO to put in a month or more work for free on the hope that you'll pay them when they bring you results will - like I said - lead you to using people that won't bring you results and will more than likely fuck up your rankings instead because they don't know what they're doing.
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Nothing at all. You can pay weekly for your services...

....but what about setting the measurable goals first ??
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Except in your example there is no third party (google) involved where you have zero control over. I think you forget that Google SEO is a guessing game for everybody and since they keep changing (adjusting) their algorithms it's hard too predict the outcome. That is why no (legit) SEO services can guarantee an outcome or first place ranking (or even first page ranking). All that they can do is push you in the right direction with advice. And even if you want to focus on a certain keyword, google might not even pick that up. It isn't up to you nor the seo company what google ranks you for.
You just confirmed my very point... All what all this appears to be ( according to you anyway) just so much like crystal ball scam....

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How much of that do you think you can post-pay for? Here's a hint, maybe only furnishings on a "MAKE NO PAYMENTS UNTIL 2018!" kind of deal. No one is giving you their time and effort upfront before payment on any of that. Like what, do you think the house would be fully built and furnished before you'd pay anyone?

Your payment for the results of SEO is by continuing the contract. If you feel the SEO provider didn't do the actionables they said they would, then you can chargeback or whatever, but given rankings take time, expecting an SEO to put in a month or more work for free on the hope that you'll pay them when they bring you results will - like I said - lead you to using people that won't bring you results and will more than likely fuck up your rankings instead because they don't know what they're doing.

See my 2 replies above....Also, if your business cannot define measurable goals and stick to them... ( and I would be happy to pay in advance for each) then it is NOT a business, it is a scam !!! or at the very least a sham..
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How much of that do you think you can post-pay for? Here's a hint, maybe only furnishings on a "MAKE NO PAYMENTS UNTIL 2018!" kind of deal. No one is giving you their time and effort upfront before payment on any of that. Like what, do you think the house would be fully built and furnished before you'd pay anyone?

Your payment for the results of SEO is by continuing the contract. If you feel the SEO provider didn't do the actionables they said they would, then you can chargeback or whatever, but given rankings take time, expecting an SEO to put in a month or more work for free on the hope that you'll pay them when they bring you results will - like I said - lead you to using people that won't bring you results and will more than likely fuck up your rankings instead because they don't know what they're doing.
If you did read my post you would have NOTED that I was willing to pay in ADVANCE for each goal....so do not accuse me of trying to fuck somebody ....because:

....GFY member built for me a new separate site
....GFY member completely rebuilt my main site
....GFY member is now for over a year handling all my clip uploads
....GFY member for almost 2 years handles all my DMCA takedowns
....GFY member is now reviewing my SEO (or more like lack there off)
....GFY member for a few months is handling my twitter promotions

And all were paid ( and are being paid) on time and for what was agreed to...

Why would I wanted to fuck up my good reputation around here ????
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If you did read my post you would have NOTED that I was willing to pay in ADVANCE for each goal....so do not accuse me of trying to fuck somebody ....because:
I wasn't accusing you of trying to fuck anybody. I'm saying if someone doing SEO would do it on a post-pay basis, they open themselves up to be screwed by non-payment, similar to someone paying CC can chargeback and screw someone. Our agency turned down a project recently that would've been lucrative due to the guy wanting to pay CC for $20k+ vs. normal payments at that level like wire or ACH. Likewise, we don't take any post-pay business on for the same reason.

You were the one who brought up "pay for performance" which you can't prepay for obviously. If you weren't meaning that as post-paying for SEO services, then there's not an issue with that. Absolutely there should be at least a sense of the outcomes that will come other than "will mak ur ranks highr." and I agree with that. Was just saying that with how many people getting into post-pay agreements and simply not paying at all even if results are delivered, I don't blame SEOs for not doing a post-pay arrangement.
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I wasn't accusing you of trying to fuck anybody. I'm saying if someone doing SEO would do it on a post-pay basis, they open themselves up to be screwed by non-payment, similar to someone paying CC can chargeback and screw someone. Our agency turned down a project recently that would've been lucrative due to the guy wanting to pay CC for $20k+ vs. normal payments at that level like wire or ACH. Likewise, we don't take any post-pay business on for the same reason.

You were the one who brought up "pay for performance" which you can't prepay for obviously. If you weren't meaning that as post-paying for SEO services, then there's not an issue with that. Absolutely there should be at least a sense of the outcomes that will come other than "will mak ur ranks highr." and I agree with that. Was just saying that with how many people getting into post-pay agreements and simply not paying at all even if results are delivered, I don't blame SEOs for not doing a post-pay arrangement.

Anybody in any business who promises and collects money, yet cannot deliver is a crook, period and full stop...the only 2 exceptions I know of are doctors treating cancer, there I would cut some slack and whores, but at least once I pay them and they do not perform I have a recourse since they are in the room with me and not "somewhere in Bangala land"

Lets take GA or Alexa.... You improve my standing by 20 % i will pay you 20 % ...now, would not I be totally stupid if the SEO guy did that and I would NOT want to pay him for him to go for another 20 %.... Yes, I would NOT be a crook I would be a stupid crook.

So pay me $ 999 a month for six months, and maybe if Google does not fuck it up, then you may get a bit higher rank. ....WOW what a business proposition.
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