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natas · 04-09-2008, 05:00 PM

great move brad - respect goes out to you for that decision

Anna_Miller · 04-09-2008, 05:03 PM

Hats off to you for standing up to the tube model and, even more importantly, having standards beyond the dollarl!!

NoWhErE · 04-09-2008, 06:20 PM

Im curious, how many people have had their accounts terminated or have changed their site to comply?

Joe BrainCash · 04-09-2008, 06:56 PM

Very impressive move. Hope it'll be contagious. Bravo Brad!

Brad Mitchell · 04-09-2008, 06:57 PM

Thank you everyone for your kind words. We are excited to be taking the high road here and look forward to a day when this issue of gross copyright infringement no longer plagues the industry. It will come, it can't happen fast enough, but it will surely take some time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Im curious, how many people have had their accounts terminated or have changed their site to comply?

I just made the announcement to our clients and the community at 3pm EST today.. that's about 6.5 hours ago. 4 hours ago I left the office to take the kids to swim class. So, the short answer to your question is 0 so far to both. What I have fielded thus far is several clients asking us to review their sites and none of those yet have been found to be a concern.

I suspect we will identify clients with issues and clients will identify themselves over the coming weeks. This should yield a variety of results; I think some will move those assets off to other hosts, I am hopeful everyone will choose to comply but inevidably I expect some will find new hosting arrangements.

Only time will tell! The reality is that for the most part we pick our clients as much as they pick us. I don't throw out a large net - we specialize in providing superior service and performance and that simply doesn't scale to taking on everyone as clients at every price point. I consider us fortunate to have a great group of really honest and hardworking adult companies as clients.

Our clients have been vocal over the phone, sms, email, icq and on the boards - they are pleased and I am fortunate that they agree with our decision... because I'm stubborn, I would have made it anyway.

Cheers,

Brad

munki · 04-09-2008, 07:04 PM

Stand up move...

Halcyon · 04-09-2008, 07:08 PM

bravo, Brad!

NoWhErE · 04-09-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Thank you everyone for your kind words. We are excited to be taking the high road here and look forward to a day when this issue of gross copyright infringement no longer plagues the industry. It will come, it can't happen fast enough, but it will surely take some time.

I just made the announcement to our clients and the community at 3pm EST today.. that's about 6.5 hours ago. 4 hours ago I left the office to take the kids to swim class. So, the short answer to your question is 0 so far to both. What I have fielded thus far is several clients asking us to review their sites and none of those yet have been found to be a concern.

I suspect we will identify clients with issues and clients will identify themselves over the coming weeks. This should yield a variety of results; I think some will move those assets off to other hosts, I am hopeful everyone will choose to comply but inevidably I expect some will find new hosting arrangements.

Only time will tell! The reality is that for the most part we pick our clients as much as they pick us. I don't throw out a large net - we specialize in providing superior service and performance and that simply doesn't scale to taking on everyone as clients at every price point. I consider us fortunate to have a great group of really honest and hardworking adult companies as clients.

Our clients have been vocal over the phone, sms, email, icq and on the boards - they are pleased and I am fortunate that they agree with our decision... because I'm stubborn, I would have made it anyway.

Cheers,

Brad

My bad, im in my own little world today and didnt think about what time u had posted the thread.

But ya, I'm curious to see what the actual reaction to a Host denying tube services does. Do they switch? comply? do many tube sites even host in the US? So let us know when you get more data

papill0n · 04-09-2008, 07:16 PM

Good stuff Brad

Shoehorn! · 04-09-2008, 07:58 PM

Good call.

Snake Doctor · 04-09-2008, 08:44 PM

Nice move Brad.

I would like to ask anyone else who feels the same way as Brad to join me in boycotting GTS until they stop selling ads on illegal tube sites.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=817025

SBJ · 04-09-2008, 09:19 PM

Very nice move Brad! We are happy to host with you guys!

milan · 04-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Brad,

I applaud the post and really don't want to take from your moment but aren't you just forcing the AUP? since all of us Hosting companies have an AUP that we DON'T allow illegal content or stolen at that.

We (and I'm sure you) have at least 1 complaint of DMCA violation a week and we deal with that I'm sure you do as well either but request removal of the offending content OR shutting down the site.

Some examples.... (Oh and bring on the haters)

from your (mojohost) AUP:
Intellectual Property Violations -- Engaging in any activity that infringes or misappropriates the intellectual property rights of
others, including copyrights, trademarks, service marks, trade secrets, software piracy, and patents held by individuals,
corporations, or other entities. Also, engaging in activity that violates privacy, publicity, or other personal rights of others.
MojoHost is required by law to remove or block access to customer content upon receipt of a proper notice of copyright
infringement. It is also MojoHost's policy to terminate the privileges of customers who commit repeat violations of copyright
laws.

Webair AUP:
DMCA Notice and Takedown
Upon notice, we will remove or request that a third party remove Content from the Webair
Network that infringes the copyright of others and to the extent we are able to do so we will
disable access to our Service by anyone who repeatedly infringes the intellectual property
rights of others. Webair processes claims of copyright infringement in accordance with the
Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, 17 U.S.C. § 512 et. seq (the "DMCA"). The DMCA
addresses the rights and obligations of owners of copyrighted material who believe that
their rights under U.S. copyright law have been infringed on the Internet, as well as the
rights and obligations of Internet Service Providers on whose servers infringing material
may reside.
Upon receipt of written notification provided in the manner required by 17 U.S.C. § 512, we
will:
" Act expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the Content that is claimed to be
infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity;

OC3 Networks AUP:
OC3 Networks prohibits sites engaged in:
? Illegal activities including but not limited to storing and/or distributing illegal copies of copyrighted software, warez sites, violations of copyrights and trademarks, violations of U.S. laws, selling and/or distributing illegal contraband.
Should a policy violation occur, OC3 Networks reserves the right to terminate the account without notice and without any refunds. The policy violating client will be held responsible for any damages to OC3 Networks, including but not limited to, OC3 Networks's system, servers, connectivity, reputation, business, service, network, operations, or equipment

Nurgle · 04-09-2008, 10:21 PM

nice one brad!

crazies · 04-10-2008, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

Brad,

I applaud the post and really don't want to take from your moment but aren't you just forcing the AUP?

Then you should have just gone away

MojoHost 2nd to NONE in Service and Class

The Duck · 04-10-2008, 05:15 AM

good call right htere

Brad Mitchell · 04-10-2008, 07:32 AM

Milan,

We've always enforced our AUP as I am sure every other host does. Responding to DMCA complaints with removal of specific content isn't enough of a measure to affect the situation at hand with tube sites. Refusing to host sites with a preponderance of known stolen video content that you'll never receive a DMCA notices on, that's our choice.

Brad

Myst · 04-10-2008, 07:36 AM

now i have to get another host

avrevenue · 04-10-2008, 07:49 AM

congrats Brad

quantum-x · 04-10-2008, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamWithHer

To be honest, I'd never heard of you before this post, but I must give you props. I really wish more hosting companies would do the same. Good job!

er.. lol :D

GO BRAD!

Zorgman · 04-10-2008, 08:23 AM

Good work Brad.

Hoping that your still allow legal tube sites (like TEVS etc). :D
I know a few clients using TEVS on your servers and they love it. So good work.

milan · 04-10-2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Milan,

We've always enforced our AUP as I am sure every other host does. Responding to DMCA complaints with removal of specific content isn't enough of a measure to affect the situation at hand with tube sites. Refusing to host sites with a preponderance of known stolen video content that you'll never receive a DMCA notices on, that's our choice.

Brad

So you will host no tube sites at all? or you will start going threw all sites hosted on your network?

We both know that this is unlikely, you are just going to enforce AUP and if you come across a tube site that looks like uses stolen content you will take action to cancel it, that is how ALL of us hosting will approach it.

But i do like your thinking great marketing strategy to get some love, already told you that long a go you have some nice tricks under your sleeve.

Cheers!

minddust · 04-10-2008, 10:15 AM

That's why we're hosted at MH

Brad Mitchell · 04-10-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

So you will host no tube sites at all? or you will start going threw all sites hosted on your network?

We both know that this is unlikely, you are just going to enforce AUP and if you come across a tube site that looks like uses stolen content you will take action to cancel it, that is how ALL of us hosting will approach it.

But i do like your thinking great marketing strategy to get some love, already told you that long a go you have some nice tricks under your sleeve.

Cheers!

Milan,

Dude, I'm tired. Are you just trying to push my buttons? Those aren't real questions and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am simply giving marketing lip service.

I suppose you want your logical lead in to saying that OC3Networks is already doing what I just said MojoHost is going to do. Ok, you have it. That would make you unique Milan, every other host turns a blind eye to all of the tube sites and has not been canceling repeat DMCA offenders or not seeking this high volume hosting.

I run a tight network with a great client list. I don't expect to discover very much but will be making a sincere effort to find what needs to be found in fairly short order.

I don't have tricks under my sleeve, I have my sleeves rolled up for work.

Brad

SpeakEasy · 04-10-2008, 12:51 PM

Wow, I'm not sure if what mojo is doing is a good move or not, but what I do know is this milan character is a 100% total deuche bag to the nth degree. This guy has no class whatsoever and I would Never do busin ess with him ever...!!!

MichaelP · 04-10-2008, 12:54 PM

Good Call Brad

qxm · 04-10-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

Wow, I'm not sure if what mojo is doing is a good move or not, but what I do know is this milan character is a 100% total deuche bag to the nth degree. This guy has no class whatsoever and I would Never do busin ess with him ever...!!!

Don't know u brad but good call

........ALSO, I have to agree with the comment above, this Milan dude just made himself and his company look bad by sayin' stuff like that......, I guess some hosting companies are so full of illegal tube sites they'd be in trouble if they cancel them all uh?

AliGbone · 04-10-2008, 01:11 PM

- da marketing lip services...$6.00
- rolled up sleeveless tees....$14.95
- censorship of da internet and your clients...PRICELESS

AUPs and DMCAs - Da other white meat!

Lensman · 04-10-2008, 01:14 PM

If I was a host, I wouldn't want to deal with all those DMCA's a tube will prob generate.

crazies · 04-10-2008, 01:19 PM

Milan just didn't have the balls to announce it and stand up for whats right.

Go away Milan and find another thread to jack or just keep hiding behind your AUP and DMCAs!

Anthony · 04-10-2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Milan,

Dude, I'm tired. Are you just trying to push my buttons? Those aren't real questions and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am simply giving marketing lip service.

I suppose you want your logical lead in to saying that OC3Networks is already doing what I just said MojoHost is going to do. Ok, you have it. That would make you unique Milan, every other host turns a blind eye to all of the tube sites and has not been canceling repeat DMCA offenders or not seeking this high volume hosting.

I run a tight network with a great client list. I don't expect to discover very much but will be making a sincere effort to find what needs to be found in fairly short order.

I don't have tricks under my sleeve, I have my sleeves rolled up for work.

Brad

Well that settles it, I'm going to do everything in my power to move all my servers that I work with over to Mojo Host.

Sausage · 04-10-2008, 06:55 PM

The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

I host our tube with mojohost, and while we are pretty sure we aren't the type of tube they are talking about, when a company takes an anti-tube stand ... the good tend to be lumped in with the bad.

Also to address another point regarding so many tubes selling. Yep many are, but you have to be a bloody idiot to allow 20 min videos and still expect to make lots of money. Tubes can produce good profitable traffic just like tgps, mgps, etc etc, but you gotta use some common sense. Also, with the sheer number of sponsors contacting us wanting to get their promo content and clips on our tube ... there is no reason you would ever need to use stolen content or turn a blind eye to it .... it just doesn't make sense.

milan · 04-10-2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Milan,

Dude, I'm tired. Are you just trying to push my buttons? Those aren't real questions and I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am simply giving marketing lip service.

I suppose you want your logical lead in to saying that OC3Networks is already doing what I just said MojoHost is going to do. Ok, you have it. That would make you unique Milan, every other host turns a blind eye to all of the tube sites and has not been canceling repeat DMCA offenders or not seeking this high volume hosting.

I run a tight network with a great client list. I don't expect to discover very much but will be making a sincere effort to find what needs to be found in fairly short order.

I don't have tricks under my sleeve, I have my sleeves rolled up for work.

Brad

Hey,

what's up? you can't get some dialog open on something you brought up? you do the same all the time and I mean ALL the time.

Just trying to understand what you are announcing that is ALL.

anyhow cheers!

milan · 04-10-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm

Don't know u brad but good call

........ALSO, I have to agree with the comment above, this Milan dude just made himself and his company look bad by sayin' stuff like that......, I guess some hosting companies are so full of illegal tube sites they'd be in trouble if they cancel them all uh?

did you even read my comment? I guess not.

go back and read it... it says ALL (hosting companies) of us already doing this and my question to Brad was is he doing something new... that is all.

instead of getting angry he could explain what is he doing new so we can maybe.... learn?

madfuck · 04-10-2008, 07:07 PM

thx for the info....

Brad Mitchell · 04-11-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

I host our tube with mojohost, and while we are pretty sure we aren't the type of tube they are talking about, when a company takes an anti-tube stand ... the good tend to be lumped in with the bad.

Also to address another point regarding so many tubes selling. Yep many are, but you have to be a bloody idiot to allow 20 min videos and still expect to make lots of money. Tubes can produce good profitable traffic just like tgps, mgps, etc etc, but you gotta use some common sense. Also, with the sheer number of sponsors contacting us wanting to get their promo content and clips on our tube ... there is no reason you would ever need to use stolen content or turn a blind eye to it .... it just doesn't make sense.

You are making excellent decisions with your site as are a silent majority of other people out there. Keep on tubing!

Brad

Matiz · 04-11-2008, 10:50 AM

great move

Snake Doctor · 04-11-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one.

There is no shifting ground here, you either own a license to use the content, or have the copyright owner's permission to use the content, or you don't.

Just because DMCA allows you to remove copyright infringing material without having to pay a fine or damages to the copyright holder does not mean that stealing their content and then taking it down when they catch you is "legal"

NoWhErE · 04-11-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

My bad, im in my own little world today and didnt think about what time u had posted the thread.

But ya, I'm curious to see what the actual reaction to a Host denying tube services does. Do they switch? comply? do many tube sites even host in the US? So let us know when you get more data

2 days into the official announcement. Is there any data yet?

Brujah · 04-11-2008, 02:26 PM

milan, are you already doing this? is webair? is prohosters? Have you read the AUPs of the hosting companies that host the tubes? It's just verbiage in most cases because we all know hosts make exceptions or look the other way. What I get from this is that Brad / MojoHost isn't looking the other way and doesn't want to be the host you use if you plan on running an illegal tube site.

Brad Mitchell · 04-11-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

2 days into the official announcement. Is there any data yet?

A little bit. Mostly it's been clients contacting me that have tube sites with either sponsor content and/or genuine user submitted stuff. I have not as of yet come across any tube sites that need to go or change YET. I have actually heard back from a few dozen clients after making the announcement for these various clarifications and questions they have had and only one of them thought it was a bad idea but was not himself hosting any such tube site on my network.

What a great group of clients!

Brad

pocketkangaroo · 04-11-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Nice move Brad.

I would like to ask anyone else who feels the same way as Brad to join me in boycotting GTS until they stop selling ads on illegal tube sites.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=817025

Looks like it may have worked. I don't see that site selling tube traffic any longer and someone was worried enough that they got those threads pulled from all the boards on the web.

Paparazzi · 04-11-2008, 03:59 PM

good, but 60 days? Give them 1 week max

milan · 04-11-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

milan, are you already doing this? is webair? is prohosters? Have you read the AUPs of the hosting companies that host the tubes? It's just verbiage in most cases because we all know hosts make exceptions or look the other way. What I get from this is that Brad / MojoHost isn't looking the other way and doesn't want to be the host you use if you plan on running an illegal tube site.

Brujah, yes we do but you raised a good point, you will be surprised how many accounts are getting canceled every months do to AUP violation.

AUP was really started being enforced during the SPAM surge. SPAMHAUS did a great job educating ISP's (by some extreme methods) on enforcing it.

Brad Mitchell · 04-12-2008, 10:58 AM

Bump for the weekend warriors

Brad

Chio · 04-12-2008, 11:20 AM

Congrats on a bold move. Hopefully others will follow.

TheSenator · 10-05-2009, 07:08 AM

Congrats!

Nicky · 10-05-2009, 07:31 AM

old bumpage

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-05-2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

Congrats on a bold move. Hopefully others will follow.

How have you been Chio

10-05-2009, 07:40 AM

brilliant move, standing up for what you believe in and actually acting upon it!

mad props!

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milan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dee Dee Dee LAND! Posts: 800	Brad, I applaud the post and really don't want to take from your moment but aren't you just forcing the AUP? since all of us Hosting companies have an AUP that we DON'T allow illegal content or stolen at that. We (and I'm sure you) have at least 1 complaint of DMCA violation a week and we deal with that I'm sure you do as well either but request removal of the offending content OR shutting down the site. Some examples.... (Oh and bring on the haters) from your (mojohost) AUP: Intellectual Property Violations -- Engaging in any activity that infringes or misappropriates the intellectual property rights of others, including copyrights, trademarks, service marks, trade secrets, software piracy, and patents held by individuals, corporations, or other entities. Also, engaging in activity that violates privacy, publicity, or other personal rights of others. MojoHost is required by law to remove or block access to customer content upon receipt of a proper notice of copyright infringement. It is also MojoHost's policy to terminate the privileges of customers who commit repeat violations of copyright laws. Webair AUP: DMCA Notice and Takedown Upon notice, we will remove or request that a third party remove Content from the Webair Network that infringes the copyright of others and to the extent we are able to do so we will disable access to our Service by anyone who repeatedly infringes the intellectual property rights of others. Webair processes claims of copyright infringement in accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, 17 U.S.C. § 512 et. seq (the "DMCA"). The DMCA addresses the rights and obligations of owners of copyrighted material who believe that their rights under U.S. copyright law have been infringed on the Internet, as well as the rights and obligations of Internet Service Providers on whose servers infringing material may reside. Upon receipt of written notification provided in the manner required by 17 U.S.C. § 512, we will: " Act expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the Content that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity; OC3 Networks AUP: OC3 Networks prohibits sites engaged in: ? Illegal activities including but not limited to storing and/or distributing illegal copies of copyrighted software, warez sites, violations of copyrights and trademarks, violations of U.S. laws, selling and/or distributing illegal contraband. Should a policy violation occur, OC3 Networks reserves the right to terminate the account without notice and without any refunds. The policy violating client will be held responsible for any damages to OC3 Networks, including but not limited to, OC3 Networks's system, servers, connectivity, reputation, business, service, network, operations, or equipment __________________ QuadraNET - ICQ:2222 15312 - milan [nosp@m] QuadraNET.com 24/7 "REALLY ON-SITE" Support - Completely Premium Network Public & Private Network, Remote Reboot, Private VLANs 99.99% Guaranteed Network Uptime / BGP4 Multihomed 24/7 LIVE CHAT, Phone and Ticket Support 1-888-5-QUADRA

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,728	Milan, We've always enforced our AUP as I am sure every other host does. Responding to DMCA complaints with removal of specific content isn't enough of a measure to affect the situation at hand with tube sites. Refusing to host sites with a preponderance of known stolen video content that you'll never receive a DMCA notices on, that's our choice. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 69 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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crazies Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Swamp -~- Goooo Gators!!! 2006-2007 BB and 1996, 2007 & 2009 FB National Champs X 5!!! Posts: 1,491	Milan just didn't have the balls to announce it and stand up for whats right. Go away Milan and find another thread to jack or just keep hiding behind your AUP and DMCAs! __________________ Send us your Mature traffic and let us convert it for you! CraziesCash Converts

04-10-2008, 06:55 PM	#82
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	The hard thing as a tube owner is everyone's personal definition of 'legal'. Some people just blanket claim all tubes are illegal and evil, some go as far as if you respond to DMCA's then its legal ... the ground seems to shift on this one. I host our tube with mojohost, and while we are pretty sure we aren't the type of tube they are talking about, when a company takes an anti-tube stand ... the good tend to be lumped in with the bad. Also to address another point regarding so many tubes selling. Yep many are, but you have to be a bloody idiot to allow 20 min videos and still expect to make lots of money. Tubes can produce good profitable traffic just like tgps, mgps, etc etc, but you gotta use some common sense. Also, with the sheer number of sponsors contacting us wanting to get their promo content and clips on our tube ... there is no reason you would ever need to use stolen content or turn a blind eye to it .... it just doesn't make sense. __________________ IW Skype : blance8888 Icq : 15567120

04-10-2008, 07:07 PM	#85
madfuck Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,030	thx for the info.... __________________ http://thepiratebay.se/

04-11-2008, 10:50 AM	#87
Matiz Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ICQ:342419601 Posts: 1,740	great move __________________ ...

04-11-2008, 02:26 PM	#90
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	milan, are you already doing this? is webair? is prohosters? Have you read the AUPs of the hosting companies that host the tubes? It's just verbiage in most cases because we all know hosts make exceptions or look the other way. What I get from this is that Brad / MojoHost isn't looking the other way and doesn't want to be the host you use if you plan on running an illegal tube site. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-11-2008, 03:59 PM	#93
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	good, but 60 days? Give them 1 week max __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

04-12-2008, 10:58 AM	#95
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,728	Bump for the weekend warriors Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 69 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

04-12-2008, 11:20 AM	#96
Chio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ: 39-183769 Posts: 8,002	Congrats on a bold move. Hopefully others will follow. __________________ I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7! RIP Texas Dreams Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

10-05-2009, 07:08 AM	#97
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,323	Congrats! __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

10-05-2009, 07:31 AM	#98
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,046	old bumpage __________________ Hardlinks and blog posts available on a popular blog with DR 43 and over 3000 referring domains. gfynicky @ gmail.com

10-05-2009, 07:40 AM	#100
Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	brilliant move, standing up for what you believe in and actually acting upon it! mad props!