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Steve Rupe 05-18-2017 07:26 PM

For all of the Donald's supporters
 
Why do you daily blame Democrats for being the cause of the problems the Donald is having with his Presidency. He owns the Executive Branch of Government and the House and Senate as well as, in theory, the Supreme Court is owned by Republicans.

All of the investigations are created by Republicans as well as the call for a Special Prosecutor. Democrats are not blocking anything in the House or Senate because they do not have to power to do so. Any thing not getting passed in the House and Senate is the fault of the Republicans.

Why do you supporters of the Donald not blame who is actually responsible for the Donald's problems?

The Democrats cannot be blamed for anything that is going down with the Donald or the Government as the Domocrats have zero power at this point in time. Historically speaking that will probably change mid term but not before.

TampaToker 05-18-2017 07:41 PM

While Trump does carry some of the blame its not like the dems are going out of there way to do anything at all. They have no power and there best bet is to attack over and over again. They have no polices or any learned anything from the election. They are going to cause as much chaos as possible till mid term election and hope to gain some seats. Trump needs to shut the fuck up go on and handle his business.

Take out this Russia talk, investigation and dems have nothing. Hell they do not even have a party leader at this point. Trump needs to stay focused on the issues. We all will know the results of the investigation soon enough.

Rochard 05-18-2017 07:41 PM

Well, the country was a mess when Trump took over. I mean, the unemployment rate was 4.5% when Trump took over. The economy was clearly caused by Obama, and he failed to fix it after eight years in office.

TampaToker 05-18-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21777562)
Well, the country was a mess when Trump took over. I mean, the unemployment rate was 4.5% when Trump took over. The economy was clearly caused by Obama, and he failed to fix it after eight years in office.

Actually it was 4.7% when Obama took over. In all fairness Obama got handed a mess. He tried i will give you that but failed on several fronts. First he blew up the deficit. Second he totally screwed up on foreign policy. Third he started getting government involved healthcare which was a major fuck up. Right now you have around 40 million on food stamps with only 6 million jobs available. So to act like things were peachy when Trump took office is wrong.

TampaToker 05-18-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21777562)
Well, the country was a mess when Trump took over. I mean, the unemployment rate was 4.5% when Trump took over. The economy was clearly caused by Obama, and he failed to fix it after eight years in office.

I see you live in Califorina i mean how great are things when in los angles were 30k plus sleep on the streets nightly.

TampaToker 05-18-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777604)
I see you live in Califorina i mean how great are things when in los angles were 30k plus sleep on the streets nightly.

To push it even farther there is around 564,00 people homeless now across the country. Almost half of the homeless population is over 50 years old. 47,00 vets are homeless.

Bladewire 05-18-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777586)
Actually it was 4.7% when Obama took over.

Why are you lying?

It says a lot that you don't Google facts before you post licking Trump's ass. You don't even link to backup your claims you just make up a number. Amazing

The unemployment rate when Obama took office was 9.4% according to Bureau of Labor Statistics 2009 unemployment rate

Bladewire 05-18-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777604)
I see you live in Califorina i mean how great are things when in los angles were 30k plus sleep on the streets nightly.

Why are you lying?

What is wrong with you? You do know that homeless from across America get bussed to sunny California right? Nah you have no idea and don't care just lie and assume people won't check. No integrity :1orglaugh

Joshua G 05-19-2017 04:19 AM

it is funny that when obama was in charge & had congress, GOP was 100% united & democrats were divided. for example it was democrats that killed the public option in the senate finance committee, with chairman max baucus casting the deciding death vote. max baucus is a democrat, & voted down the public option.

He's one of those for-sale democrats bernie backers loathe. hilary was also a for-sale democrat.

now. the once divided democrats are 100% united, & the GOP is divided, cannot get things done. both sides wont work with the other. & gridlock endures.

someday a wise man, or woman, will decide that working with the other side of the isle would open up a lot more votes. but sadly it takes a national emergency to get both sides to vote together.

So OP you are incorrect that the democrats have zero power. refusing to compromise with the trump agenda assures its demise in the hands of GOP never-trumps.

looking foward from the comparisons...democrats got voted out in historic proportions since those 1st 2 obama years. the question is whether there will be an equal & opposite reaction to the trump agenda...

:2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 05-19-2017 05:01 AM

Most of the homeless have mental issues or addiction issues. Some just have had bad luck. We should take some spending away from the military budget and put it into urban wall enclosed campsites with new cardboard boxes supplied to the homeless as needed -- oh wait that sounds like Trump's Border Wall -- box them in and block the view :2 cents:

slapass 05-19-2017 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777586)
Actually it was 4.7% when Obama took over. In all fairness Obama got handed a mess. He tried i will give you that but failed on several fronts. First he blew up the deficit. Second he totally screwed up on foreign policy. Third he started getting government involved healthcare which was a major fuck up. Right now you have around 40 million on food stamps with only 6 million jobs available. So to act like things were peachy when Trump took office is wrong.

On a relative scale, they were peachy. Unemployment was low. The housing market and stock market were near all time highs. Commodities and interest rates were low. I think his bigger worry was how to make it better and not just let the cycle top and we start to get worse just as a natural thing.

blackmonsters 05-19-2017 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21777649)
Why are you lying?

It says a lot that you don't Google facts before you post licking Trump's ass. You don't even link to backup your claims you just make up a number. Amazing

The unemployment rate when Obama took office was 9.4% according to Bureau of Labor Statistics 2009 unemployment rate

Political debates are a waste of time because people don't care about actual facts like you just posted.
They only care about "making a point" and don't care if they are wrong just as long as they can "shout you down".


You can post a million videos of Bush telling us that the economy is failing but look at Rochard still blaming Obama.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDmPEeurfA

NewNick 05-19-2017 07:19 AM

Amazing how short some peoples memories are.

No president in history has inherited an economy in as bad a mess as Obama. The financial crises was in full swing when he took office.

History will be kind to Obama, he fixed the economy despite the "help" given by his political adversaries.

AndyA 05-19-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777586)
Actually it was 4.7% when Obama took over. In all fairness Obama got handed a mess. He tried i will give you that but failed on several fronts. First he blew up the deficit. Second he totally screwed up on foreign policy. Third he started getting government involved healthcare which was a major fuck up. Right now you have around 40 million on food stamps with only 6 million jobs available. So to act like things were peachy when Trump took office is wrong.


Tampa Toker as much as I love that your in Tampa.... and you Toke..... your a big dummy when it comes to your numbers

Obama inherited a disaster... 10% unemployment and rising, the Wall Street market was at 6000 and we were losing GDP AND BUSH put ALL his wars on credit cards SO HE BLEW UP THE ECONOMY

fucking idiots try to rewrite history... Obama was the finest President this Country EVER had...
Trump is the worst.. do not compare the two

Steve Rupe 05-19-2017 10:36 AM

I will repeat that the Republicans are in total control of the Government so what ever problems Trump has is his own fault, or moving his agenda forward has, is the fault of the Republicans. Also whatever problems the Republicans have moving their agenda forward is the fault of the Republicans.

tony286 05-19-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 21778150)
Political debates are a waste of time because people don't care about actual facts like you just posted.
They only care about "making a point" and don't care if they are wrong just as long as they can "shout you down".


You can post a million videos of Bush telling us that the economy is failing but look at Rochard still blaming Obama.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDmPEeurfA

Dont you realize, Rochard is being sarcastic.

blackmonsters 05-19-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 21778951)
Dont you realize, Rochard is being sarcastic.

LOL! You are right; but plenty of people would say that and be serious.

:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 05-19-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21777535)
Why do you daily blame Democrats for being the cause of the problems the Donald is having with his Presidency. He owns the Executive Branch of Government and the House and Senate as well as, in theory, the Supreme Court is owned by Republicans.

All of the investigations are created by Republicans as well as the call for a Special Prosecutor. Democrats are not blocking anything in the House or Senate because they do not have to power to do so. Any thing not getting passed in the House and Senate is the fault of the Republicans.

Why do you supporters of the Donald not blame who is actually responsible for the Donald's problems?

The Democrats cannot be blamed for anything that is going down with the Donald or the Government as the Domocrats have zero power at this point in time. Historically speaking that will probably change mid term but not before.

I'm not for trump, I'm against you and what ever the fuck you want :thumbsup

Relic 05-19-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 21778951)
Dont you realize, Rochard is being sarcastic.

Rochard is stupid, so his sarcasm comes off as cryptic.

PR_Glen 05-19-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21778942)
I will repeat that the Republicans are in total control of the Government so what ever problems Trump has is his own fault, or moving his agenda forward has, is the fault of the Republicans. Also whatever problems the Republicans have moving their agenda forward is the fault of the Republicans.

well if that is the case he's only really been in office about 4 months or so. I don't like him as a leader in the least or like how he is handling things but not many get things done that fast and the tasks that he did say he would see done aren't exactly over night fixes either.

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Bladewire 05-19-2017 12:10 PM

Like Steve said, Trump has no excuses as his party has 100% control on the House , Senate and Executive branch of government, currently. Trump's executive orders to roll back Obama's executive orders gives ZERO excuses for Republicans.

Hint: Our current political system cycle is Dem POTUS policies for the people & fill the Treasury GOP POTUS policies for big business drain the Treasury. Been like this for decades

C H R I S 05-19-2017 01:28 PM

I was amazed the that Trumpywas able to save all of our jobs, the economy and get rid of all those darn immigrants (not to mention destroy Isisi) in just 30 seconds after taking office.

He is amazing !!!!

Isn't he responsible for our growing economy and this low unemployment ???? He did take credit for it....
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Rochard 05-19-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 21777604)
I see you live in Califorina i mean how great are things when in los angles were 30k plus sleep on the streets nightly.

I see YOU live in Tampa. Which has the highest homeless rate in the country.

Tampa area has nation's highest homelessness rate - CBS News

Thanks for playing.

Rochard 05-19-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21779275)
I was amazed the that Drumpfywas able to save all of our jobs, the economy and get rid of all those darn immigrants (not to mention destroy Isisi) in just 30 seconds after taking office.

He is amazing !!!!

Isn't he responsible for our growing economy and this low unemployment ???? He did take credit for it....
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It's stunning, right? Trump saved all of our jobs. LOL.

Steve Rupe 05-19-2017 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21779008)
well if that is the case he's only really been in office about 4 months or so. I don't like him as a leader in the least or like how he is handling things but not many get things done that fast and the tasks that he did say he would see done aren't exactly over night fixes either.

I understand that but people keep blaming Democrats, especially so called "Conservatives/Republicans" and specifically those on this board, for the problems that he is having pursuing his agenda as well as the problems that Congress is having pursuing their agenda and it is the fault of the Republicans, not Demomcrats because Republicans own the entire Government.

Steve Rupe 05-19-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21778972)
I'm not for trump, I'm against you and what ever the fuck you want :thumbsup

What I want is the best for my country so you are against that?

Steve Rupe 05-19-2017 03:36 PM

The Donald just simply cannot keep his mouth shut and lies virtually every time he opens his mouth. He has a major personality flaw and gives all appearances of not being very bright. Should never have been a nominee for the Presidency let alone elected and this also applies to Hilary. The dumbing down of America in action.

Steve Rupe 05-19-2017 10:27 PM

Now he is running his mouth overseas.

Bladewire 05-19-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21779968)
Now he is running his mouth overseas.

No way, Seriously?

Paul Markham 05-20-2017 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21777535)
Why do you daily blame Democrats for being the cause of the problems the Donald is having with his Presidency. He owns the Executive Branch of Government and the House and Senate as well as, in theory, the Supreme Court is owned by Republicans.

All of the investigations are created by Republicans as well as the call for a Special Prosecutor. Democrats are not blocking anything in the House or Senate because they do not have to power to do so. Any thing not getting passed in the House and Senate is the fault of the Republicans.

Why do you supporters of the Donald not blame who is actually responsible for the Donald's problems?

The Democrats cannot be blamed for anything that is going down with the Donald or the Government as the Domocrats have zero power at this point in time. Historically speaking that will probably change mid term but not before.

Trump was never meant to win. The establishment allowed him to be the GOP nominee expecting Hillary to beat him. Now they want to get their man back in charge and that's Pence.

If you think your votes are more important than billionaires dollars. You need to research why it costs billions to get people elected and the results of that spending.

Paul Markham 05-20-2017 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21777562)
Well, the country was a mess when Trump took over. I mean, the unemployment rate was 4.5% when Trump took over. The economy was clearly caused by Obama, and he failed to fix it after eight years in office.

Why was the economy in a mess who allowed Bankers to run up huge debts, who allows this to happen on a regular basis and who is allowing the same thing to happen again?

Who has allowed American jobs to disappear overseas so Americans can buy the goods they used to produce? Making Banking one of the major US industries.

As for the jobs total. If that figure was correct and the jobs paid decent wages, the US wouldn't be in such a mess. Which is getting worse.

Take off the party blinkers and look at the broader picture.

Paul Markham 05-20-2017 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21777652)
Why are you lying?

What is wrong with you? You do know that homeless from across America get bussed to sunny California right? Nah you have no idea and don't care just lie and assume people won't check. No integrity :1orglaugh

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About 1.56 million people, or about 0.5% of the U.S. population, used an emergency shelter or a transitional housing program between October 1, 2008 and September 30, 2009. Homelessness in the United States increased after the Great Recession in the United States.
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The 2016 count of the homeless population, taken in January, revealed that our county has more than 43,000 people living on the street or in shelters. (Long Beach, Glendale and Pasadena were not included.)
Stop lying TampaToker claiming it's only 30K it's a lot worse. :Oh crap

Steve Rupe 05-20-2017 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21780067)
Trump was never meant to win. The establishment allowed him to be the GOP nominee expecting Hillary to beat him. Now they want to get their man back in charge and that's Pence.

If you think your votes are more important than billionaires dollars. You need to research why it costs billions to get people elected and the results of that spending.

It costs billions because they begin campaigning years out and the costs of advertising their candidate and organizing support groups across the nation is tremendous and almost always the candidate with the best organization and the most money to spend on the media and other sources of advertisement almost always wins the nomination and then the election.


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