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Old 09-24-2010, 08:55 PM   #1
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:mad TNACash Aron does not pay

I've been emailing and icqing Aron from TNACash for about 9 months now, about paying my account on TNACash Nats

At first he says he'll look into it, and make sure I'm paid (which he always used to actually do after only 3-5months late, but now 9 months is enough)

Aron, keep my money

I will make sure everyone knows that if they push your sites that you will not pay



Even today I gave you 1 last chance on icq to reply to me, and you didn't take that opportunity
I even offered to let you buy out my account, you didn't reply



Mark down TNA CASH into your blacklists guys
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:01 PM   #2
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:19 PM   #4
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Yea, he doesn't reply email or icq

Last reply I have from him is from August 3rd:

Aron-tnacash8/3/2010 4:53 AM
I forgot what I found out, let me recheck it tonight!
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:28 PM   #5
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that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay

glad you tell the rest of us
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Thanks for appreciating Darth, I always will speak up hoping to help you and all affiliates to protect our traffic from programs that aren't even responsible enough to pay
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I wonder what both sides have to say as you both are veterans with respect...
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:18 PM   #10
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Use their CCbill links.
But I still get rebills and webmaster ref's from TNA cash NATS for LONG time

That money is what I'm talking about, most of my links are already changed to ccbill
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I have 27$ on NATS there.Is this new trend where programs with nats and ccbill not paying on nats part but paying only on ccbill?
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
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Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.
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Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.
I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.
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Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.
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I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.
I was a little hesitant about labeling it a NATS thing. It's not, really. That's why I made sure to include Mpa3. I should have been more precise and said "those who handle their own payouts". I agree about revshare generally being more stable than PPS. Of course if the sponsor has no integrity that might not help much in the end though.

It's almost to the point that sponsors handling their own payouts should be bonded a month's worth of affiliate payouts in case of disputes. Of course I have no fantasies of that ever happening but we're to the point where it would be a great selling point. Hell if I were TMM (as an example since they run NATS which is the biggest) I might even consider making it a requirement for programs using the software going forward just to keep a positive image with affiliates in the face of all the scandals.
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Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.
Nothing is absolute. I was simply theorizing based on my own experience. My theory is that more "programs that offer a PPS option" are late or not paying than "programs that don't have a PPS option." And I stand by it. Geezus, do I even have to call that a theory. It's a theory like gravity is a theory.

....remainder edited cuz it's a Saturday night and I don't feel like arguing.
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Old 09-26-2010, 12:01 AM   #23
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The main thing made me post this thread is I seen GotGauge (Aron) posting a few days ago

He has time to post replies on gfy, but no time to pay his affiliates

So Aron tell us, what "glitch" happend?
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But this is old news guys, He's always paid 1 month, or 3 months, or 6 months late

Now going on 1 year late, there is nothing he can do now to redeem himself, paying 9 months late is the same as not paying at all for me

Write it off and spread the word
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that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay

glad you tell the rest of us
Whats up buddy? Anyway I thought TNA Cash closed and stopped paying along time ago....... but thanks for keeping us up to date jscott.
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nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

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so my $31.91 is gone? bummer.
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why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time?
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It's looking like the bad ones who play games will be, yes. Affiliates themselves seem to be doing fine as long as they stay off sinking ships.
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Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.
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We're with Jscott here. Stiffed once by TNA.. then I made the bad decision of allowing them to sign up radical and same shit.
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Well this isnt looking good. I always thought TNA Cash had their shit together...
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Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.
Yep that's the one

But he also has TeenDeja, that was the most recent TNA Cash site, she's still active in the scene, and GotGauge aka Aron posts here on GFY recently

I asked him if he is willing to buy out my affiliate account, 1 final payment and he can keep all my future rebills/webmaster refs (TeenDolls John did this for me, pay out balance plus a little extra)

At least we could just settle this shitty stupid situation once and for all

....but of course, Aron does not reply to icq/email
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I find this mildly amusing... not because of your loss, jscott... but because he was recently here posting about the government and how it wastes so much money and it needs to stop spending. Ironic.

Funny, I know another scamming program owner that had the same issues with the government.
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bump bump, to remind you Aron, i know you've seen this thread, this is reminder how much of a dickhead you are
have a great day jj....... oops, i mean, Aron
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Added Aron and TNA Cash to:
http://www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php
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http://gfy.com/it/780091-scammer-list-add.html (scammer list)

Aron, yo bro, whazzup man, lets get together for some bro dinner sometime lol
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Even he has brand new threads he posts on GFY and I post in those, he replies to everyone, but ignores posts LOL

That is the voice of a true scammer
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