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PHmike · 01-14-2003, 12:19 AM

DMR - $900,000
IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live

Who can beat that?

pr0 · 01-14-2003, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PHmike
DMR - $900,000
IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live

Who can beat that?

50,000 niteline, ok so its not 2,000,000

LunaC · 01-14-2003, 07:03 AM

Just once, for ~$800

bhutocracy · 01-14-2003, 07:18 AM

2 times in the past 2 months. both clients, about $1600.

Jakke PNG · 01-14-2003, 07:47 AM

Plenty, and plenty of times.. luckily for just small sums like 200$, 400$, 700$...
but quite quickly they add up. I think I should have made around $3k more last year from my designs than I actually made.

What great business this is.. such honesty.

Brad Mitchell · 01-14-2003, 08:17 AM

Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win..

Brad

vegasdude · 01-14-2003, 08:22 AM

well this one time at campus

lets just say $XX.XXX on internet casinos run by criminals. Im so lucky I found a casino I can trust cuz I was starting to feel the paranoia!

lost a few on stupid sponsors also....

but it all turned out good

The end. (turning up audioslave)

Slussar · 01-14-2003, 01:47 PM

I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my

and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

FlyingIguana · 01-14-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slussar
I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.

Brad Mitchell · 01-14-2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slussar
I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

You know nothing.

Slussar · 01-14-2003, 04:13 PM

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.

Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

Slussar · 01-14-2003, 04:51 PM

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.

Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

bignosejimmy · 01-14-2003, 05:04 PM

Dmr

And

Primeinternet. Don't ever deal with these people. Their scripts don't work, they have horrible tech support, they don't return your calls or answer your emails and they continued to charge me after I canceled for a product that was working half the time. They are also one of Ibill's preferred partners, that should give you a good indication of how well they operate!

PHmike · 01-14-2003, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win..

Brad

I know of some worse cases than us, but I don't think they post here.

originalheather · 01-14-2003, 06:52 PM

Years ago by the Adult Candy people who were running a fly-by-night processing business for my old phone sex service. Screwed me out of a couple grand. I think everyone on the net was screwed by them if they were dumb enough to do business with them. I admit to being dumb.

WTSbank, aka ACHdebit, they deliberately shut off my checking processing with about 5 days notice over a fuckup with security on their scripts which was causing easy hacking and running my bandwidth through the ceiling, plus they weren't expiring cancels, which happened too many times to count. They didn't want to reimburse my costs for fixing the mess, so they shut me down over about 900 bucks after 3 years of proccessing, backing them up when they lost their merchant account and promoting them vigorously for zip in commissions that whole time. They see it differently. but I lost about 1500 a month in recurrings that were so old the sufers had forgotten they belonged. Only got about 5 back. This was about 6 months ago, at a time I sure couldn't afford to lose the income. Incredibly, they were all sweet to me in Vegas and still are suffering under the delusion that they did nothing wrong, though Chuck admitted that they had permissions set wrong, etc. They've threatened to sue me if I spoke out. I'd suggest they do so. Can't be convicted for telling the truth.

Ibill, who can't seem to get their stats right. They disagree, I say they still owe me.

Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.

Every dialer I ever used..they always found some lame excuse not to pay. I haven't used one lately, I hear there are some good ones now.

Shaved? Hah, hard to prove, but it's been blatantly obvious with a shocking percentage of sponsors. I'm not naming names with this one, cause I have no proof.

Taken in perspective, it's been a very small percentage of my income over the years, but it's never fun being fucked over. It's just a risk we run being in a business where a certain percentage of people were probably criminals in their previous dealings, most of us should consider ourselves lucky that it didn't happen more.

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 06:54 PM

one word!

clickcash

12clicks · 01-16-2003, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron
2 times since 98, not bad. Once by All Clicks and once by some click prog Brad Shaw used to run, can't even remember the name.

hahaha, how did I miss this?
dveron, what was the site you where sending allclicks traffic from?

dantheman · 01-16-2003, 01:08 PM

three letters

DMR for a ton

oh well, live and learn

L0stMind · 01-16-2003, 01:56 PM

Many times, but only twice for big money...

a german client in 2000 for like $80k and recently by another client for like $35k.

I gotta stop being so nice to people.

alibaba · 01-16-2003, 02:15 PM

I'm glad to have a chance to write this

Epoch - $25.000 in it's bad days, but it still hurts,

Primenetwork.net - They just cut the plug to my server and tease me when I say I'll not host for them by the next months, so childish,

A dutch lawyer fucked up my $3000 promising to open 3 offshore companies for me,

A bastard tried to sell my offshore company on EBay,

well there are more, but this maybe enough...

angelsofporn · 01-16-2003, 02:55 PM

i got screwed last week for the first time in this biz..they will remain nameless but you can find the thread easily..only a couple grand..could have ben worse

12clicks · 01-17-2003, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by originalheather

Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.

you're still around you lying piece of shit?
after burning as many bridges as you have, I'm surprized you still have an internet connection.

I'm amazed at the abilities of complete morons to hang around in this business.

Dveron · 01-17-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

hahaha, how did I miss this?
dveron, what was the site you where sending allclicks traffic from?

I dunno it was like 2 years ago, like I said before Ron I wrote it off as charitable donation.

12clicks · 01-17-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron

I dunno it was like 2 years ago, like I said before Ron I wrote it off as charitable donation.

you should think of it as more of a fine for not doing the right thing.

chupacabra · 01-17-2003, 01:24 PM

does the word "TransCharge" mean anything to anyone here? screwed us out of thousands, i hope noone else here has also had the misfortune to have dealt w/ those guys..

Thumbelina · 01-17-2003, 01:33 PM

Twice last year, one a ripoff artist selling a bogus site.........from Isreal.........made no bones about it ........he cruised forums for people wanting to by sites etc.................He told us that he had no problem ripping people off...............1k

The other one is a Fellow Canadian that promised to sell his site half up front , half when site was transfered...............when I wired him the money ......he backed out and demanded more money...........We cancelled the deal and he would not return the money back..............

The worst thing is that he still deals on this forum and said that we could try anything to get it back...............

He is from Winnipeg..........and is a total jackass...........

Mojo · 01-17-2003, 01:35 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>
Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.
>>>>>>>>>>>

Heather,
DMR was a 3rd party processor that went out of business 3 years ago. There were no recurrings. All billing ceased.

Please explain exactly how you paidreccurings on billings that were not processed. You can't because you are a liar.

BTW: I still have your email about your wish that my children would die in a car accident in the Ferrari. You're a class act.

andrew1009 · 01-17-2003, 01:41 PM

INTERGAL still owes me about $400 from Oct. I'm also still waiting on a SexyAVS check for $60... from a couple months ago.

railz · 01-17-2003, 02:04 PM

So far I'm up to about $4000 in designs and layouts. Since I changed to 100% up-front for new clients, not one single problem.

01-14-2003, 07:47 AM	#55
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,305	Plenty, and plenty of times.. luckily for just small sums like 200$, 400$, 700$... but quite quickly they add up. I think I should have made around $3k more last year from my designs than I actually made. What great business this is.. such honesty. __________________ ..and I'm off.

01-14-2003, 08:17 AM	#56
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,728	Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win.. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 69 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

01-14-2003, 08:22 AM	#57
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	well this one time at campus lets just say $XX.XXX on internet casinos run by criminals. Im so lucky I found a casino I can trust cuz I was starting to feel the paranoia! lost a few on stupid sponsors also.... but it all turned out good The end. (turning up audioslave) __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!" Last edited by vegasdude; 01-14-2003 at 08:23 AM..

01-14-2003, 06:52 PM	#65
originalheather Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Antonio Del Mar, Baja California, Mexico Posts: 17	Years ago by the Adult Candy people who were running a fly-by-night processing business for my old phone sex service. Screwed me out of a couple grand. I think everyone on the net was screwed by them if they were dumb enough to do business with them. I admit to being dumb. WTSbank, aka ACHdebit, they deliberately shut off my checking processing with about 5 days notice over a fuckup with security on their scripts which was causing easy hacking and running my bandwidth through the ceiling, plus they weren't expiring cancels, which happened too many times to count. They didn't want to reimburse my costs for fixing the mess, so they shut me down over about 900 bucks after 3 years of proccessing, backing them up when they lost their merchant account and promoting them vigorously for zip in commissions that whole time. They see it differently. but I lost about 1500 a month in recurrings that were so old the sufers had forgotten they belonged. Only got about 5 back. This was about 6 months ago, at a time I sure couldn't afford to lose the income. Incredibly, they were all sweet to me in Vegas and still are suffering under the delusion that they did nothing wrong, though Chuck admitted that they had permissions set wrong, etc. They've threatened to sue me if I spoke out. I'd suggest they do so. Can't be convicted for telling the truth. Ibill, who can't seem to get their stats right. They disagree, I say they still owe me. Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters. Every dialer I ever used..they always found some lame excuse not to pay. I haven't used one lately, I hear there are some good ones now. Shaved? Hah, hard to prove, but it's been blatantly obvious with a shocking percentage of sponsors. I'm not naming names with this one, cause I have no proof. Taken in perspective, it's been a very small percentage of my income over the years, but it's never fun being fucked over. It's just a risk we run being in a business where a certain percentage of people were probably criminals in their previous dealings, most of us should consider ourselves lucky that it didn't happen more. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-14-2003, 06:54 PM	#66
PostWhore Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,720	one word! clickcash __________________ Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

01-14-2003, 12:19 AM	#51
PHmike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 71	DMR - $900,000 IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live Who can beat that?

01-14-2003, 07:03 AM	#53
LunaC Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 148	Just once, for ~$800

01-14-2003, 07:18 AM	#54
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,216	2 times in the past 2 months. both clients, about $1600.

01-14-2003, 01:47 PM	#58
Slussar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mi Posts: 6	I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

01-14-2003, 04:13 PM	#61
Slussar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mi Posts: 6	not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a merchant account for any online business. let alone porn. Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

01-14-2003, 04:51 PM	#62
Slussar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mi Posts: 6	not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a merchant account for any online business. let alone porn. Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

01-14-2003, 05:04 PM	#63
bignosejimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: B.C, Canada Posts: 136	Dmr And Primeinternet. Don't ever deal with these people. Their scripts don't work, they have horrible tech support, they don't return your calls or answer your emails and they continued to charge me after I canceled for a product that was working half the time. They are also one of Ibill's preferred partners, that should give you a good indication of how well they operate!

01-16-2003, 01:08 PM	#68
dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	three letters DMR for a ton oh well, live and learn __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com

01-16-2003, 01:56 PM	#69
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	Many times, but only twice for big money... a german client in 2000 for like $80k and recently by another client for like $35k. I gotta stop being so nice to people. __________________ http://cashcore.com - Make Money. http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

01-16-2003, 02:15 PM	#70
alibaba Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Not too far Posts: 89	I'm glad to have a chance to write this Epoch - $25.000 in it's bad days, but it still hurts, Primenetwork.net - They just cut the plug to my server and tease me when I say I'll not host for them by the next months, so childish, A dutch lawyer fucked up my $3000 promising to open 3 offshore companies for me, A bastard tried to sell my offshore company on EBay, well there are more, but this maybe enough...

01-16-2003, 02:55 PM	#71
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	i got screwed last week for the first time in this biz..they will remain nameless but you can find the thread easily..only a couple grand..could have ben worse

01-17-2003, 01:24 PM	#75
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	does the word "TransCharge" mean anything to anyone here? screwed us out of thousands, i hope noone else here has also had the misfortune to have dealt w/ those guys..

01-17-2003, 01:33 PM	#76
Thumbelina Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 675	Twice last year, one a ripoff artist selling a bogus site.........from Isreal.........made no bones about it ........he cruised forums for people wanting to by sites etc.................He told us that he had no problem ripping people off...............1k The other one is a Fellow Canadian that promised to sell his site half up front , half when site was transfered...............when I wired him the money ......he backed out and demanded more money...........We cancelled the deal and he would not return the money back.............. The worst thing is that he still deals on this forum and said that we could try anything to get it back............... He is from Winnipeg..........and is a total jackass........... __________________ <a href="http://www.bimbolinks.com"><img src="http://www.12circle.com/banners/bimbo_120x60.jpg"border="0"></a><BR>

01-17-2003, 01:35 PM	#77
Mojo Used to be a Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 356	>>>>>>>>>>> Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters. >>>>>>>>>>> Heather, DMR was a 3rd party processor that went out of business 3 years ago. There were no recurrings. All billing ceased. Please explain exactly how you paidreccurings on billings that were not processed. You can't because you are a liar. BTW: I still have your email about your wish that my children would die in a car accident in the Ferrari. You're a class act. __________________ -12clicks wears fancy boots.

01-17-2003, 01:41 PM	#78
andrew1009 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 801	INTERGAL still owes me about $400 from Oct. I'm also still waiting on a SexyAVS check for $60... from a couple months ago.

01-17-2003, 02:04 PM	#79
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	So far I'm up to about $4000 in designs and layouts. Since I changed to 100% up-front for new clients, not one single problem. __________________ This Space for Rent