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Old 06-07-2010, 02:08 AM   #1
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GFY Educational Series: Generating Hardlinks & Using Strategy Based Linking Tools.

Quick Intro:

I began back in 2004 and shortly afterward found a backdoor into yahoo search results, that initially got me focused on working search engines. Within a few weeks of getting my 'instant' search results with Yahoo search, I had already left my job and began building blogs (weblogs back then) and started to slowly build up a traffic base.

2-3 months after that initial burst from yahoo search, I stumbled on a way to harvest blogs that had been deleted (explained better here) and literally, accumulated several thousand Page Rank of unique sites to start taking over the world with. At the peak with less then a year in the business, and no more then 18 months after buying my first computer, I was pointing links up towards 1,000 new joins a month, with only $100-$120 in expenditures per month.

I did everything by hand, and it was all about links, there was no scripts or tools that I knew of to use. I didn't trade links with webmasters, I didn't buy links, use directories, social sites, or any of the tools that we have available today to increase our link dynamics and footprints.

Now, today, we have several options, several different ways for us adult webmasters to generate links to our own sites. There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of websites in adult that are wishing they had a little more link power, wishing they had a few more contacts in a trade list, and wishing they were higher in search results. It is a harder go then it was many years ago, but that's just natural competition and industry evolution, fortunately for us, there are tools to help us along now.

So here we are, how to generate hardlinks and use strategy based linking tools.

S.E.O. and Hard Links

First off, we should quickly touch on importance of hardlinks to your search results, and just how do the search engines count or value links? A lot of people will tell you that they count them like votes, or consider them 'recommendations' but I have a cooler analogy, and it makes how Google sees and considers links, very simple to understand.

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Google has been invited to a party - in fact not just a party, but a fat dicks party, and there is going to be 10,000 guests (sites) there. When Google arrives (spiders) at the party, they immediately begin to ask around "Hey there! Where's all the fat dicks?" and a few guys (sites) that they don't really know, tell them "LLajtamasiNews has them!"

Google doesn't really know or trust these guys (sites) so they listen, but don't really give it any weight, and continue to browse through the crowd, meeting people, and asking where the fat dicks are. Then they bump into a couple guys (sites) that they go WAY BACK WITH, these guys (sites) have been to all the fat dick parties for years. And they both tell Google, "LLajtamasiNews" has the fat dicks man!".

Now Google is listening, and acting. Not only have some random people (sites) told them LLajtamasiNews is where the fat dicks are, but their old friends (trusted sites) have confirmed it as well. Now Google has no doubt where to go (rank) for fat dicks.
Now in that example the Fat Dicks site is LlajtamasiNews and the trusted sites (guys they go way back with) are sites like debauchery, jays-xxx-links and hoes.com. Real, actual trusted sites that should make a difference and have a long history of rankings and trust built up.

Now Google did not just hand out the rank for a few links on trusted sites. If they had 'walked into that party' and not heard a single blurb about Fat Dicks or LlajtamasiNews, they would never have given it full consideration. You want to be spread out across a variety of authoritative sites, newer sites, mid-range sites etc, just like it should look for any naturally growing site.

Authoritative? Trusted? Mid-range?

Can we cue the analogy maker again? Thanks!

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Google needs to fix the truck that delivers search results. They have a few options.
  • Mechanic 1 - Years experience, trusted, well recommended from trusted people, worked on this very same vehicle for years.
  • Mechanic 2 - New, fresh out of school, knows everything about the truck, and the most current technology. But has never worked on vehicle (right out of school)
  • Mechanic 3 - Your neighbor, behind his shed, on the grass, laying on cardboard cause his garage is full of broken bikes and rusted cars.
Obviously #1 is your aged, trusted or authoritative domain. #2 is your newer site, but even if itís perfect, itís still not to be trusted yet, Google's gotten too many shitty deals from these sites in the past. And then lastly #3 is your lesser valued site. Your mid-range sites can be any combination of these, or in transition from one to the other.

You don't want to remove any of them from your arsenal, you want to use links from all of them to get the job done. Nobody just has 'trusted' sites linking to them, it would make sense that would set off a flag.

Mechanics, Fat Dick Parties, WTF?

Relating this to something simple, that we all know, makes it much easier to understand. You want to know exactly how I get top spots for search results? I go to those parties, and bring my own friends and mechanics (links).

Sounds nuts, but listen. There is 10k results in any given search at Google. So to be a contender all you need to do is be in those 10k results. Then it's a popularity contest. How many sites are going to lead Google to you, and tell them you are the fat dick guy? How can you get all these sites/guys to mention you?

Well for starters, never 'party' alone. If I'm packing up for the 'fat dicks' party I'm bringing 200 of my own friends (links). I'm not going to count on the fact that enough other sites have recommended me, because letís be honest, it isn't happening. I'm going to strut my Fat Dick around show up with 200-400 maybe 600 of my own friends (links) at that 10k party.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:09 AM   #2
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Alright, isn't this about tools?

Yes indeed it is, but those tools would be useless without understanding WHY we need them, and now we can focus on which tools, and HOW to use them.

First thing I'm going to say is I am not a fan of automated systems. I am a fan of efficiency and effectiveness. I will go into detail about a couple tools or systems, and mention a few more. I tend to not use anything that may leave a footprint as I KNOW Google is like the Mother In Law, something you did 3 years ago, WILL be remembered and held against you in 5 years. I'm going to focus on SAFE link generation, and strategies to do it.

The tools, get on with it!

Alright, we have a few different types of tools/systems/sites that we can generate trades with. We have tools that can track trades, tools that can find trades, tools that add trades, and even a couple tools that do all the above. I am going to focus on 2 main types of link tracking tools, self hosted/maintained, and community browser based, and go into each a little bit.

Links Organizer

An old school favorite, and still active and updated script is Links Organizer. This is a great self hosted script that will allow you have a sign up form available online with a database of all your sites you'd like to trade with. You can set up auto linking , lay out your sites by niche, track and maintain your own existing trades from one admin.

Links Organizer is used by hundreds (if not thousands) of webmasters, and I've noticed many users of other tools still use their trusted Links Organizer. This says an awful lot about the script itself, and how happy its users are. The advantages to this script is the ease of use, auto functions, having a trade list live for webmasters to view and data that it allows you to add for each domain you add.

www.LinkSpun.com

LinkSpun is a little different then Links Organizer, and the main difference is that Linkspun and other tools like it (thunder-ball, jaystrades) are community browser based systems that allow you to enter your sites into the niche databases, and allow other webmasters to request links from you. The instant advantage to using tools like this is that you do not need to drive traffic to your trade page to reap rewards of incoming trade requests. And possibly more importantly, they often have hundreds of webmasters looking for link trades everyday

These tools will allow you to browse niche lists, and see active websites that are currently looking to do link trades, and then with a quick back and forth, you do your link trade, and add links. Linkspun, jaystrades and t-ball will all continue to monitor all live trades you have added.

Newer tools or communities like www.linkspun.com are trying to deliver more relevant trades to users by allowing them to sort and view data on websites like Page Rank, Internal Pages, Outbound Links, Niche, User, activity etc. This allows you to develop an actual strategy, a game plan to target out the links you need and focus them onto targets you see fit.

So what's the strategy part?

Alright, trading strategies. Let's start out about understanding some basic strategy here. First off, when thinking of links, it’s always better to build feeders with intent to trade, then intent to link yourself up. Think of it like this, if you have 50 websites and want to rank 1 for fat dicks, the chances of you successfully covering your tracks and linking all your stuff to yourself and having it work are very slim. Even if you do succeed, you've got 50 inbound links.

Now if you take them same 50 sites, and commit to generating 20 link trades across them and get the RETURN links pointed to the site you want to rank, you've gained 1000 inbound links.

50 links from own sites < 1000 unique back links from outside websites you don't own.


How the hell do I generate, and monitor 1000 link trades?

Ok, we are on to the fun part now. If you don't have any tools for trading, it's not going to be an easy task, even if you are an Excel geek. So first off you should familiarize yourself with the few good tools available. You can buy a copy of L.O. and sign up at www.linkspun.com (LS is a free service without any limits) and begin to add your site.

For Links Organizer, make sure to completely fill out the domain pages, add quality descriptions and explain exactly what you are looking for, there won't be much back and forth or communication with most traders here, so be thorough on your rules and details. You will want to add your domain profile link to places that will get webmasters to view it, so combing forums and link request threads is a great place to start.

You will notice the longer you use this, the bigger your return becomes as many webmasters will return to your page to check out for more trades. Keep things legit, keep links live, and actively police the links for lesser quality sites being added.

For LinkSpun and other browser based systems, you want to make sure you approach this with smarts. Think about utilizing the site and its traffic (all webmasters looking for trades) to your advantage. Think about getting your URLS and profiles viewed by as many link hunting webmasters a day.
  1. Add your pages and categorize them into the most relevant niche(s). This is very important, if someone is looking for schoolgirl links, you want your schoolgirl feeder site or trade site to appear and get a request.
  2. Systematically build or find pages on your sites that fit into most or all categories and add them to your profile. Most of these tools list sites for trade by last logged in. So if you can effectively add a page or site to each category, every time you log in you are the 1st person another webmaster sees, no matter which category he loads.
  3. Be active and be yourself on any of these sites. Use your industry nick, you will get more requests if people recognize you.
  4. Respond to requests promptly, add links immediately once agreement is made, you don't want anyone to Block you and pass your name off to their friends as someone to not trade with, we want to maximize our returns, not jeopardize them
  5. Hide your 'money sites'. The sites you want to get ranked and aren't offering links on, hide them so nobody can see them. You can still get links pointed TO a hidden site, it’s just available in lists for requests.
  6. Target out your most probable keyterms, and start asking for links to it, when others get your requests they will look through your available sites and request one back.
  7. Utilize multiple or stacked trades. This allows you to link trade from your pr4 or higher quality site, with a user who has a handful of pr2 sites. You simply make a multiple trade request asking for 3 of his pr2 links, for one of your pr4 (or whatever you think is fit).
  8. Login everyday, both to answer requests but also to bump your pages to the top of every category list. Working all day? Refresh it and keep yourself up and see how much your incoming requests increases.

Now the key thing when using these tools is that we need to have adult webmasters browsing over our trade pages. We want to have a constant supply of incoming link requests, to buffer our own outgoing requests.

With 50-60 domains added on any of the browser based tools, and my domains sorted properly, I get about 180-200 hard link requests a month. This is without doing anything but logging in every few days to keep my pages high in the sites lists, and to check requests. I like to also browse this very forums Link Trade forum, and also have about 8-10 other webmaster boards bookmarked for the same reason, extra link trades.

Sum it up already?

Ok so basically, we learned the importance of hardlinks, and how Google and other engines value them. That gives us a decent base of knowledge to start generating our own and not hurt ourselves by doing so. We saw how 2 simple tools can incredibly boost our link efforts, and give us total control over what is linking to us, and to where.

S.E.O isn't rocket science. I spent the first 15 years of my working life as a contractor, and was almost whale status less than 2 years after first logging into the internet. Things have slowed down now but not enough to scare me away from the industry, it is what I do now.

I'll be following this up and replying to all questions, and giving examples where I can to better illustrate if I've missed something. Sorry about the length, there was a lot of ground to cover before I got to the 'meat'.

I'm not sure if there are many people that know any of the browser based link trading systems more than I do. I've been a very active user of a few, and due to wanting the 'end all be all' trade system, I had LinkSpun coded and we have only one intention, to be the biggest database of adult webmasters and websites looking for trades, one big link party.

About Jdoughs - John has been an adult webmaster pursuing search engine traffic for over 6 years. Most recently behind the creation of www.linkspun.com, a free adult link trading community, he has finally put his link generation strategies and tools into play for all adult webmasters to utilize.
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Awesome Tutorial, Jdoughs! Love the analogies too.
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Good read - nice to read from a man who knows.
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Excellent post mate, the best in the series by far, backed up by real world examples.
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Thanks J. Great Article and Thumbs Up for LinkSpun.Com!
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Nice write up of the basics.
Linkspun is a great service. Hope you add LO style functionality to it soon ;)
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Awesome Tutorial, Jdoughs! Love the analogies too.
Thanks, a few here have already heard the analogies but they have always got the point across well so I figured I'd share them, glad you enjoyed them.

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Good read - nice to read from a man who knows.
Thank you man!

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Excellent post mate, the best in the series by far, backed up by real world examples.
Not sure about best but let's see what discussion we get going and where we end up and who knows. Thanks!

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Thanks J. Great Article and Thumbs Up for www.LinkSpun.Com !
Woot, I fixed that quote so it was a link..lol Thanks man.

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Nice write up of the basics.
Linkspun is a great service. Hope you add LO style functionality to it soon ;)
Thank you, it would have been 10k words if I dived to deep
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Thanks for writing that up. Reminds me of back in the day playing with free host accounts, my own free host etc etc etc...

I just wish I took that knowledge and applied it forward like yourself...


On a side note, what do you consider the next "blogger"... The next trick? If you've found it already just say that. I love knowing something out there is working and being exploited. Makes the hunt much more fun.
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Jdoughs knows his stuff when it comes to link generating.
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Nice writeup Jdoughs...
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Thanks for writing that up. Reminds me of back in the day playing with free host accounts, my own free host etc etc etc...

I just wish I took that knowledge and applied it forward like yourself...


On a side note, what do you consider the next "blogger"... The next trick? If you've found it already just say that. I love knowing something out there is working and being exploited. Makes the hunt much more fun.
There still is new and 'exciting' ways to do it every day. But the hunt is much more suited for newer hungrier webmasters then old fellas like myself. But since that fateful day 6 years ago when I found my 2 'ins' there has been several methods found. Both blackhat and white, that focus on link generation.(mostly blackhat)

Some of the new approaches (last 4-5 years) that some people have made a lifes worth of money off are:
  • Google bombs and Google brute force links
  • Dropped domains
  • Referrer spamming
  • Blog comments and wp-hacks
  • Markov content generation scripts
  • WP-Hacks and takeovers
  • Domain hacks and takeovers
  • RSS feeds
  • Every popular freehost/blog system has been exploited for back link purposes
  • Cloaking, both page and link
  • Automated backlink scripts
  • 302 redirect bugs and 302 serp takeovers
  • Link Wheels
  • Page Rank sculpting
  • Social Site spamming

Feel free to add any that you know of.
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There still is new and 'exciting' ways to do it every day. But the hunt is much more suited for newer hungrier webmasters then old fellas like myself. But since that fateful day 6 years ago when I found my 2 'ins' there has been several methods found. Both blackhat and white, that focus on link generation.(mostly blackhat)

Some of the new approaches (last 4-5 years) that some people have made a lifes worth of money off are:
  • Google bombs and Google brute force links
  • Dropped domains
  • Referrer spamming
  • Blog comments and wp-hacks
  • Markov content generation scripts
  • WP-Hacks and takeovers
  • Domain hacks and takeovers
  • RSS feeds
  • Every popular freehost/blog system has been exploited for back link purposes
  • Cloaking, both page and link
  • Automated backlink scripts
  • 302 redirect bugs and 302 serp takeovers
  • Link Wheels
  • Page Rank sculpting
  • Social Site spamming

Feel free to add any that you know of.
  • Sponsor free hosting
  • Self piracy
  • Back door forum accounts
  • Geoip hidden links on those forums
  • Social profile spamming
  • Blog Commenting and Comment spamming
  • Video spamming
  • And the easiest of them all, buying links.
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Pirate your own content for the purpose of traffic, link building and branding of your own products. You can't control branding, links, traffic, etc if you aren't doing it yourself. Forums for example... if you're doing it, they will make sure others aren't - if you ask.
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ah thanks. not a bad idea.
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  • Sponsor free hosting
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  • Social profile spamming
  • Blog Commenting and Comment spamming
  • Video spamming
  • And the easiest of them all, buying links.
The bizarre part is that all of these things will still produce results in the right application, they may not last long, but to this day almost all of these will produce serps. One of the earliest forms of SE spamming, guestbook spam, is getting pages in top 10 for 'porn'.

As testament to the fact that it's never all about any one thing, but the big picture. You play your cards right in most aspects and you can spam/take advantage of things in other aspects.
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One of the earliest forms of SE spamming, guestbook spam, is getting pages in top 10 for 'porn'.
that one was bounced, although i am finding sites using the same technique all over tons of adult serps.
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that one was bounced, although i am finding sites using the same technique all over tons of adult serps.
Yeah some of his others have bumped me on a couple serps.
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Very nice article. I'm just starting in the adult world and I decided I was going to take one site - hand build it - write every post myself - avoid automation with trades etc. and focus all my attention on this one site. Do you think this is wise, or is it better to just mass produce and create multiple blogs/sites?
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J, that was an excellent post. Thank you. Very informative. I have an account at linkspun.
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Good one man. I'm using www.Linkspun.com daily now.
Thanks, if you have any suggestions or things you 'wish' you could do, please hit me up on ICQ. I'm open and expecting suggestions from users to build it up.
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Completely agree, for many years now my business life has evolved around them as the axis.
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Very nice article. I'm just starting in the adult world and I decided I was going to take one site - hand build it - write every post myself - avoid automation with trades etc. and focus all my attention on this one site. Do you think this is wise, or is it better to just mass produce and create multiple blogs/sites?
I think you are certainly on the right path. As far as search engines go you want to stand out from the other 10,000 sites they chose to show in their results, let alone the million that may mention your keyterms.

One of the best pieces of advice I was given, and have passed on is this little gem.

'It's Google's mandate to spider,cache, and serve up for searching every single piece of information on the internet, BUT the thing to remember is that they only need each piece of info once'

If you hand write your own sites you can ensure that your content is worth them coming for, just because its unique. Once you have them coming for your unique info/insight/text/updates you've got them coming and as long as you keep feeding them UNIQUE, RELEVANT information, they will continue coming and your strength (in their eyes) will continue grow.

Naturally content isn't everything, and if nobody else out there regards you as a source for that content (to back it up) they won't take much notice past that. This is were smart link building comes into play, and also where the other type of site (automated, rss feeds etc) comes into play. Now it would be nice to start backing things up and getting some links inbound from relevant sites.

Now I wouldn't recommend building 30 other smaller sites and linking them all to yourself, instead, follow the plan of building those feeders for link trades.

While a link on a lesser value pr1 rss fed sex machinery blog may not be a 'beauty link' for you, it is for a guy hunting out sex machine links. So this is a great candidate to offer a trade (or get a request) to link trade with this guy, and get a relevant return link to your money site. Your hand wrote site.

As I said above, you can get real strong value and weight behind a handful of feeder sites if you build them with intent to trade links. You dont build weak spammy garbage to trade with either, make some nice blogs, that look sharp and aren't junky at all, submit to a couple of known directories for initial spidering and page rank, and add them to trade lists.

You can generate 15-20 links a year from these feeders and have them all 'boost' your main hand wrote, or money site.

And something that a lot of people are missing out on is this fact, trading links is a way to do something the competitors aren't. A lot of competitive terms seemed to be full up top of strategic link builders. This is something you can do that they aren't, its a way to get your links on sites that they can't.

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J, that was an excellent post. Thank you. Very informative. I have an account at linkspun.
Thanks I'm glad to hear it, but I hope this isn't just about linkspun
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Very nice article. I'm just starting in the adult world and I decided I was going to take one site - hand build it - write every post myself - avoid automation with trades etc. and focus all my attention on this one site. Do you think this is wise, or is it better to just mass produce and create multiple blogs/sites?
There's different school's but one doesn't rule out the other. Why not start a couple of more blogs that you trade links from to your main one? Just like the "linking strategy" Jdoughs is talking about in this series.
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There's different school's but one doesn't rule out the other. Why not start a couple of more blogs that you trade links from to your main one? Just like the "linking strategy" Jdoughs is talking about in this series.
lol beat ya to it

I must have been replying while you were.
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lol beat ya to it

I must have been replying while you were.
Yep seem's so

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Thanks, if you have any suggestions or things you 'wish' you could do, please hit me up on ICQ. I'm open and expecting suggestions from users to build it up.
I'll hit ya on icq later but one initial thing that I would like to see is the ability to choose which domains people can get a trade back from when you request a trade, right now all I can set is a PR block.

Let's say I want to trade a link to my teen blog and I have 5 other blogs in mind that I can recip from to him or any other of his sites instead of my whole domain list.
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I think you are certainly on the right path. As far as search engines go you want to stand out from the other 10,000 sites they chose to show in their results, let alone the million that may mention your keyterms.

One of the best pieces of advice I was given, and have passed on is this little gem.

'It's Google's mandate to spider,cache, and serve up for searching every single piece of information on the internet, BUT the thing to remember is that they only need each piece of info once'

If you hand write your own sites you can ensure that your content is worth them coming for, just because its unique. Once you have them coming for your unique info/insight/text/updates you've got them coming and as long as you keep feeding them UNIQUE, RELEVANT information, they will continue coming and your strength (in their eyes) will continue grow.

Naturally content isn't everything, and if nobody else out there regards you as a source for that content (to back it up) they won't take much notice past that. This is were smart link building comes into play, and also where the other type of site (automated, rss feeds etc) comes into play. Now it would be nice to start backing things up and getting some links inbound from relevant sites.

Now I wouldn't recommend building 30 other smaller sites and linking them all to yourself, instead, follow the plan of building those feeders for link trades.

While a link on a lesser value pr1 rss fed sex machinery blog may not be a 'beauty link' for you, it is for a guy hunting out sex machine links. So this is a great candidate to offer a trade (or get a request) to link trade with this guy, and get a relevant return link to your money site. Your hand wrote site.

As I said above, you can get real strong value and weight behind a handful of feeder sites if you build them with intent to trade links. You dont build weak spammy garbage to trade with either, make some nice blogs, that look sharp and aren't junky at all, submit to a couple of known directories for initial spidering and page rank, and add them to trade lists.

You can generate 15-20 links a year from these feeders and have them all 'boost' your main hand wrote, or money site.

And something that a lot of people are missing out on is this fact, trading links is a way to do something the competitors aren't. A lot of competitive terms seemed to be full up top of strategic link builders. This is something you can do that they aren't, its a way to get your links on sites that they can't.
Thanks so much. I never expected such a detailed response. Singed up for linkspun, but I need to spend a few more days getting the site ready before I really start to promote it and start seeking out trades.

I was thinking of maybe offering spots in the 'featured' section where I would list your ref code (for maybe a month or 2) for a hard link on a PR2+ site since I have no PR yet. Do you think that would appeal to anyone?
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Thanks so much. I never expected such a detailed response. Singed up for linkspun, but I need to spend a few more days getting the site ready before I really start to promote it and start seeking out trades.

I was thinking of maybe offering spots in the 'featured' section where I would list your ref code (for maybe a month or 2) for a hard link on a PR2+ site since I have no PR yet. Do you think that would appeal to anyone?
PR doesn't mean much. Your PR will come if you keep adding quality in-links and content to your site. Focus on writing unique text and getting trades.
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Make high quality sites. Forget PR and the rest. Contact s few webmasters using linkspun (including me, I'm in there as Relentless). Mention you are building a new network of high quality exclusive hand written sites but need a few links to get it going. I'm sure some, including me, will send you a few quality links.

One think this writeup didn't mention is that search engines also judge sites on new people they bring to the party. Linking my quality site to you PR0 site will eventually get me some credit with google if and when your PR0 becomes a PR3 or PR4 etc... It's a way for engines to thank me for helping them find you.... but only if your site actually grows over time. ;)

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Thanks so much. I never expected such a detailed response. Singed up for linkspun, but I need to spend a few more days getting the site ready before I really start to promote it and start seeking out trades.

I was thinking of maybe offering spots in the 'featured' section where I would list your ref code (for maybe a month or 2) for a hard link on a PR2+ site since I have no PR yet. Do you think that would appeal to anyone?
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Awesome read man, seriously thanks.
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Wow, this is like the most informative post I've ever read on gfy! lol
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Make high quality sites. Forget PR and the rest. Contact s few webmasters using linkspun (including me, I'm in there as Relentless). Mention you are building a new network of high quality exclusive hand written sites but need a few links to get it going. I'm sure some, including me, will send you a few quality links.

One think this writeup didn't mention is that search engines also judge sites on new people they bring to the party. Linking my quality site to you PR0 site will eventually get me some credit with google if and when your PR0 becomes a PR3 or PR4 etc... It's a way for engines to thank me for helping them find you.... but only if your site actually grows over time. ;)
Thanks for the advice and the very nice offer. I will contact you later in the week when i am 100%
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page rank is the dna of google. if you don;t understand how it works you are a fool.
Correct in a sense but what I assume most people mean(atleast I) when they say that PR doesn't matter is that you should not focus on PR. Your focus should be on getting natural(atleast looking) in-links and writing good unique content. I have pr0's making more $ and doing better in the serps than some pr3's.
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Now why does this fat man show up in all my threads

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Is that what all Canadians look to you Cunning folk?
I thought he was a character on that show you watch.

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Thanks for this very informative post! A few questions for you:

1) Is it worth starting up lets say 20 (or more) free host blogs and filling them with original content, maybe update at least once a month, and then linking back to the money sites with specific keywords (I noticed that for the Fat Dicks site there were some Blogspot backlinks)? Also, will anyone trade with free host sites on Link Spun and other trade sites?

2) How far can I go with the ABC linking strategy? Meaning, if I am linking off of 10 or so of my own blogs in order to point hundreds of links back to a main money site, how many outgoing links should I allow on those blogs? As long as those blogs have original content and are updated at least monthly or so is that sufficient as far as not having to worry about the amount of outgoing links? Also should I get a handful of reciprocal links on those blogs first before looking to do ABC trades with them or is submitting to some directories sufficient?

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