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Old 07-05-2009, 02:45 PM   #51
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:47 PM   #52
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Just for clarification... I am not against opposition of Obama's agenda... most of the time I am posting arguments it is purely because the posts are based on falsehoods, innuendo, propaganda or racism. If any "GFY Conservative" posts opposition that is based on actual facts, I don't argue with them. For example... baddog and I don't share the same opinion... but he doesn't post flat out garbage posts... he states his opposition and leaves it at that instead of quoting a bunch of bullshit talking points that are based on the above.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:49 PM   #53
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This thread is great. The only reason i even post anymore is to keep my promise to rub this shit in the faces of idiots like Baddog who swore he didnt have a chance, and now they give you some random amount time that you will see what he was talking about..
HAhahahahahahah...>!!!! boo fucking hoo. Obama was the better candidate by FAR!!!!!
How about all you idiots start talkin about the dumb witch Palin and how she would have been a great leader....retards you are. Shes about to be outed for being a crook like we know most of these bumbs the retarded right puts up. Cry in your own cheerios. HAHAHAHHAAHAHA!
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:03 PM   #54
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You guys seriously have nothing better to do on Sunday than argue over politics?

Are you trying to convert each other like insane religious zealots? Maybe you should go knock on doors and hand out pamphlets with your beliefs printed on them.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:26 PM   #55
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For what it's worth, anyone in office right now would be doing a shitty job. Bush left a mess. I just wish Obama was spending more time working and less time on TV talking about what he is *going* to do. DO IT ALREADY!!!
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:27 PM   #56
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obama isn't even an american citizen. he wasn't even born here!

shit is going to hit the fan soon! there is soooooooooooooo an impeachment coming. just wait....and wait....and wait....and wait.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:28 PM   #57
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BTW.. they are now talking about yet another bailout!

can you say fail?
Dude, if they do another bailout, I will loose ALL HOPE in the American system, and I mean ALL hope.

I'm a simple man but I'm even smart enough to know that you can't spend your way out of a deficit. It doesn't work and borrowing and printing more money is only going to cause inflation, or worse, hyper-inflation.

Spread out your wealth, that's all I'm saying. The dollar is on thin ice.
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that was just me being sarcastic up there btw. but lets see how many people run with it. i donated $1,200 to the Obama campaign. And I'd give another $1,200 now if I had to in order to keep out McSame and dumb ass Sarah Palin.

She's suing the entire internet btw. So watch what you say about her on here.
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some INCREDIBLE SHIT is about to hit the fan
Hey LOOK! Everybody!!! Thee one and only PussyMan from the adult message board GFY! scooped all of the reputable (snicker) right wing news sources like NewsMax, the Drudge Report, NoQuarter and The Free Republic and has some MAJOR Dirt on Obama!!!!!

PussyMan is obviously some inside man and knows his shit!!! Alert the presses!!! Some big stuff coming!!! He probably couldn't be any vaguer!! Specifics might tick off his super secretive inside sources!! Just know it's some big stuff! He is important!!!!

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Old 07-05-2009, 03:56 PM   #60
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Obama was always a center-right neoliberal in the clintonian mold, and anybody who couldn't see that was a fool.

The only difference between neocons and neoliberals is which corporate dick they suck.

It's still funny tho, to see all the silly rightwingers cry like loser babies and come up with even lamer braindead conspiracy theories than the leftwingers.

It wouldn't make any difference who was in the white house. We americans let the corporations rule for the last 30 years, and the bills are coming due.

And we've just begun to see the shitstorm we bought with 30 years of self-indulgent greed and laziness and stupidity.

We have no functional economy - all we have left is a collapsed debt-based consumerism. Our long national nightmare is just beginning.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:00 PM   #61
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that was just me being sarcastic up there btw. but lets see how many people run with it. i donated $1,200 to the Obama campaign. And I'd give another $1,200 now if I had to in order to keep out McSame and dumb ass Sarah Palin.

She's suing the entire internet btw. So watch what you say about her on here.
You are just a dumb retard. No need to argue with you, it would be like talking to a rock
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Please remember! Money and politics are entirely a fabricated existence of the mind!
These topics are all illusionary to the tits. What is not?

1 Eurozone 11,065.0 76.5%
2 United States 8,133.5 78.9%
3 Germany 3,412.6 71.5%

These are the current gold reserves of the world, which
the monopoly moneyesk USD is oddly enough, firmly based upon.

Oil and Gold guys, not darkies and greenbacks.
Also, I fuck Janet reno in the ass, here here..
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Obama was always a center-right neoliberal in the clintonian mold, and anybody who couldn't see that was a fool.
Quoted for truth. I honestly have to say that this is one of the most accurate assessments I have seen posted. ALL of the Democratic Party candidates were center right except for Kucinich, Nader (both are middle of the road left wingers) and Gravel (who is a far right neoliberal... not center).

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Funny watching people defend a behavior that they would be quick to attack had it been someone from the other party doing it or a republican president.

The biggest liars and most disingenuous people in the politics are those who support a particular candidate/party to begin with and willfully turn a blind eye to that persons/parties behaviors which contradict their views.

That being said, its funny watching the disciples of Black Jesus stand up and testify to his greatness. Faith is faith. Whether its Christianity, Buddhism, Scientology, the flying spaghetti monster.... or Democrat/Republican and one is no more rational and reasonable than the other.

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Funny watching people defend a behavior that they would be quick to attack had it been someone from the other party doing it or a republican president.

The biggest liars and most disingenuous people in the politics are those who support a particular candidate/party to begin with and willfully turn a blind eye to that persons/parties behaviors which contradict their views.

That being said, its funny watching the disciples of Black Jesus stand up and testify to his greatness. Faith is faith. Whether its Christianity, Buddhism, Scientology, the flying spaghetti monster.... or Democrat/Republican and one is no more rational and reasonable than the other.

Are you for real? You could only go to a Bush townhall if you were invited and they strictly managed the message. Where have you been? This is politics... managing message is paramount... didn't you know that?
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Are you for real? You could only go to a Bush townhall if you were invited and they strictly managed the message. Where have you been? This is politics... managing message is paramount... didn't you know that?
its not about what i "know" and "don't know"

if it was Bush, you (and everyone else defending Obama) would be talking about what a horrible, lying asshole he was, spoon feeding the masses propaganda under the guise of "open discussion"

i'm not as biased as you are. i would call Bush an asshole and Obama an asshole... because at the end of the day, its a lie.
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Quoted for truth. I honestly have to say that this is one of the most accurate assessments I have seen posted. ALL of the Democratic Party candidates were center right except for Kucinich, Nader (both are middle of the road left wingers) and Gravel (who is a far right neoliberal... not center).

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its not about what i "know" and "don't know"

if it was Bush, you (and everyone else defending Obama) would be talking about what a horrible, lying asshole he was, spoon feeding the masses propaganda under the guise of "open discussion"

i'm not as biased as you are. i would call Bush an asshole and Obama an asshole... because at the end of the day, its a lie.
Pretty much

Obama went out of his way WITH TAX PAYER MONEY to make it appear that this was random, unstaged event.
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Funny watching people defend a behavior that they would be quick to attack had it been someone from the other party doing it or a republican president.

The biggest liars and most disingenuous people in the politics are those who support a particular candidate/party to begin with and willfully turn a blind eye to that persons/parties behaviors which contradict their views.

That being said, its funny watching the disciples of Black Jesus stand up and testify to his greatness. Faith is faith. Whether its Christianity, Buddhism, Scientology, the flying spaghetti monster.... or Democrat/Republican and one is no more rational and reasonable than the other.


somebody sure knows how to hit on a nail on it's head!
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Funny watching people defend a behavior that they would be quick to attack had it been someone from the other party doing it or a republican president.

The biggest liars and most disingenuous people in the politics are those who support a particular candidate/party to begin with and willfully turn a blind eye to that persons/parties behaviors which contradict their views.

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its not about what i "know" and "don't know"

if it was Bush, you (and everyone else defending Obama) would be talking about what a horrible, lying asshole he was, spoon feeding the masses propaganda under the guise of "open discussion"

i'm not as biased as you are. i would call Bush an asshole and Obama an asshole... because at the end of the day, its a lie.
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This isn't anything new for Presidents... they OFTEN bait the questions and select the exact people that will ask the questions they want or review ALL questions and go at them in an exact order. From media, to people they hug in crowds, to the exact people sitting in a room or that can board af1, he is limited on time and limited on questions..

So lame to call this a lack of transparency.. truly, the obama can only do wrong people need to stop being so stupid.
This is true and it has been this way for decades. It's amazing how stupid people are.
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This is true and it has been this way for decades.
When your campaign slogan is CHANGE maybe you shouldn't do things the way the have been done for decades.
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Obama is our lord and saviour! You people are just racists

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When your campaign slogan is CHANGE maybe you shouldn't do things the way the have been done for decades.
So Obama was suppose to change, in every way, everything that a president will do, he will do totally different simply because of the message: CHANGE?

I'm pretty sure the message wasn't, Let's Change Everything!
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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/09/...eak-from-bush/

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs explained on Friday: 'Ive watched the President do town halls from 2004 through 2008, and the audience has never been hand-picked, and neither have the questions. And were not going to start any of that on Monday.'

Nope they're gonna start Tuesday after he fucked up without his teleprompter once again.

Obama's press secretary and Obama did make a big deal of breaking away from Bush style townhalls. Chris Matthews and the media did too -- for those who actually follow politics that was the Caterpiller job saving news cycle. People mentioned this break from Bush style townhalls often that day (it was some of the talking points of the day), so the Obama sheep shouldn't act like people are knit picking poor Obama on this subject. The Obama administration began the comparison not conservatives or Republicans.
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"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs explained on Friday: 'I’ve watched the President do town halls from 2004 through 2008, and the audience has never been hand-picked, and neither have the questions. And we’re not going to start any of that on Monday.'”
Oh, Bush's questions about the war weren't hand picked? Pleaseeeeeeeee..... the man couldn't answer what his name was without reading it first. So he didn't do it at town halls... he damn sure did it though.
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and its also worth pointing out that I accept being lied to. why? because we have a public who holds people to ridiculous and impossible standards and will pick apart every misspelled word, every misused word and every mispoken word and try to turn it into something that it isn't.

so... lie to me. i get it.

my simple demands:

1) have the decency to make up a good lie... don't insult my intelligence with shitty, ill conceived, poorly thought out lies. i want to know you put some work into it.

2) don't get caught lying.
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Oh, Bush's questions about the war weren't hand picked? Pleaseeeeeeeee..... the man couldn't answer what his name was without reading it first. So he didn't do it at town halls... he damn sure did it though.
Doc, Gibbs is Obama's press secretary -- been with Obama since 2004. Didn't you know that?
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