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Old 12-17-2009, 11:28 AM   #151
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I just checked this out for the first time, it sucks.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:30 AM   #152
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I am so sorry for my post Scott, I hope in the near future you will realize who your real friends are.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:30 AM   #153
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:41 AM   #154
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I actually couldn't go to sleep last night thinking about this. I hate to see anyone fail at something they put their heart into. I have failed so many times on wild projects I thought was great but in reality they were dumb as fuck. Scott, drop your ego and listen to these people. All the bros you talked to when you were developing this did you a diservice by not telling you the truth about this idea. Scott scrap this project now, don't throw good money after bad man. I failed twice at trying to make paysites, but nobody knew cause I didn't tell anyone in case they did fail, which sure enough they did. Here you have incredibly smart paysite owners who have made millions over the years closing down shop, they know paysites front and back and they are failing. Do what you know works man. Make some legal tube sites, something that others are doing right now that's working. Please man

I failed just as big as you did at a off line business. I had this crazy idea to buy tons of cheap silver jewelry, rent out rooms in antique stores and sell it. Great idea as the antique stores would sell it for me, take 10% then I just restock the rooms. I can't tell you how many hours of labor me, my wife, and my daughters put into this. I think I invested close to 200k into this. Display cases, display things for rings necklaces etc I have so much shit in my garage from this it's not even funny. About 150k was invested into the jewelry itself. Well as soon as I had 3 rooms set up guess what happened? Economy went to shit. Right now as I post this my daughter is sorting the jewelry so we can knock out the valuable stones and take 150k of silver jewelry to a smelter where I'll be lucky to get 40k for the sliver itself after they melt it all.

As others have said prove me wrong man, I wished you could but in my opinion no matter how you skin this cat it's not gonna pur, ever. Scrap it now, cut your losses and go on with your life man.
I agree and have said as much to him... his response was that I was a troll that never made any money. When I would bet I've made more than him and sure I still do make more. Everything I posted to him, which was good advice went on deaf ears... there is no point arguing with him, this project doesn't have a chance as it is especially on a low budget. He really needs to shoot his own content to have a chance.

I've failed at several projects in the past. I value feedback and I learned the hard way to get lots of feedback before you start a project. I don't care who it is from if it makes sense. I don't know which bros told him that this site was great and he would do well... hard to imagine people really think that, perhaps they just don't want to make him sad by saying the truth and instead tell him what he wants to hear.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:42 AM   #155
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i think those shitty cropped russian outdated porn pics are horrible for the tour. you need to hire some real girls and get pictures. every hot 18 year old on the planet wants to be a model so finding one to do clothed modeling for shit wages should be very easy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:43 AM   #156
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Am I the only one who has no idea what this site is offering?
yes, only you and the other trolls who have never made any money are confussed, everyone else gets it and thinks he will do well.


/ this is embarassing.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:43 AM   #157
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Scott best of luck to you. Now that the development is done you get to do the fun part in marketing and watching it grow. Take a look at the videos however cuz none of them play for me.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:47 AM   #158
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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #159
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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #160
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Pulled links for now... i'll wait until the dust settles down. Sorry Sleazy... just biz.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:55 AM   #161
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Scott best of luck to you. Now that the development is done you get to do the fun part in marketing and watching it grow. Take a look at the videos however cuz none of them play for me.
you probally need to update your flash player...........
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:57 AM   #162
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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
Tell us why it will fail here. I dont get why people care so HARD For peoples free minds and businesses.

That's business 101.-

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I wish he would take this advice seriously. I can see that everyone is trying to HELP and he is being such a close minded fool about it.

Maybe this is why he lost everything the first time, he refused to take advice?
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:59 AM   #164
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the people who put their links up, just so you know visa hasn't even approve yet...not sure why you made the announcement sleazy, i guess you were a bit excited.
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I wish he would take this advice seriously. I can see that everyone is trying to HELP and he is being such a close minded fool about it.

Maybe this is why he lost everything the first time, he refused to take advice?
you totally hit the nail on the head. if you dig up some old threads where he was talking about starting a night club i guarantee that it will be filled with all the bros saying "good idea you're going to be rich" and some honest people saying "the night club business is cutthroat, you dont know what you're getting yourself into".
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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
actually, i'm not going to.



there's a lot in there designed to gain traffic that most don't understand. ;)

so basically, and lets put this on the line here will76.... if I fail you are right.

what is the highest you've been on alexa will? 2000?

so if i do anything over your top alexa ranking by say June, lets see you put your money where your mouth is and fly my advertising in your signature for a month saying you were wrong and yessignals is amazing.

If I can't do 2000 on alexa by june - i'll fly any banner you want for 3 months.


or is that too scarry for you?
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/ this is embarassing.
Part of me thinks Sleazy may be fucking with everyone & this is an elaborate joke?
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Fabian, I was about to make a new thread saying the same thing.

I am almost positive this is a PR stunt to get everyone going so when he reveals the real idea everyone will be pumped up and it will get more attention.

There's actually no way this is all for real.
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the people who put their links up, just so you know visa hasn't even approve yet...not sure why you made the announcement sleazy, i guess you were a bit excited.
obviously you can't read
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Part of me thinks Sleazy may be fucking with everyone & this is an elaborate joke?
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
Will, you generally give good advice, and I am sure that this case is no exception, but if you want people to take you more seriously, you have to stop taking yourself SO seriously.

You don't like the concept or the site, and don't think it will make money. It's your opinion. Others disagree, which means they are idiots or bro's right? Wrong.

You do this in many threads, the original camgirls thread being a prime example, whereby because your opinions fell on deaf ears you resorted to personal abuse of the guy (which remember was BEFORE his issues became known) and there have been others, but I am too lazy to go on a quote fest for you.

It's great that you take time to give advice to people, but remember they are under no obligation to take it, and if they decided to invest THEIR money in something then they have the right to do it the way they feel is right.

We already know sleazy has limited resources in his present situation so to get ANY site off the ground, let alone a seemingl original one, even with less than perfect content, is an achievement.....especially as he still finds time to post almost constant crap here

This is not a personal attack on you, but if you see it that way, up to you. I am actually trying to help you in the same way you try to help others. You "having 10 years cam experience and being available for consulting projects" makes me as a camsite owner a potential client for you, but regardless of how smart you may be, I think you come over as someone only open to his own opinion, which I don't think helps you find opportunities.



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more bizarre is how much you care, with your multiple posts, saying you make more, being aggravated.







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Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea.
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Ok I'm down to put up some links. Hope it does well for you.
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yeah, it's kind of creepy how he always latches on to something and won't let go. almost always something negative to say too. weird.
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Honestly the design is bad. and i mean real bad.

media and real life are being blended more than ever, you need to stand out to convert, people expect nothing but the best now or it doesnt even get a blip and register with them.

it is not agressive at all. :| everyone is going out of business because they are throwing up the same crap. the same crap stopped converting years ago.

you people as usual wont listen and fail then wonder why always remember:

"you can have a shitty product with an amazing image and sell it. you cannot have a shitty image with a good product and sell it."

the idea has merit but scrap the entire design. i do this all day everyday i can tell by just looking if it converts.

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i love how the trolls that never made any money don't have a clue....

Most people are lucky to get 5 "suggestions" from GFY. You have 4 pages. You don't like some of them, so you call them broke trolls.

I thought your current financial/life situation humbled you a bit. Guess not.

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Old 12-17-2009, 12:22 PM   #179
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Is it me or does sleazy sound just like that Camgirls .com guy?
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Fabian, I was about to make a new thread saying the same thing.

I am almost positive this is a PR stunt to get everyone going so when he reveals the real idea everyone will be pumped up and it will get more attention.

There's actually no way this is all for real.
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I thought your current financial/life situation humbled you a bit. Guess not.

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obviously you're an idiot to make an announcement prior to visa approving your site.

especially when some people on here already stated that they have started putting up your links.
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I can never tell the manufactured drama from reality any more.

Is this for real?
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What the hell is the point of this site? I don't get it.. what are ppl signing up for? It's just chicks with random poses????

I'm like mind boggled... it's so bad... just horrid... Is this targeted to women to learn how to flirt??? lol... i mean... just HUH
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sleazy judging from this thread you might wanna make the pitch more convincing/understandable.. there are dozens of people here who dont understand what the website is all about, so imagine how many surfers you will lose?
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I'm starting to think this is a marketing trick and he will reveal the actual project he was hyping up and call us all idiots. If this is indeed the actual site/project, it may go down as one of the all time Epic Fails on GFY.
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Hmmm 2000 impressions and 9 clicks.... don't know if my traffic even agrees with the site.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:29 PM   #189
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seriously.. if i come here saying i have something that's going to change the industry... uhm... your first words should be to me "jesus... you've been around this long and you think there is a new way for surfers to jack it???... you're a fucking dumbass... that said, lets hear your idea"

and then,... when i tell you my really stupid idea and then show you how horribly executed it is.. please don't be a spineless pussy and just say "looks good bro" - that won't do me any favors as i take my last few remaining dollars and pile them high in front of GFY and set them on fire. i would just appreciate it you said "hey, you're not all that bright, clearly have a learning disability, spell like a 7 year old ... lets talk about some more reasonable future goals that might be within your reach, that don't involve a whole lot of thinking, planning or decision making"

the majority of you fucking idiots on this forum are a bunch of pathetic pussies who have no opinion, until you decide what opinion will make you most popular. its a sad way to go through life. being fake. fake personalities. fake smiles. fake friends. fake friendships and fake business relationships.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #190
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GFY: where everyone thinks everyone else is an idiot.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #191
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Hmmm 2000 impressions and 9 clicks.... don't know if my traffic even agrees with the site.
LOL.. are you actually promoting this? You fucking stupid?
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:32 PM   #192
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Hmmm 2000 impressions and 9 clicks.... don't know if my traffic even agrees with the site.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:33 PM   #193
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GFY: where everyone thinks everyone else is an idiot.
Well, Good thing Sleazy proved his idiocy with this thread... now there's no thinking.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:34 PM   #194
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In theory i understand what the site is for, in reality it sucks.

I can see this site being like a 'how to pick up chicks' type of site. you know 'how to be a player' etc.

but a 'porn site'...more power to you. i just saw a sample video..


'im just a troll that doesn't make money'


edit- you're charging 30 a pop also.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:34 PM   #195
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If this were a brick and mortar store this is how it would work:

You'd be walking around outside on the street and you'd see a sign on a store window that says "Free Candy Canes". You walk in to the store thinking "Cool I get a free candy cane." Next, you are bopped on the head by an anorexic Russian woman wearing an oil stained mechanics coverall using a foam mallet. She giggles, and then pushes you down into a large teacup that has a stool in it. You land on the stool and a door closes to the teacup.

Now you spin around in circles in the store on a track, where you see stuffed parrots, a gazebo with a BBQ in it which is cooking what looks like mutated donkeys. You spin more and strobe lights and blacklights and laser shows nearly give you a seizure and stroke at the same time. A smoke machine blarts a smelly odor your way, while you are tipped upside down. At the end, your teacup smashes into 100 pieces and you fall onto the floor, cutting your elbow.

The Anorexic Russian slaps you, smiles and then says "Okay, how much do you want to buy?"
You reply with "What the hell just happened?"

She refuses to answer you, and only gets aggressive "Don't fucking come here unless you're ready to buy!" and then shoves you outside onto the street, where is has begun to rain and you are in shorts and flipflops.

Soaking wet you go home pissed off and tell your friends what happened and they say "That makes no sense. Think you'll go back to get more free candy canes?" you reply with "Fuck no, I have NO damn idea what happened AND I didn't get a free candy cane."

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Old 12-17-2009, 12:37 PM   #196
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dude - i owned a bar. 99% of men are CLUELESS

and the same 99% THINK they know.....



ask ANY woman
Now there a spin on this site that COULD actually convert.
I will gaurantee $1000 that if you made a tour with that as the angle you will WAY out convert that thing you have now

The concept is great but the marketing you have now leaves SO SO SO much out.



Hi I am Scott and allow me to let you in on the secret I learned while owning a bar.

I watched men try to pick up women every single night for 5 years.

Blah blah blah..

YOU get the point.
You need personality to make this a success. Not 1980's content and poor crop jobs.


Good luck
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:39 PM   #197
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Here you go.... Maybe replace your landing page with this... should clear things up for people

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Old 12-17-2009, 12:43 PM   #198
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If this were a brick and mortar store this is how it would work:

You'd be walking around outside on the street and you'd see a sign on a store window that says "Free Candy Canes". You walk in to the store thinking "Cool I get a free candy cane." Next, you are bopped on the head by an anorexic Russian woman wearing an oil stained mechanics coverall using a foam mallet. She giggles, and then pushes you down into a large teacup that has a stool in it. You land on the stool and a door closes to the teacup.

Now you spin around in circles in the store on a track, where you see stuffed parrots, a gazebo with a BBQ in it which is cooking what looks like mutated donkeys. You spin more and strobe lights and blacklights and laser shows nearly give you a seizure and stroke at the same time. A smoke machine blarts a smelly odor your way, while you are tipped upside down. At the end, your teacup smashes into 100 pieces and you fall onto the floor, cutting your elbow.

The Anorexic Russian slaps you, smiles and then says "Okay, how much do you want to buy?"
You reply with "What the hell just happened?"

She refuses to answer you, and only gets aggressive "Don't fucking come here unless you're ready to buy!" and then shoves you outside onto the street, where is has begun to rain and you are in shorts and flipflops.

Soaking wet you go home pissed off and tell your friends what happened and they say "That makes no sense. Think you'll go back to get more free candy canes?" you reply with "Fuck no, I have NO damn idea what happened AND I didn't get a free candy cane."
LOLOLOL
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:43 PM   #199
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someone find me the thread where a "bro" was saying how great the site looks etc etc. i want to own that guy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:44 PM   #200
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Tough crowd here. I'm gonna promote it. If it sells, good for me, if it doesn't, I'll try something different. I'm sure with all the constructive advice from everyone here that Sleazy will tweak his site with all the great new ideas proffered.
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