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Sid70 07-06-2017 09:24 AM

Italian property owners, advice.
 
Looking to buy a 90 meters one storey house in Mazzolada, curious what would be a yearly tax?

ilnjscb 07-06-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21873826)
Looking to buy a 90 meters one storey house in Mazzolada, curious what would be a yearly tax?

If you get an actual answer to this, I'll be really impressed.

mineistaken 07-06-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21874570)
If you get an actual answer to this, I'll be really impressed.

https://www.justlanded.com/english/I...y/Property-Tax

Sid70 07-07-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21874585)

According to this guide its about EURO 400 a year, not bad at all.

mineistaken 07-07-2017 07:40 AM

It can be much lower if you calculated this by actual sale value. Value stored in municipality documents are usually much (sometimes) few times lower than actual market value. Of course that may not be the case in Italy, but just thinking out loud.

Sid70 07-07-2017 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21875878)
It can be much lower if you calculated this by actual sale value. Value stored in municipality documents are usually much (sometimes) few times lower than actual market value. Of course that may not be the case in Italy, but just thinking out loud.

38k for a house, might be lower.

JFK 07-07-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21874570)
If you get an actual answer to this, I'll be really impressed.

Well Look @ dat ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :1orglaugh:thumbsup

Ross 07-07-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21875905)
38k for a house, might be lower.

What kind of shape is the house in for 38K? It seems like a good area to be in, close to Venice, Milan and 3-4 hour drive to Tuscany. Right on the borders of Slovenia and Austria too, plenty of options for nice weekend trips.

Sid70 07-07-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 21875956)
What kind of shape is the house in for 38K? It seems like a good area to be in, close to Venice, Milan and 3-4 hour drive to Tuscany. Right on the borders of Slovenia and Austria too, plenty of options for nice weekend trips.

This yellow one:

https://www.google.at/maps/@45.75319...2!8i6656?hl=en

Bladewire 07-07-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21875980)

Notice the discoloration on the left hand side of the roof? Look for water damage in the corresponding side wall. That place will be cute with lots of love in the yard good luck man :thumbsup

Sid70 07-07-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21875998)
Notice the discoloration on the left hand side of the roof? Look for water damage in the corresponding side wall. That place will be cute with lots of love in the yard good luck man :thumbsup

I'm in Austria now. Driving to check it out. Will see what it looks like in reality.

Google Expert 07-07-2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21875980)

looks like a rapefugee friendly area

Bladewire 07-07-2017 01:21 PM

How many rooms? How much square feet?

ilnjscb 07-07-2017 09:56 PM

Ok, I'm impressed

HomerSimpson 07-08-2017 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21876013)
I'm in Austria now. Driving to check it out. Will see what it looks like in reality.

Sid70 please keep us updated. I'm interested in that area too (Slovenia/Austria close to Italian border) since it a great location close both sea and alps...

Also how are you finding properties (web ads, agencies)?

.

Sid70 07-14-2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 21877348)
Sid70 please keep us updated. I'm interested in that area too (Slovenia/Austria close to Italian border) since it a great location close both sea and alps...

Also how are you finding properties (web ads, agencies)?

.

Bitches are lazy. Contacted the agency but still no open house date. But visited a place personally. Talked to the locals. Looks better then I thought.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ir14ih.jpg

Sarn 07-14-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21890068)

looks good!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qHvJUo7dhqQ/maxresdefault.jpg

Sid70 07-15-2017 05:39 AM

It's just 2 kms from a fairly big town that has a mall and all the old styled central part. If you want a flat it comes as low as 50k EUR.

CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 09:02 AM

not so far away from my current location :)

post url where you find this property

klinton 07-15-2017 09:50 AM

What are you trying to say ? That in Russia everybody lives in mansions ? I highly doubt, sir !

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21890152)


Google Expert 07-15-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21891340)
It's just 2 kms from a fairly big town that has a mall and all the old styled central part. If you want a flat it comes as low as 50k EUR.

how the hell are you going to get EU citizenship? are you a rapefugee or something?

k0nr4d 07-15-2017 10:32 AM

That house looks nothing short of dilapidated on streetview, you are gonna have tons of issues with mold and water. That being said, seems cheap - you wouldn't' even be able to buy a house like that in Poland for 38k euro.

CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 10:49 AM

30k for home like that in poland??

no problem, especially in village far away from big cities

Domy na sprzedaż: cała Polska | Morizon.pl - cena do 140000 PLN

but for that price you need always some money for renovation

klinton 07-15-2017 11:20 AM

uhum... with 20 k more for renovation and charming winter for 8 months every year:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
also, obligation to pay abonament for TVPPissss every month :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
sounds like a plan ! where should I signup ?
In Italy on the other hand - burreaucracy, nobody knows nothing, charming and warm people, great food, high taxes and...
AN ITALIAN CORPORATION. You have two cows, but you don't know where they are. You decide to have lunch.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891685)
30k for home like that in poland??

no problem, especially in village far away from big cities

Domy na sprzedaż: cała Polska | Morizon.pl - cena do 140000 PLN

but for that price you need always some money for renovation


Sarn 07-15-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891730)
uhum... with 20 k more for renovation and charming winter for 8 months every year:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
also, obligation to pay abonament for TVPPissss every month :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
sounds like a plan ! where should I signup ?
In Italy on the other hand - burreaucracy, nobody knows nothing, charming and warm people, great food, high taxes and...
AN ITALIAN CORPORATION. You have two cows, but you don't know where they are. You decide to have lunch.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

why you hate Poland ?))

klinton 07-15-2017 11:45 AM

I hate/ dislike idiots and idiocy, regardless of its origin. But I doubt that as someone who votes for Vlad & his crew you may understand it...
I even have much simper answer for you, that I'm pretty sure that you will understand: I'm a foreign agent and traitor :D
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21891748)
why you hate Poland ?))


klinton 07-15-2017 12:05 PM

I'm also representant of Jewish international conspiracy and I'm part of that noble chosen nation, with circumcised cock.

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891751)
I'm a foreign agent and traitor :D


Sarn 07-15-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891751)
I hate/ dislike idiots and idiocy, regardless of its origin.


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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891751)
But I doubt that as someone who votes for Vlad & his crew you may understand it...

I will vote for him soon! :1orglaugh why you hate democracy?
http://ny.uschinapress.com/spotlight...0404101236.jpg
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891751)
I even have much simper answer for you, that I'm pretty sure that you will understand: I'm a foreign agent and traitor :D

you traitor and hate Patriots? :1orglaugh

klinton 07-15-2017 12:24 PM

I'm Davidson

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21891778)
you traitor and hate Patriots? :1orglaugh


Sarn 07-15-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891793)
I'm Davidson

And you live in Poland and hate Stalin? :1orglaugh
http://www.calvin09.de/daten/Image/B...g/2326_org.jpg

CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21891748)
why you hate Poland ?))


because he is polish, born in polish
and blame everything what polish for his failures

i quess :)


SID, please provide some urls of property agencies in italy

Sarn 07-15-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891823)
because he is polish, born in polish
and blame everything what polish for his failures
i quess :)

Yes I think it is too :1orglaugh

klinton 07-15-2017 01:12 PM

your guess is wrong, as since recent (4?5?) years I visit Poland only for short term stays...
like I said: I hate/ dislike idiocy and idiots, thats all, regardless of their origin...
since recent 2 years in polish politics (and previous also - but not on such scale) are constant road of failures, blamages and "jokes" that werent meant to be funny actually (one big great CONSTANT IDIOCY like in venezuela for example).... this is what I think and thats my opinion
and yeah, thats only my opinion :)
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891823)
because he is polish, born in polish
and blame everything what polish for his failures

i quess :)


SID, please provide some urls of property agencies in italy


klinton 07-15-2017 01:13 PM

do you know that Stalin killed more people than Hitler ? :)
or you consider Stalin as a great patriot of your country, like all these 80 years old retards ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21891817)
And you live in Poland and hate Stalin? :1orglaugh
http://www.calvin09.de/daten/Image/B...g/2326_org.jpg


CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 01:18 PM

oh, so if you were only two times in poland lately
you are less polish and you can shit in your own nest
and tell us your faulty opinions about poland?


do you think that peple will respect you that you are polish and hate poland??
think about it


beside of this, you are so wrong about current polish political and social situation

Bladewire 07-15-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891871)
do you know that Stalin killed more people than Hitler ? :)
or you consider Stalin as a great patriot of your country, like all these 80 years old retards ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

klinton 07-15-2017 01:25 PM

"beside this, you are so wrong on current polish situation" hahah love it. I suggest stopping watching TVPiss... I will repeat once again: I was never big supporter of previous polish gov, but what these guys do now is actually reason to put them into prison. army should take over in defence of democracy (if people cant do it), as what they do is slow coup d'etat..slow...slow.
Hitler, Napoleon,Stalin Kaczynski, Putin - so funny that they were all small guys... what do you think ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Like I said - i'm not antipolish, im antiidiocy (in my opinion).
I bet that in your opinion everyone that agrees with Snowden is antiamerican, everyone that agrees with, ekhm lets say Solzenitsyn in 60s was antirussian (or everyone that disagrees with Putin is antirussian), or everyone that agrees, with ekhm, lets say Anonymous or wikileaks is antilaw....good luck with that.
http://p3.wawalove.pl/p3.wawalove.pl...174267e72c.jpg
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHPC18yW4AArEC7.png
its grotesque, too sad that it happens for real
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891880)
oh, so if you were only two times in poland lately
you are less polish and you can shit in your own nest
and tell us your faulty opinions about poland?


do you think that peple will respect you that you are polish and hate poland??
think about it


beside this, you are so wrong on current polish situation


CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891871)
do you know that Stalin killed more people than Hitler ? :)
or you consider Stalin as a great patriot of your country, like all these 80 years old retards ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


you know what, you are like children, you excited about stupid pictures that means nothing
10 years ago 16 years old children laugh at this

its waste of time to discuss with someone who have such arguments like these pictures



bdw
stalin killed millions of russians too
i guess that in majority they hated him as well :)

i dont think it was patriot

klinton 07-15-2017 01:38 PM

pictures are not stupid...read what I wrote above - all dictators were small...its inferiority complex that adult tries to compensate in his adult life :) some of such people will try to compensate it by becoming famous politicians or.."retired saviour of the nation", like someone said :)
I bet that many Russians would disagree with you on Stalin, and I bet that the ver same Russians goes to vote for Putin on every occasion:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
this is why what i call sample idiocy...
also, thats the discussion with Russian Sarn here. he always has an argument to let you know if yo uare from Poland for example, that your country would be better under Russia:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
like: "look what Hitler did, we saved you", or: "look what UPA did, we saved you"...its even funnier when later he uses different arguments to prove totally opposite things, like: "Ukraine was always friend of Russia" etc. etc.
anyways, im back to work:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891907)
you know what, you are like children, you excited about stupid pictures that means nothing
10 years ago 16 years old children laugh at this

its waste of time to discuss with someone who have such arguments like these pictures



bdw
stalin killed millions of russians too
i guess that in majority they hated him as well :)

i dont think it was patriot


klinton 07-15-2017 01:48 PM

also, btw. if you love reading Russia Today (I bet that you do), I suggest you reading these books:
https://www.rebis.com.pl/pl/book-arc...HCHB03883.html
and the second part , too :)
also, this interview for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
I hope that you open your eyes, not only for the faults of the west :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21891907)
you know what, you are like children, you excited about stupid pictures that means nothing
10 years ago 16 years old children laugh at this

its waste of time to discuss with someone who have such arguments like these pictures



bdw
stalin killed millions of russians too
i guess that in majority they hated him as well :)

i dont think it was patriot


CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 02:08 PM

my eyes are open because live in poland becoming better and better
even without contrast to western countries where are many problems with terrorism or immigrants

thats why current government have huge endorsement


if you don't like it, just wait for next election, this is democracy
but you even dont' vote if you are not in poland
so stop talking bullshit and complaining, i see only frustration
don't blame polish people and poland for this

if you have problem with 2euro for tv media, if you have problem with 5cents more for gas, when gas is cheaper 20cents than 5 months ago

things are really bad for you

klinton 07-15-2017 02:31 PM

things are going better because thats the economic trend as for now, it doesnt have nothing to do with Pisss...Poland will be strong with salaries netto around 600 euros:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and will greatly fulfil its task as a fabrique for german, dutch and french products :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:
with a small help of Ukrainians, that will for sure help to raise salaries in Poland, just like Poles did for british in UK:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
unless you mean 500 + ?
do you think that someone would plan his family because he will have promised 500 pln every month ? Korwin said about it: either this plan wont work and its lie, or it will grow population of "menels"...
Also, it is really sad if nation doesnt understand that if government wants to give 500, it has to take away 600 or 700..that way or another...
Also, Greece was also having boom and "prosperity", unless it was time to pay the bills/ debts..its great to consume in nice restaurant, too bad that at one point the waiter will appear with the bill...but who the f.. cares ? it wil be in 20 years, in that time mr K. will be dead already, just like his cronies
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21892021)
my eyes are open because live in poland becoming better and better
even without contrast to western countries where are many problems with terrorism or immigrants

thats why current government have huge endorsement


if you don't like it, just wait for next election, this is democracy
but you even dont' vote if you are not in poland
so stop talking bullshit and complaining, i see only frustration
don't blame polish people and poland for this

if you have problem with 2euro for tv media, if you have problem with 5cents more for gas, when gas is cheaper 20cents than 5 months ago

things are really bad for you


klinton 07-15-2017 02:33 PM

I suggest you to travel more, and turn off TV...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1org laugh
life goes on everywhere!
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21892021)
even without contrast to western countries where are many problems with terrorism


Sarn 07-15-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21891871)
do you know that Stalin killed more people than Hitler ? :)
or you consider Stalin as a great patriot of your country, like all these 80 years old retards ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hitler for you better than Stalin?))
https://pp.userapi.com/c309922/v3099...55j0YhkV6M.jpg

klinton 07-15-2017 02:52 PM

both sucked, how about that ?
Radio Yerevan was asked: "Would it be possible to bring Socialism to the Sahara?"
"Yes," replied Radio Yerevan, "But after the first five year plan, we'll have to import sand."
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21892051)
Hitler for you better than Stalin?))
https://pp.userapi.com/c309922/v3099...55j0YhkV6M.jpg


CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21892042)
things are going better because thats the economic trend as for now, it doesnt have nothing to do with Pisss...Poland will be strong with salaries netto around 600 euros:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and will greatly fulfil its task as a fabrique for german, dutch and french products :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:
with a small help of Ukrainians, that will for sure help to raise salaries in Poland, just like Poles did for british in UK:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
unless you mean 500 + ?
do you think that someone would plan his family because he will have promised 500 pln every month ? Korwin said about it: either this plan wont work and its lie, or it will grow population of "menels"...
Also, it is really sad if nation doesnt understand that if government wants to give 500, it has to take away 600 or 700..that way or another...
Also, Greece was also having boom and "prosperity", unless it was time to pay the bills/ debts..its great to consume in nice restaurant, too bad that at one point the waiter will appear with the bill...but who the f.. cares ? it wil be in 20 years, in that time mr K. will be dead already, just like his cronies

what you compare, leazy greeks and enterprising poles who was trained by years of communism?

do you hear about hard working greeks, in the uk for example?

secondly, did you hear about vat carousels ? leaking billions from vat? current government stopped this and get huge bonus from taxes

we the biggest overplus in budget in last 20 years, and its after new child benefits!
did you know that? you know nothing about current situation

there is tons of examples that this government working very good

other countries has much higher social benefits, for example for children, families
but you as pole complaining about adding (small) polish social benefits

you complaining about everything polish
the same as lefist, old communists, thiefs - PO party supporters and members, or stupid KOD crook members
only obstruction, nothing more

because of this and what you say, current government is stronger and stronger, and its good :)


shame on you
its very good that you are out of poland

Sid70 07-15-2017 03:22 PM

Anyone who mentioned politics will end up eating bags of dicks eventually.

HomerSimpson 07-15-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21892075)
what you compare, leazy greeks and enterprising poles who was trained by years of communism?

do you hear about hard working greeks, in the uk for example?

I've met so many of them in Greece... I've met some of them in the Netherlands also... as a matter of fact I know one hardworking Greek guy working in UK too... there are hardworking Greek people... They are not all the same just because they are from Greece!

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21892075)
shame on you
its very good that you are out of poland

This is very bad thing to say even if you don't agree with some one about something. You can't live in your country only with the people you agree with and expel all the rest out.

Just my :2 cents:


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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 21892102)
Anyone who mentioned politics will end up eating bags of dicks eventually.

Exactly... this thread went waaaaay off-topic...

CrazyMartin 07-15-2017 03:34 PM

i dont tell this because i don't agree with him

i tell because he complaining on everything what is polish
and not only in this thread
and he is polish

Sid70 07-15-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 21891667)
That house looks nothing short of dilapidated on streetview, you are gonna have tons of issues with mold and water. That being said, seems cheap - you wouldn't' even be able to buy a house like that in Poland for 38k euro.

Had a convo with a neighbour, says lots of work is needed to make it good. Gas and water are present. It's a one way road where only locals would drive into. Could be a summer house, the sea is not far away.

Of course, Poland can offer something on a budget too, but lately, prices are going up and can't coop with the2-2,5K per square meter in a rainy, foggy and polluted with smog area of Malopolska.

The mentioned house, won't be dealing with it, but still it's a sign there are low priced properties in Italy.

Personally, I have found apartments in different towns in Northern Italy 50-70k EUR for 60-80 square meters. Ideal, IMO, turn key apartments 77-90 sq.m. start at 90-100k. Still cheaper than in Poland.


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